ALDS Gamethread

MakMan44

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I'm actually pretty torn here. I want KC to win, but that means no more chances for Mike Trout to do something awesome in the postseason. 
 

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Remagellan said:
It will be interesting to see how he handles an early exit. It's ridiculous that he'll get any flak for having three bad games after the season he had
 
It'll be time to see if we can get him for Middlebrooks.
 

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fineyoungarm said:
The prosepect of Showalter trying to out-manage Yost is so exciting I have angina
 
Mindful of the SNL parody of the Dukakis-Bush debate
 

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Remagellan said:
Go Royals. Even though I hate BG James.
Sick of every playoff team not from KC or DC, so BGJ is really the best of a bunch of bad choices. KC deserves it too. They hadn't even MADE the playoffs for almost my entire life.
 

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And, look, I understand he pitched well.  And I'm not some idiot who thinks won-lost record is the measure of a pitcher.  But David Price, bitchy Cy Young winner and self-appointed defender of the game of baseball is still winless in postseason play.
 

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That was the most intense sweep I've ever seen.  Nail-biter into the 8th blown open late, huge 8th inning rally, pitcher's duel with late rally by losing team.  Nice baseball.
 

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Rough Carrigan said:
And, look, I understand he pitched well. And I'm not some idiot who thinks won-lost record is the measure of a pitcher. But David Price, bitchy Cy Young winner and self-appointed defender of the game of baseball is still winless in postseason play.
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fineyoungarm said:
Dammit, now we'll have to throw in Nava to get Trout.
Can we get someone to feed Peter Gammons the info that there's nothing in the world that Will Middlebrooks likes more than getting signals, lots of signals, from his manager?
 
2 days later, Mike Scioscia:  "We've gotta have this guy!"
 

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85 walks led the American league?!  Really.  Wow.  That's amazing that there wasn't some starter with decent innings and bad control to get over 85 walks.  Christ, guys like Ryan and Feller used to do that before the All Star break.
 

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Rough Carrigan said:
85 walks led the American league?!  Really.  Wow.  That's amazing that there wasn't some starter with decent innings and bad control to get over 85 walks.  Christ, guys like Ryan and Feller used to do that before the All Star break.
As they were pitching complete games
 

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Rough Carrigan said:
85 walks led the American league?!  Really.  Wow.  That's amazing that there wasn't some starter with decent innings and bad control to get over 85 walks.  Christ, guys like Ryan and Feller used to do that before the All Star break.
 
Nolan Ryan was the Nolan Ryan (of strikeouts) of walks. In 1974, there were five starters in the AL with more than 100 BBs. Ryan had 202, 27% more than the next guy. 
 

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kieckeredinthehead said:
 
Nolan Ryan was the Nolan Ryan (of strikeouts) of walks. In 1974, there were five starters in the AL with more than 100 BBs. Ryan had 202, 27% more than the next guy. 
Most over-rated HOF starter in the history of the game.
 

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kieckeredinthehead said:
 
Nolan Ryan was the Nolan Ryan (of strikeouts) of walks. In 1974, there were five starters in the AL with more than 100 BBs. Ryan had 202, 27% more than the next guy. 
 
Indeed. I remember reading an article a few years back estimating his average pitch count around that time was about 160-180 per game
 

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kieckeredinthehead said:
 
Nolan Ryan was the Nolan Ryan (of strikeouts) of walks. In 1974, there were five starters in the AL with more than 100 BBs. Ryan had 202, 27% more than the next guy. 
That's seriously mind blowing.  I didn't know the real number.
 
I think what surprises me is the lack of some starter with a 4.5bb/9ip rate and 200 innings pitched.  Ryan must've averaged 6+ but we don't have any starter getting near 200 ip with a measly rate of 4.5/9.  Are pitchers showing better control than ever?  Have they responded to the emphasis on OBP by throwing strikes?
 

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Rough Carrigan said:
That's seriously mind blowing.  I didn't know the real number.
 
I think what surprises me is the lack of some starter with a 4.5bb/9ip rate and 200 innings pitched.  Ryan must've averaged 6+ but we don't have any starter getting near 200 ip with a measly rate of 4.5/9.  Are pitchers showing better control than ever?  Have they responded to the emphasis on OBP by throwing strikes?
 
Batters are less afraid of striking out, as well
 

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E5 Yaz said:
 
Batters are less afraid of striking out, as well
 
That was my theory as to why pitchers are dominating. Striking out is no longer emasculating. A wider strike zone helps too.