AFC playoff chase 2021
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Have to go back and check the DVR, but pretty sure the Pats beat Buffalo and Tenn recently. lololol.
Doesn't look like a guy who just blew out his knee.
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Where did you read he tore his ACL? I saw the play. Burrow walked to sidelines on his own. If needed he would have probably come back into game. If you tear your AClL you're not walking off the field
I said that this weekend in the Miami thread. Their wins over the last 7 games were against some of the worst QBs in NFL history.
And then they met a real team.
If I have this right, losing next week almost guarantees a trip to Buffalo or KC. A win would secure the 5th seed (unless Buffalo loses) which likely means a trip to Cincy followed by a trip to Tennessee. That wouldn’t be the worst path, they can beat both those teams. And that would also mean Buffalo plays KC so you only have to go through one of those teams.
Not true. Brady walked off the field after he tore his ACL and I think Flacco actually played a few more downs after tearing his. I'm not saying it's a good idea but being able to walk does not rule out a torn ACL
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Yes, we are completely aligned. Just wait until the third best CB falls to them in the 2022 draft! Six-to-eight months of unbridled ecstasy!
They are dancing like they’re only 112 miles from the Lucas Oil banner raising dome
Cincy has an interesting decision next week about whether to rest their starters. Technically they're still alive for the #1 seed, if KC and Tenn both lose. But do they really go all out for probably no major change in seeding? It's already a longer season than anyone is used to and an extra week off for most folks could really pay off.
But I don’t think Cleveland has anything to play for either - pretty sure they are eliminated. So even if Cincy tanks it doesn’t even guarantee a loss.
I walked off the field after both ACLs and I’m not a world class athlete. Almost every NFL guy with a torn ACL walks off the field unless they also broke a bone or tore a hamstring or something.
The more I think about it the more I think every team is going to play to win next week. You want to maximize your seed and the possibility of home games. Teams may rest some banged up players (e.g., the Pats may sit Harris). But I don’t think you’re going to see Burrow or Mac or Josh Allen etc. in street clothes
In the ESPN machine if everybody (TN, KC, CIN, NE, BUF, INDY) wins it's (5) NE @ (4) Buffalo
If everybody wins except Buffalo loses it is (6) Buffalo @ (3) NE if Chargers win, but Indy @ NE if Raiders win.
An MCL bucket tear along with an ACL tear will render one immobile. With an ACL tear you can walk forward. It is lateral movement that is an issue.
1 TENN - 11-5 95% they beat Hou
2 KC 98% they beat den 11-5
3 Ciny 60% they beat cle 10-6
4 buff 99% they beat nyj 10-6
5 ne 51% they beat mia 10-6
6 indy 99.5 they beat jax 9-7
7 lac/lv 9-7 i like vegas to win over LAC
IF ne wins
here are the matchups
1 Tenn -bye
7 indy @ 2 kc
6 vegas @ 3 ciny/buff
5 ne @ 4 buff/ciny
if ne loses
1 tenn - bye
7 vegas/lac @ kc
6 ne @ 3 ciny/buff
5 indy @ 4 buff/ciny
2 KC 98% they beat den 11-5
3 Ciny 60% they beat cle 10-6
4 buff 99% they beat nyj 10-6
5 ne 51% they beat mia 10-6
6 indy 99.5 they beat jax 9-7
7 lac/lv 9-7 i like vegas to win over LAC
IF ne wins
here are the matchups
1 Tenn -bye
7 indy @ 2 kc
6 vegas @ 3 ciny/buff
5 ne @ 4 buff/ciny
if ne loses
1 tenn - bye
7 vegas/lac @ kc
6 ne @ 3 ciny/buff
5 indy @ 4 buff/ciny
Unless I'm missing something, unless Cincy loses, if Pats win they likely get Bills as the 4/5 game.
May it be rainy with 50 mph winds if we go to Buffalo. I'm trying to think of what it takes for a wild card team to get a home game.
Obviously if all 3 wild card teams win one will host in the second round. An all wild cad conference final would also. I feel like there's one more sceario
Obviously if all 3 wild card teams win one will host in the second round. An all wild cad conference final would also. I feel like there's one more sceario
The Patriots could also decide to sit starters in a game where the opposition has nothing to play for and the Patriots could lose and fall as far as 7th and probably go to KC for their troubles.
Most likely scenario if the Pats lost would have them being... on to Cincinnati.
Most likely scenario if the Pats lost would have them being... on to Cincinnati.
Cincinnati's offense is a NIGHTMARE match up for the Patriots, IMO. So many weapons, esp through the air. Tougher than KC. The hope, I guess, is BB being able to confuse Burrow? I'd almost rather play KC.
I hate playing teams with mobile QBs--that's KC and Buffalo. But, gonna have to beat good teams sooner or later.
LOL, I'd be more concerned about playing the Miami Dolphins's children. FFS.
If the Pats can't beat the Bengals, I'll dig a big hole and stand next to it and you can shoot me.
Hmm, I'd rather play at Cinci than at Buffalo or KC. I'd also rather play KC than Buffalo. The Bills are a lousy matchup for the Pats, unless there are gale winds.
The Bills inconsistency is about more than the record. They won today with Allen throwing 3 INTs and no TDs. After he looked like the best QB in the league last week. The Bills team that showed up for game two against the Pats did not resemble in tthe least the team from game one.
On their good days, they are probably the most complete team in the AFC. But I'm honestly unsure what game 3 would look like.
u have to defend ciny like denver did denver played a pefect game aga them ex for 1 busted conv
Not many people have Vic Fangio's personnel or his defensive wizardry, but obviously BB and the Pats are one of them. As a Bengals fan, I'd rather face the Colts as great an offensive mind as Reich is.
PIT/BAL will technically be alive after this week (if PIT wins tomorrow), but only because the Colts "could" lose to the Jags. Tha'ts some purgatory hell to be in.
Week 18 flexed games announced
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Also . For those that were asking how the Pats can get the #1seed?
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Also . For those that were asking how the Pats can get the #1seed?
View: https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/1477865178180067337
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If the Colts lose to the Jags on Sunday afternoon, are the Raiders and Chargers both in with a tie? Victory formation for a full 60 + OT. I want to see that.
The Jags have every incentive to lose, as they drop to #2 in a draft with a win. The Packers-Lions and Colts-Jags games could be something special.
How different is the 1 from the 2 this year? I don’t see any clear cut 1. I was hoping the Jets could trade one of their top 10 picks (SEA could go as low as 12 I think) but don’t see who would want to trade up. Jets need a lot of players.
The Jags PLAYERS don’t have any incentive to lose. They’re playing for their NFL lives and will almost certainly try their hardest out there on the field. Nobody is going to give half effort (intentionally, anyway), or miss a tackle or drop a pass on purpose. For most of that team, they’re borderline NFL players, and they absolutely are trying to play their best to put some good stuff on tape to make an NFL roster next year.
The players anyway will try to win every individual matchup, and win the game. These guys don’t play to lose.
Maybe management/ownership does some roster shenanigans to put a lesser product on the field, but the players sure aren’t going to pack it in.
This. My recollection on end of season NFL games is that generally teams playing spoiler have more motivated players than teams playing for seeding. That may or may not overcome the talent difference.
The Steelers could still get to 9-7-1 so I don't think this works. I'm not sure about the tiebreak gymnastics here, but I beleive the head to head goes out when there's a 3 or more team tie and in that case, the Raiders and Steelers would have better conferrence records so the Chargers would be out.
I can't quite figure out how 8-8 Miami is eliminated, but 8-8 Baltimore still has a hail mary at it despite Miami and Vegas owning a head to head. Must be deep into tie breakers at that point.
Unless Pittsburgh wins out, a Colts loss clinches a playoff spot for the Raiders since they'll have H2H tiebreak against the Indy even at 9-8.
That’s definitely not true.. lots of people tear their ACL worse or MCL after the initial pain wears off because Adrenalin kicks in and they think they’re fine.
Edit: I see this was covered later.. catching up
Pretty sure that's true, and I agree. Seems like the NFL could get a little nervous if the Jags win and this is even possible going into the LV/LAC Sunday night game. I imagine LV and LAC would get a subtle (or not-so-subtle) call from the league office saying that while they'd both make the playoffs with a tie, they'd also get buried in violations for the next 10 years if a tie actually happened.
But if the Steelers lose to the Browns tonight, it becomes a moot point, since the Raiders would then be in with a Colts loss next week (making the NFL unhappy in a different way, since then the Raiders won't have anything to play for next Sunday night--well, perhaps seeding, I didn't check).
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Even if PIT got to 9-7-1 (which we'd know before LAC/LV game anyway), PIT would lose the 3-way tiebreaker (at 9-7-1) to both LAC and LV.
With a 3-way tiebreaker, if there's more than one team from the same division, you first eliminate one of the division teams, then check the head-to-head tiebreaker.
So with PIT/LAC/LV:
- LAC vs. LV: LAC wins on head-to-head (1-0-1)
- LAC vs. PIT: LAC wins on head-to-head (1-0)
--> so LAC is in, and now we check LV vs. PIT to figure out which other teams gets in.
- PIT vs. LV: LV wins on head-to-head (1-0)
--> so LV also gets in (and PIT is out)
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