All-NBA teams: IT makes the 2nd team

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The All-NBA teams were announced Thursday, with James Harden leading the way as a unanimous first-team selection. He was joined on the first team by by LeBron James, who tied an NBA record with his 11th All-NBA selection, Russell Westbrook, Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis.

The second team consisted of Giannis Antetokounmpo, Rudy Gobert, Isaiah Thomas, Stephen Curry and Durant.

Jimmy Butler, Draymond Green, DeMar DeRozan, John Wall and DeAndre Jordan made the third team.
Paul George didn't make the team and can't get the supermax offer from the Pacers.
 

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So does this mean Boston's potential offer can be the same dollar amount as Utah's?
 

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There are about 5 players that didn't make 3rd team that would have been at least 2nd team in 1997. The league is stacked.
 

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So does this mean Boston's potential offer can be the same dollar amount as Utah's?
No. They can offer slightly more per year.

More significantly, the Jazz can offer a 5-year deal; other teams can only offer 4. That's not a relevant consideration for the biggest stars, but it might be a big deal for a guy like Hayward, who's hardly assured of being a max-money guy at age 31.
 

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So does this mean Boston's potential offer can be the same dollar amount as Utah's?
No because Utah can offer higher annual raises and a guaranteed fifth year. However, there is a catch. Hayward would probably prefer a four-year deal with an opt-out after the third. That would allow him to sign a new contract as a 10-year vet when he'd qualify for 35% of the cap instead of 30%. In other words, without the "Super Max" in play, he has little financial incentive to stay with Utah because it is to his advantage to re-enter the market before the fifth year would ever come into play.
 
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There are about 5 players that didn't make 3rd team that would have been at least 2nd team in 1997. The league is stacked.
Curious why you picked that year, did you actually look at the picks from that year or just subtract 20 years from now to make a general point? Because 1997 was loaded, there are at least 8 easy Hall of Famers here and probably more like 10:

1996-97

FIRST TEAM

F: Grant Hill
F: Karl Malone
C: Hakeem Olajuwon
G: Michael Jordan
G: Tim Hardaway

SECOND TEAM

F: Scottie Pippen
F: Glen Rice
C: Patrick Ewing
G: Gary Payton
G: Mitch Richmond

THIRD TEAM

F: Vin Baker
F: Anthony Mason
C: Shaquille O'Neal
G: Anfernee Hardaway
G: John Stockton
 

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Curious why you picked that year, did you actually look at the picks from that year or just subtract 20 years from now to make a general point? Because 1997 was loaded, there are at least 8 easy Hall of Famers here and probably more like 10:

1996-97

FIRST TEAM

F: Grant Hill
F: Karl Malone
C: Hakeem Olajuwon
G: Michael Jordan
G: Tim Hardaway

SECOND TEAM

F: Scottie Pippen
F: Glen Rice
C: Patrick Ewing
G: Gary Payton
G: Mitch Richmond

THIRD TEAM

F: Vin Baker
F: Anthony Mason
C: Shaquille O'Neal
G: Anfernee Hardaway
G: John Stockton
Some of those were players on the downside of their career and there was no young players to push them ( Kobe-Duncan-KG hadn't arrived yet).

Townes didn't sniff All NBA and he blows away Ewing, Baker, and Mason from that year.
 

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Townes didn't sniff All NBA and he blows away Ewing, Baker, and Mason from that year.
It's pretty silly to compare, honestly. The defensive rules have changed so much in the interim that it is a pretty different game now. If the level of physical defense allowed then was allowed now, offensive numbers wouldn't look nearly as impressive.