Alpine Skiing discussion - no spoilers please

SoxFanInCali

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Funny how they're hedging their bets, saying the medal positions aren't expected to change now, but they certainly aren't calling it yet.
 

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Except they’re interviewing Vonn asking about “this medal” as if it’s already been awarded to her. It’s weird.
 

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Funny how they're hedging their bets, saying the medal positions aren't expected to change now, but they certainly aren't calling it yet.
Yes, obviously this time thry have time in the schedule to kill. I they had something they thought would have gotten better ratings at 10PM, they would have switched to it
 

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That was a bit of a strange race. Weirather skied pretty flawlessly, so when Goggia made those errors on the top section and had the red light, I didn't think she would even hit the front - but she did, by a large margin. Even then, I thought if Vonn avoided any major errors (which she did), she would likely overtake Goggia. Vonn looked good and much cleaner than Goggia to the naked eye on the top section but kept bleeding time somehow. Maybe the Italians just nailed the line and the had the skis running better than anyone else, because Nadia Fanchini was skiing with the green light midway through the race with bib 16 when she crashed out.
 

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That was a bit of a strange race. Weirather skied pretty flawlessly, so when Goggia made those errors on the top section and had the red light, I didn't think she would even hit the front - but she did, by a large margin. Even then, I thought if Vonn avoided any major errors (which she did), she would likely overtake Goggia. Vonn looked good and much cleaner than Goggia to the naked eye on the top section but kept bleeding time somehow. Maybe the Italians just nailed the line and the had the skis running better than anyone else, because Nadia Fanchini was skiing with the green light midway through the race with bib 16 when she crashed out.
At one point late in the coverage, they shows about a 1000 (?) yard stretch, where Goggia was like a straight line, and Vonn was more line a Sine wave, oscillating back and forth across the line, but never getting it right.
 

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Interesting, thanks. Surprising that after three practice runs and despite no major errors, Vonn couldn't get the line right. Maybe she was just a fraction late on some turns and had to make small adjustments at a level that wasn't really noticeable but was enough to affect the time.
 

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This is not necessarily directed at you, but people who don’t know ski racing criticizing Bode (which I’ve seen a lot of) sound ridiculous.

A ton of the ACTUAL racers have been bugging him for tips about line and tactics. His knowledge of ski racing is held in the highest regard everywhere that matters.

As someone who raced (against Bode, actually), his commentary is light years ahead of what we typically get in the olympics. The stuff he’s picking up in real time is pretty remarkable.
Where/when did you race?
 

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This is not necessarily directed at you, but people who don’t know ski racing criticizing Bode (which I’ve seen a lot of) sound ridiculous.

A ton of the ACTUAL racers have been bugging him for tips about line and tactics. His knowledge of ski racing is held in the highest regard everywhere that matters.

As someone who raced (against Bode, actually), his commentary is light years ahead of what we typically get in the olympics. The stuff he’s picking up in real time is pretty remarkable.
I'm with you - I think he's been great. Deadspin shit on him when the Super G thing happened and people seem to like ripping on him, but I think he's been really good, and clearly more insightful than what we've had in the past. The thing with the plow line at the bottom of the course yesterday is a good example - apparently he noticed it and radioed up to get them to sort of fix it, and it still took out the first woman down the course. Could've been worse if no one had said anything.
 

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Uh, wow, now Deadspin is REALLY shitting on him. I don't get why people want him to be super emotional and dramatic? He's the analyst, not the play-by-play (or whatever you'd call it for skiing). There's only so many things you can comment on with a ski run, so of course he's gonna repeat himself sometimes. Oh well, guess I might be in the minority here.
 

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Uh, wow, now Deadspin is REALLY shitting on him. I don't get why people want him to be super emotional and dramatic? He's the analyst, not the play-by-play (or whatever you'd call it for skiing). There's only so many things you can comment on with a ski run, so of course he's gonna repeat himself sometimes. Oh well, guess I might be in the minority here.
I'm with you. He's making the telecast more enjoyable and significantly more informative. Deadspin is really not the best barometer, they usually just go for the hottest take more than sincere analysis.
 

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One thing from Bode that I would dispute: he said that the course didn't have "teeth," but it sure seemed to bite a lot of women at that one jump. It took out something like five potential medal contenders (including two that were green on Goggia or close to it) from falls or skiing out.
 

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One thing from Bode that I would dispute: he said that the course didn't have "teeth," but it sure seemed to bite a lot of women at that one jump. It took out something like five potential medal contenders (including two that were green on Goggia or close to it) from falls or skiing out.
What Bode was talking about was the hill itself. It’s just not very steep, and not very icy.

And even the set wasn’t super tricky. Those were mainly errors of aggression. Those girls were trying to cut off line, mostly because they aren’t great gliders, and as Bode said repeatedly, needed to come off the top with a lead. In the Olympics, with no benefit to missing the podium, there’s no reason not to take a super aggressive line. In a World Cup race, that would not happen.
 

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Yikes, Vonn looked super shaky and then off the course. Gold for Gisin, Silver for Shiffrin.
 

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Yikes, Vonn looked super shaky and then off the course. Gold for .
That was her first slalom in 5 years. No complaints here.. She's still going out on top or close to it as one of the best downhillers in the world; impressive at her age.
 

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Minor nitpick: Vonn hasn't raced a stand-alone World Cup slalom in five years but she has raced slalom in combined races more recently, including last month in Lenzerheide. But your overall point stands.
 

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From what I read, Ledecka was the hot favourite for the Snowboard Parallel Slalom, and the real surprise was the Super G where she was ranked 43rd in the world. Amazing run that was, from way down in the start order too!