ALCS: Yankees vs Astros (Non-Yankees Fan Version)

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? don't think the Astros ever won the WS before
Shiiiiit. Yep. Good call. I got hyped in research, you know me. Somehow forgot Chicago swept their asses in 2005. Point stands though: With a pennant win tonight this puts them in select company with few others to do so in multiple leagues.

I adore Jose Altuve.
How can you not? Like his style off the field, and probably the second best position player in the game today after Trout. Plus, I love the little guy aspect. Finding someone beyond Pedey who succeeds at my height always rings close to home.
 

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Yankees continued their season-long trend of underperforming their pythag (although just slightly in this case). They outscored the Astros 22-20 in the series.
 

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You just know Sports Illustrated is salivating at the chance to rerun the cover
 

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Congrats, man! My first born ushered in the Booby V era, so there you go!
This is a wonderful combination of sweet and insulting.
Happy YED, y'all. The nice thing is that I don't care who wins the WS, just that it be well-played, which I expect it will be.
Thank you both.

And sorry for the insulting portion.lol It comes from being tortured and taunted growing up during the 90’s-00’s in a town that was split Sox/Yanks fans. You develop a bit of a chip (to say the least).
Since then I have met a handful of Yankees fans that don’t meet the stereotypes and to them (you guys) I’ll admit there is now a bit of empathy...but still...it’s hard not to be pleased.
Should be exciting (anxiety inducing) for the near future with both these teams expected to be contenders.
 

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Is it just me, or is Fox deliberately avoiding the word "pennant"?
Well, when Springer caught Bird's fly for the final out, Buck said "The Houston Astros win the pennant" ... so maybe they didn't feel the need to repeat it
 

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What, like an hour or two?
You're not going to believe it, even closer.....

Wouldn't it be awesome if Bob Kravitz got a tip from Eric Mangini that the Verlander fax arrived at MLB at 12:00:02 a.m. and Joe Girardi filed a complaint challenging the ALCS for an illegal roster, and Manfred hired Exponent to inspect the fax machine timeclock.

Or something like that if baseball were football.
 

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Thank you both.

And sorry for the insulting portion.lol It comes from being tortured and taunted growing up during the 90’s-00’s in a town that was split Sox/Yanks fans. You develop a bit of a chip (to say the least).
Since then I have met a handful of Yankees fans that don’t meet the stereotypes and to them (you guys) I’ll admit there is now a bit of empathy...but still...it’s hard not to be pleased.
Should be exciting (anxiety inducing) for the near future with both these teams expected to be contenders.
Hey, many good days to come. My first (and only) born woke up about 15 minutes ago and asked if the Yankees lost... Only thing he said... I said yes, they're done until next April... He said, I'm happy Dad and then fell asleep. You'll enjoy being a dad.
 

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Alex Cora viajará a Boston a ser nombrado dirigente de los Medias Rojas una vez los Astros completen su participación en postemporada.
 

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Thank you both.

And sorry for the insulting portion.lol It comes from being tortured and taunted growing up during the 90’s-00’s in a town that was split Sox/Yanks fans. You develop a bit of a chip (to say the least).
Since then I have met a handful of Yankees fans that don’t meet the stereotypes and to them (you guys) I’ll admit there is now a bit of empathy...but still...it’s hard not to be pleased.
Should be exciting (anxiety inducing) for the near future with both these teams expected to be contenders.
I think people who grow up deep in Red Sox territory can't really appreciate quite as well the way the battles were on the front lines. My teacher took a vote in 1978 before the Bucky Dent game and my class was divided 12/12. Which side you sat on the school bus depended on whether you were Red Sox or Yankees. I remember begging my dad to let me stay home the morning after game 7 in 1975 because I knew the Yankees fans would be ruthless as though they were Reds fans. I hate those fucking Yankees.
 

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Hey, many good days to come. My first (and only) born woke up about 15 minutes ago and asked if the Yankees lost... Only thing he said... I said yes, they're done until next April... He said, I'm happy Dad and then fell asleep. You'll enjoy being a dad.
My daughter was a little over a year old in '07 and I was going to get her out of bed and wake her up to watch the 9th inning of Game 4 against the Rockies so she could always say she saw the Red Sox win a World Series. My wife shot down that idea very quickly. In '13 I did wake up my then 7 year old daughter to watch the last out against the Cardinals. She was a little cranky for the first out, but after Koji struck out Carpenter she had the biggest smile on her face.
 
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As pleasurable as it was to watch the Yankees choke away the series after so many jumped on their bandwagon right after Game 5, I'm very happy for the Astros and their fans. How fantastic would it be for them to win their first WS, and just 2 months after Harvey. I really hope it happens.

Am I the only one saddened that never again will players be able to high-five fans on victory laps up and down the foul lines?
 

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After game 5 I was SO pissed off. Living here in NY, and having to deal with every knucklehead crawling out of their holes wearing Yankees gear. Starting tommorrow, not going to see many of those. THANK GAWD Happy YED!!
 

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My daughter was a little over a year old in '07 and I was going to get her out of bed and wake her up to watch the 9th inning of Game 4 against the Rockies so she could always say she saw the Red Sox win a World Series. My wife shot down that idea very quickly. In '13 I did wake up my then 7 year old daughter to watch the last out against the Cardinals. She was a little cranky for the first out, but after Koji struck out Carpenter she had the biggest smile on her face.
My dad fought my mom hard to get me up for extras in game 6, 1986... wow... by game 7, he was like oh just go to bed! even with a 3-run lead... lol.
 

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My daughter was a little over a year old in '07 and I was going to get her out of bed and wake her up to watch the 9th inning of Game 4 against the Rockies so she could always say she saw the Red Sox win a World Series. My wife shot down that idea very quickly. In '13 I did wake up my then 7 year old daughter to watch the last out against the Cardinals. She was a little cranky for the first out, but after Koji struck out Carpenter she had the biggest smile on her face.
Awesome. I had my 6 year old son in my lap in 2004 when Eyechart squeezed the last out. He has since watched two more endings.
 

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I gthink people who grow up deep in Red Sox territory can't really appreciate quite as well the way the battles were on the front lines.
Yankee elimination days and moments like the 04 ALCS are like wet dreams for those of us living in Connecticut
Front lines indeed.
 

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The reaction to the loss seems fairly muted - even the NYC tabloids are going easy on the Yankees today. I wonder if the Boston sports media and fans would be as forgiving if the Sox had been in this same situation - resurgent offense, up 3-2 and needing to win just one of two games to go to the Series - and dropped both games.
 

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The reaction to the loss seems fairly muted - even the NYC tabloids are going easy on the Yankees today. I wonder if the Boston sports media and fans would be as forgiving if the Sox had been in this same situation - resurgent offense, up 3-2 and needing to win just one of two games to go to the Series - and dropped both games.
I think the reason for this is that they never expected to be here and they are super excited for the future. At least that is impacting how I am feeling about the loss.
 

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I think people who grow up deep in Red Sox territory can't really appreciate quite as well the way the battles were on the front lines. My teacher took a vote in 1978 before the Bucky Dent game and my class was divided 12/12. Which side you sat on the school bus depended on whether you were Red Sox or Yankees. I remember begging my dad to let me stay home the morning after game 7 in 1975 because I knew the Yankees fans would be ruthless as though they were Reds fans. I hate those fucking Yankees.
Being a life long Massachusetts resident, growing up in the 1970's I really had no clue about the Red Sox/MFY rivalry as in the early 1970's, the MFY's stunk on ice. I remember that 4 game series in 1975 at Shea when the Red Sox took 3 of 4 and buried the MFY's that year how happy my Dad was, I really had no clue.

Then the brawl in 1976 and the 1978 pennant race; I was in college in the fall of 1978 and I watched the game in the student lounge, it was about 50/50 RS/MFY fans as a lot of the students at the school I attended were from CT, NY and NJ. After they won, they were relentless ballbreakers.

Welcome to the rivalry son.
 

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The reaction to the loss seems fairly muted - even the NYC tabloids are going easy on the Yankees today. I wonder if the Boston sports media and fans would be as forgiving if the Sox had been in this same situation - resurgent offense, up 3-2 and needing to win just one of two games to go to the Series - and dropped both games.
The answer for the Boston media is obvious: no.

And I don't believe we'd be very charitable here as a group if the Houston-Boston series played out the same way and we were sunk, as the Yankees were, by an inability to hit in Houston.

For 2017 at least the two best teams wire to wire earned a place in the WS. That's a nice salve that a certain subsection of the fan base and media contingent are going to blow past and refuse to accept.
 

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For 2017 at least the two best teams wire to wire earned a place in the WS. That's a nice salve that a certain subsection of the fan base and media contingent are going to blow past and refuse to accept.
This is my feeling, too. The best teams are in the World Series. I'll be rooting for Houston to beat the Dodgers, and their $241M payroll.
 

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The answer for the Boston media is obvious: no.

And I don't believe we'd be very charitable here as a group if the Houston-Boston series played out the same way and we were sunk, as the Yankees were, by an inability to hit in Houston.

For 2017 at least the two best teams wire to wire earned a place in the WS. That's a nice salve that a certain subsection of the fan base and media contingent are going to blow past and refuse to accept.
Boston is in a different place than the Yankees though. Over the past two years Boston has gone out an acquired two ace quality pitchers. Stuff like that leads to different expectations. The Yankees biggest offseason acquisition was the corpse of Matt Holliday. When you make moves like the Red Sox did the past offseason it is a different mindset.
 

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Boston is in a different place than the Yankees though. Over the past two years Boston has gone out an acquired two ace quality pitchers. Stuff like that leads to different expectations. The Yankees biggest offseason acquisition was the corpse of Matt Holliday. When you make moves like the Red Sox did the past offseason it is a different mindset.
Didn't they also pay a FA closer the biggest contract for a reliever ever?
 

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Didn't they also pay a FA closer the biggest contract for a reliever ever?
Yeah, good point. It just didn’t feel like an acquisition, more like we just loaned him out.

I still think that Yankee fans and Red Sox fans had a completely different mindset about this season, which would explain why some posters here said Red Sox fans would have taken this loss harder.
 

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Are the Dodgers hated as much as the Yankees for blowing way beyond the payroll ceiling? They are $46M past the runnerup Yankees, just for the 25-man, $241M to $196M.
I realize LA's strength is all the young players they have accumulated but I don't see the same criticism of LA that the Yankees endured for 20 years.
 
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I think people who grow up deep in Red Sox territory can't really appreciate quite as well the way the battles were on the front lines. My teacher took a vote in 1978 before the Bucky Dent game and my class was divided 12/12. Which side you sat on the school bus depended on whether you were Red Sox or Yankees. I remember begging my dad to let me stay home the morning after game 7 in 1975 because I knew the Yankees fans would be ruthless as though they were Reds fans. I hate those fucking Yankees.
I grew up in Central CT, truly the front line. Used to have these "hat bets" on occasion when they played each other, whereby the loser of the bet would have to wear the winning team's hat for a day. After 3 of these bets, all of which I won, I quit. Because I knew eventually I'd lose, and just the thought of me having to wear a MFY hat made me literally sick.
 

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I realize LA's strength is all the young players they have accumulated but I don't see the same criticism of LA that the Yankees endured for 20 years.
Too early for the criticism, I think. They haven't won a championship with that advantage yet. It may come if they do. I think it certainly will if they win a few.

Edit: That said, it probably won't reach the heights of Yankees vitriol. I don't think fans on the west coast care about baseball enough to drive it. Which is kind of a shame for the Dodgers really. The vitriol comes because fans really care. I think that energy elevates everything, in ways both good and bad.
 

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This is truly something coming from a Yankees fan. :)
No, I am asking why the Dodgers haven't taken the same kind of hit as the Yankees take for outspending everyone. Also, the Yankees are going under next year's cap. That is the owner's main priority this offseason. The Yankees no longer believe in buying top stars heading to the back side of their careers.