Eh. If they want their best shot at Mookie for the long run, they take their medicine this year and make a Godfather offer to him next year. They might be more inclined to keep him around for the year if they know they have no shot at him, but that's an extra $27M out of pocket. That's a lot of tickets.
The way the MLB has set things up, future investigations will only come if the violation was post 2018. That's why Cora/Red Sox are being investigated after The Athletic article and not the Yankees who were also using the replay room before but supposedly not after 2018.
After the 9/15/17 memo. That was what really set Manfred off. He sent a memo and the Astros ignored it, presumably starting the very next day and then into the postseason.
I believe this is correct. Both Sox and NYY were disciplined (lightly) for the apple watch/video rooms, and the league was notified that going forward, hammer comes down. Cora kept rolling the dice, perhaps the Yankees too, but perhaps they took the 2018 warning, and just went back to plain old sign stealing....
If they do—and I’m not convinced of that—it would have happened regardless of Cora. This isolated move won’t negatively affect attendance by 3 people.
AJ Hincha, goin' extinct-cha
Perish the thought! The only good thing about the Bobby V year was the Punto Trade.Bobby Valentine coming in for the bridge year?
The reason I asked is that it seems many here are blurring lines here between the two things Cora has been associated with.
This needs some backup sourcing. I think this entire situation is way overblown personally, but where do you see that most (if not all) teams were using replay room to steal signs?
It was a hot take. This whole thing has me all conflicted.
The Athletic article made clear that the Yankees definitely were, and then vaguely said that "other teams" were doing the same. Then there was an SI article (here) that said the following: "Two sources familiar with the investigation, which lasted three months and included more than 70,000 e-mails and 60 interviews, said various Astros personnel told MLB investigators about eight other teams who used technology to steal signs in 2017 or 2018–such was the culture of the time."
I feel like we’ll eventually find out what he was up to when the full Red Sox report comes out. Even if what he did in Boston wasn’t as bad as what was going on in Houston, it really does make sense for the Sox and Cora to part ways now. But that doesn’t make it sting any less. A very disappointing to what seemed like a very promising managerial career here.
I feel better about Manfred than Goodell. I think we're all a little bit shellshocked from the NFL's lack of good faith and transparency in these situations and are applying it to this situation.
Who cares? There’s no cap issues like AB with the Patriots and it won’t impact anything on or off the field.
Well, that's the thing, though, isn't it? I mean, of course there will always be cheating in baseball. By people with enough shame to actually try to hide it. And the game survives because people don't realize it's happening. But they had to go and bang on trash cans in an era where billions of people can watch all the video clips and share em on social media, shining a big bright spotlight on it.
this is funny since I think at least one of the conspiracy theories - MLB overcompensating for going too light on steroids, MLB getting huge pressure from casinos to bring down the hammer - is true
didn't one of the Red Sox players who came forward to Rosenthal say we had the monitors in our pockets?
I'm sure a good chunk of the investigation would be seeing if this occurred in 2018 postseason.
For me, the bottom line is that baseball has a more sane attitude about minor acts of cheating (than football).
Honestly it doesn't seem all that nuanced that using your eyeballs (video) and brain (computer) is 100% completely legitimate but using a video feed gets people shot into the sun. How much more effective is one method than the other really?
In addition to this we had Logan Morrison, who has been with 7 organizations and probably knows someone on almost every team, saying today that many teams use the replay room, specifically naming the sox yankees astros and dodgers that he had first hand accounts from. Plus vague inferences to the Brewers as well I believe. Maybe almost every team was too strong, but there's no way it's just 2 teams
I agree with this and the Morrison Tweets/comments are pretty damning if true. That said, I have to think Manfred and company want this story to be done with ASAP. Not saying this happened because, as we have seen, professional organizations are constantly screwing up basic damage control situations but you would have to think that MLB ID'd the Astros and Red Sox as the worst offenders. As such, anything else that comes out is going to be more along the lines of Morrison anecdotes and not with definitive proof.
Did he really implicate the Brewers? They just signed him to a non-roster invite deal. Even if incredibly implicit, that's awkward as hell.
This seems like a given to me since he and Bloom are familiar with each other and he is highly regarded.
