Adrian Peterson News & Football related discussion

[PedroKsBambino]

Goodell is such an ass.  Whether you agree with Peterson being suspended for the year or not, having to listen to this jackass with zero integrity tell other people how poorly they acted makes me ill.

 
Couldn't agree more.   Goddell is truly spectacular in his hypocrisy and ability to take actions which transform professional athletes who engage in really, really unlikeable actions into improbably sympathetic figures.  He's deep over his head in this job and it's painful to watch.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

"The decision by the NFL to suspend Adrian Peterson is another example of the credibility gap that exists between the agreements they make and the actions they take. Since Adrian's legal matter was adjudicated, the NFL has ignored their obligations and attempted to impose a new and arbitrary disciplinary proceeding," the union said in a statement.
 
"The facts are that Adrian has asked for a meeting with Roger Goodell, the discipline imposed is inconsistent and an NFL executive told Adrian that his time on the Commissioner's list would be considered as time served."
 
The union confirmed they would appeal the decision and would demand a neutral arbitrator oversee said appeal.
 
Additionally, the union called for the Management Council to do whatever was necessary to make changes
 
"We call on the NFL Management Council to show our players and our sponsors leadership by committing to collective bargaining so a fair personal conduct policy can be implemented as quickly as possible."

 
You can't really disagree with this? They're highlighting Goodell's credibility (which is an issue) to drive a false narrative.
 
"The facts are that Adrian has asked for a meeting with Roger Goodell". The other fact is that he blew off a meeting on Friday with Roger Goodell, citing that he didn't have to show up because it wasn't in the bargaining agreement. Essentially, "I don't have to, so I'm not going to". Its petulant and arrogant, and smells of the players union screwing one of their players to benefit the rest of the union. No, Peterson didn't have to go to the meeting, but maybe sticking it up the bosses ass isn't the best idea. I've gone to plenty of meetings I don't have to or want to because it's my career and it's the right thing to do. Tough shit.
 
"The discipline imposed is inconsistent". No, it fucking isn't. It's inconsistent in the sense that the court of law likens beating your children to possessing marijuana (misdemeanor), but the league hasn't ever had a situation like this. Just because the court system is broken and thinks all misdemeanors are the same, doesn't mean the league has to follow the same arbitrary process. This is uncharted water, so it's not inconsistent, and the next person to abuse a 4 year old boy (and admit afterwards that he will continue to) will probably receive a similar punishment. It's amazing that we, as human beings, cry that the world isn't so black and white, yet we want all punishments to be.
 
In short, fuck Adrian Peterson, fuck the players union, and fuck Roger Goodell for being so terrible at his job that he lacks the credibility to discipline a universally accepted asshole of a human being.

 

[TSC]

It's pretty amazing that the general consensus is that Roger Goodell is the bad guy, when he's going up against an unrepentant child-abuser. 
 
This is the guy the NFL wants as the face of the league. 

 

[glennhoffmania]

 
You can't really disagree with this? They're highlighting Goodell's credibility (which is an issue) to drive a false narrative.
 
"The facts are that Adrian has asked for a meeting with Roger Goodell". The other fact is that he blew off a meeting on Friday with Roger Goodell, citing that he didn't have to show up because it wasn't in the bargaining agreement. Essentially, "I don't have to, so I'm not going to". Its petulant and arrogant, and smells of the players union screwing one of their players to benefit the rest of the union. No, Peterson didn't have to go to the meeting, but maybe sticking it up the bosses ass isn't the best idea. I've gone to plenty of meetings I don't have to or want to because it's my career and it's the right thing to do. Tough shit.
 
"The discipline imposed is inconsistent". No, it fucking isn't. It's inconsistent in the sense that the court of law likens beating your children to possessing marijuana (misdemeanor), but the league hasn't ever had a situation like this. Just because the court system is broken and thinks all misdemeanors are the same, doesn't mean the league has to follow the same arbitrary process. This is uncharted water, so it's not inconsistent, and the next person to abuse a 4 year old boy (and admit afterwards that he will continue to) will probably receive a similar punishment. It's amazing that we, as human beings, cry that the world isn't so black and white, yet we want all punishments to be.
 
In short, fuck Adrian Peterson, fuck the players union, and fuck Roger Goodell for being so terrible at his job that he lacks the credibility to discipline a universally accepted asshole of a human being.

 
 

It's pretty amazing that the general consensus is that Roger Goodell is the bad guy, when he's going up against an unrepentant child-abuser. 
 
This is the guy the NFL wants as the face of the league. 

 
To respond to both of these, both Peterson and Goodell can be assholes at the same time.  I'm not excusing Peterson and I'm not saying he should be immediately reinstated.  But I don't think it's unreasonable for the union to believe that the disciplinary system is fucked up, and that Goodell isn't qualified to be making unilateral decisions given his track record.  Goodell seems to be making shit up as he goes along, which doesn't seem to be a very fair system, regardless of how one may view Peterson or any other player.

 

[LoneWarrior1]

"The facts are that Adrian has asked for a meeting with Roger Goodell". The other fact is that he blew off a meeting on Friday with Roger Goodell, citing that he didn't have to show up because it wasn't in the bargaining agreement. Essentially, "I don't have to, so I'm not going to". Its petulant and arrogant, and smells of the players union screwing one of their players to benefit the rest of the union. No, Peterson didn't have to go to the meeting, but maybe sticking it up the bosses ass isn't the best idea. I've gone to plenty of meetings I don't have to or want to because it's my career and it's the right thing to do. Tough shit.
 

 
I thought that the meeting request was odd too, especially given the two sides were supposed to meet last week. However, when I read the article, it said that the meeting was a "disciplinary hearing", which to me, has stronger implications and a much stricter format than what Peterson wanted to / was obligated to do. I'm not sure this past Friday's meeting was in the same context / relative consquences to the types of meetings you've chosen to attend, but I don't know your line of work.

 

[Kenny F'ing Powers]

 
I thought that the meeting request was odd too, especially given the two sides were supposed to meet last week. However, when I read the article, it said that the meeting was a "disciplinary hearing", which to me, has stronger implications and a much stricter format than what Peterson wanted to / was obligated to do. I'm not sure this past Friday's meeting was in the same context / relative consquences to the types of meetings you've chosen to attend, but I don't know your line of work.

 
I'm not sure it matters, to be honest. Having open lines of communication and being able to speak face-to-face can only benefit Adrian Peterson (if he's smart enough to say the right things). It's pretty clear that the NFL has looked favorably when players fall on the sword, and I'm not sure this would have been any different (although, you're right, it could be).

 

[86spike]

As has been discussed here before, the NFL would be vastly better off if they just got the fuck out of the morality police business.
 
If all they had jurisdiction over was drug testing offenses and on-field offenses, they could then let each individual team decide how to handle cases like Rice, AP, Hardy, etc.  If a team thinks it's bad enough PR to keep a guy around, they can cut him.  If the Vikings can't stomach AP returning, cut him.
 
Goodell should just admit defeat and remove his office from the entire thing.  Each team will then be on their own (like the way all the other leagues handle it).

 

[pappymojo]

So, do I have this straight?

Peterson was suspended with pay while the criminal case was being processed.

Peterson enters a plea to the criminal case.

Peterson is now suspended without pay.

 

[PedroKsBambino]

So, do I have this straight?

Peterson was suspended with pay while the criminal case was being processed.

Peterson enters a plea to the criminal case.

Peterson is now suspended without pay.

 
Until the grievance is heard, at least, yes....

 

[Kremlin Watcher]

So, do I have this straight?

Peterson was suspended with pay while the criminal case was being processed.

Peterson enters a plea to the criminal case.

Peterson is now suspended without pay.

Yes, because the case was resolved. Pending resolution, the NFL considered it too risky to take action.

 

[H78]

This is probably a really stupid question, but could the NFL outsource all of their disciplinary proceedings and subsequent actions to a third party group that's legally better-qualified to handle such matters? Maybe a group that has zero ties to the NFL or NFLPA? They're really looking terrible each time they try to impose any disciplinary action as of late - due to the loss of Roger G's credibility, the NFL keeps coming off as either hypocritical or as not coming down hard enough. An independent party needs to handle all disciplinary matters.

 

[fairlee76]

As has been discussed here before, the NFL would be vastly better off if they just got the fuck out of the morality police business.
 
If all they had jurisdiction over was drug testing offenses and on-field offenses, they could then let each individual team decide how to handle cases like Rice, AP, Hardy, etc.  If a team thinks it's bad enough PR to keep a guy around, they can cut him.  If the Vikings can't stomach AP returning, cut him.
 
Goodell should just admit defeat and remove his office from the entire thing.  Each team will then be on their own (like the way all the other leagues handle it).

I forget where I read this, but I think the league got so involved in discipline precisely because individual teams (cough, Bengals, cough) did not want to deal with disciplining their players.  Something about teams having to discipline employees and the employees then resenting the team going forward.

 

[soxfan121]

Goodell should just admit defeat and remove his office from the entire thing.  Each team will then be on their own (like the way all the other leagues handle it).

 
I could be mistaken but ARod was suspended by MLB, not the Yankees. Every time someone charges the mound, the League Office suspends them, not the individual clubs, correct? 
 
Brendan Shanahan is now in Toronto but I'm sure the NHL has a new stooge to do cut the suspension videos, right?
 
The NBA is a lawless wasteland compared to the number of suspensions (real and storyline) Vince McMahon and the WWE hand out. 
 
Are you suggesting Goodell hire a stooge to announce shit for the NFL while pretending it's not the NFL doing the suspending? Are you suggesting the NFL "incept" the discipline problem?
 
That is literally the only thing they could do that would be worse than what they've already done. "Aw, fuck it. The NFL can't do this, we're letting Jerry Jones decide who to suspend and for how long." Aaron Hernandez would be on work-release to the Cowboys so fast, it'd make your head spin.
 
 

This is probably a really stupid question, but could the NFL outsource all of their disciplinary proceedings and subsequent actions to a third party group that's legally better-qualified to handle such matters? Maybe a group that has zero ties to the NFL or NFLPA? They're really looking terrible each time they try to impose any disciplinary action as of late - due to the loss of Roger G's credibility, the NFL keeps coming off as either hypocritical or as not coming down hard enough. An independent party needs to handle all disciplinary matters.

 
Yes. It's called the criminal justice system. You'll find they aren't really good at making everyone happy, either.
 
And who would this independent party be? Would there be elections? Appointments? Who watches the independent party?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_I841J6_M

 

[PBDWake]

 
 
I could be mistaken but ARod was suspended by MLB, not the Yankees. Every time someone charges the mound, the League Office suspends them, not the individual clubs, correct? 
 
Brendan Shanahan is now in Toronto but I'm sure the NHL has a new stooge to do cut the suspension videos, right?
 
The NBA is a lawless wasteland compared to the number of suspensions (real and storyline) Vince McMahon and the WWE hand out. 
 
Are you suggesting Goodell hire a stooge to announce shit for the NFL while pretending it's not the NFL doing the suspending? Are you suggesting the NFL "incept" the discipline problem?
 
That is literally the only thing they could do that would be worse than what they've already done. "Aw, fuck it. The NFL can't do this, we're letting Jerry Jones decide who to suspend and for how long." Aaron Hernandez would be on work-release to the Cowboys so fast, it'd make your head spin.
 
 
 
Yes. It's called the criminal justice system. You'll find they aren't really good at making everyone happy, either.
 
And who would this independent party be? Would there be elections? Appointments? Who watches the independent party?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_I841J6_M
 

 
You ignored the most important sentence in his post.

If all they had jurisdiction over was drug testing offenses and on-field offenses, they could then let each individual team decide how to handle cases like Rice, AP, Hardy, etc.  If a team thinks it's bad enough PR to keep a guy around, they can cut him.  If the Vikings can't stomach AP returning, cut him.

Yes, charging the mound and A-Rod were MLB. Which are Drug testing and on-field offenses. Same with the Shanahan suspension tapes, and most NBA suspensions. Individual teams handle personal conduct.

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

But as we have read in other pieces published recently when teams in the NFL had that responsibility they generally swept it under the rug.

 

[Devizier]

I'm still pissed that the Yankees are getting let off the hook for A-Rod's contract.

 

[H78]

 
 
I could be mistaken but ARod was suspended by MLB, not the Yankees. Every time someone charges the mound, the League Office suspends them, not the individual clubs, correct? 
 
Brendan Shanahan is now in Toronto but I'm sure the NHL has a new stooge to do cut the suspension videos, right?
 
The NBA is a lawless wasteland compared to the number of suspensions (real and storyline) Vince McMahon and the WWE hand out. 
 
Are you suggesting Goodell hire a stooge to announce shit for the NFL while pretending it's not the NFL doing the suspending? Are you suggesting the NFL "incept" the discipline problem?
 
That is literally the only thing they could do that would be worse than what they've already done. "Aw, fuck it. The NFL can't do this, we're letting Jerry Jones decide who to suspend and for how long." Aaron Hernandez would be on work-release to the Cowboys so fast, it'd make your head spin.
 
 
 
Yes. It's called the criminal justice system. You'll find they aren't really good at making everyone happy, either.
 
And who would this independent party be? Would there be elections? Appointments? Who watches the independent party?
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c_I841J6_M
 

 
I seem to recall a bleeding-heart post about how you used to be a prick when you were a kid, but then you learned some lessons, etc., etc. and now you're no longer a prick.
 
...which tells me you're one of the least self-aware people on this board.
 
I think you know exactly what I'm saying, but as usual, you couldn't help yourself.

 

[singaporesoxfan]

This is probably a really stupid question, but could the NFL outsource all of their disciplinary proceedings and subsequent actions to a third party group that's legally better-qualified to handle such matters? Maybe a group that has zero ties to the NFL or NFLPA? They're really looking terrible each time they try to impose any disciplinary action as of late - due to the loss of Roger G's credibility, the NFL keeps coming off as either hypocritical or as not coming down hard enough. An independent party needs to handle all disciplinary matters.

 
Yeah, I don't know why SF121 got on you for this. It's not a stupid question at all - it's precisely what the NFLPA has been calling for in the Peterson case, in asking for a neutral third-party arbitrator to hear Peterson’s appeal of the suspension, rather than Goodell. It's not dissimilar to the role that Barbara Jones was doing in the Ray Rice case. And I suspect the NFLPA might start calling for an independent party as standard procedure.

 

[wade boggs chicken dinner]

As has been discussed here before, the NFL would be vastly better off if they just got the fuck out of the morality police business.
 
If all they had jurisdiction over was drug testing offenses and on-field offenses, they could then let each individual team decide how to handle cases like Rice, AP, Hardy, etc.  If a team thinks it's bad enough PR to keep a guy around, they can cut him.  If the Vikings can't stomach AP returning, cut him.
 
Goodell should just admit defeat and remove his office from the entire thing.  Each team will then be on their own (like the way all the other leagues handle it).

 
Not to single you out, but isn't this what the NFL was doing prior to the second Rice video being released?  They were either sweeping the offenses under the rug, or, as in the initial Rice suspension, following the lead of the courts.

And they got KILLED for it.
 
The NFL is in a no-win situation here.  They can follow the lead of the courts and do no independent investigation, but when a player gets off easy because he has a good attorney (and an overworked judicial system) and concrete pictures of what he did comes out, the NFL gets killed for not using its resources to find the "answer."
 
But if they say, "Look, we know what this guy did looks horrible and our advertisers are complaining" and err on the side of too much punishment, they get killed for overstepping their authority.  And I'm sure if they did something creative like fine AP the equivalent of six games on the theory that taking away the prior game checks is tantamount to a suspension, people would scream that the NFL only cares about money.
 
And this is not something the teams want to do on their own.  If the individual owners wanted the authority, they would have it.
 
I would guess RG said that he'd rather take the heat than have AP anywhere near a TV camera inside a stadium for the rest of the year.  Hard to blame this line of thinking.

 

[GeorgeCostanza]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11911885/adrian-peterson-suspended-minnesota-vikings-running-back-apologizes-physical-abuse-son

He's sorry, won't ever use a switch again.

 

[Corsi]

Jay Glazer ‏@JayGlazer  2m2 minutes ago
Breaking: Adrian Peterson's appeal hearing has been set for 12/2 and Harold Henderson, NOT Roger Goodell, will be the hearing officer

 

[ifmanis5]

Appeal denied. Next.
 
LINK: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12020801/adrian-peterson-appeal-suspension-denied

 

[soxhop411]

NFLPA STATEMENT ON RULING IN ADRIAN PETERSON APPEAL



The NFLPA expected this outcome, given the hearing officer's relationship and financial ties to the NFL. The decision itself ignores the facts, the evidence and the collective bargaining agreement. This decision also represents the NFL's repeated failure to adhere to due process and confirms its inconsistent treatment of players. Our union is considering immediate legal remedies.



-- NFL Players Association

This is going to get ugly.
https://nflpa.com/news/all-news/nflpa-statement-on-ruling-in-adrian-peterson-appeal

 

[soxhop411]

“@AlbertBreer: Vikings RB Adrian Peterson and the NFLPA will huddle tonight and discuss their options. One, of course, is to sue the NFL in federal court.”

 

[glennhoffmania]

NFLPA files suit:
 

 
A few days after the NFL denied the appeal of Adrian Peterson to throw out his indefinite suspension, the NFLPA on Monday morning filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court against the league.
 

 

[soxhop411]

@JasonLaCanfora: Heated exchange between Adrian Peterson's agent and Vikings official at combine latest sign his exit may be looming: http://t.co/4MqDZKwBvS

 

[soxhop411]

@BleacherReport: Report: Adrian Peterson's agent had "heated exchange" with Vikings, said Peterson will never play there again http://t.co/HVUuk6lmJE

 

[Bosoxen]

Looks like Jerruh won't need to use any Viagra to harass coeds today. It might actually work on its own thanks to this news.

 

[rodderick]

Looks like Jerruh won't need to use any Viagra to harass coeds today. It might actually work on its own thanks to this news.

A healthy and motivated Peterson could run for 2400 yards behind that OL.

 

[Bosoxen]

A healthy and motivated Peterson could run for 2400 yards behind that OL.

 
That's why I'm three hours away from having to call the doctor, myself.

 

[Leather]

Minneapolis Star Tribune:  Only a matter of days before A.P. and Vikings part ways.
 
"Peterson’s agent — Ben Dogra — and a Vikings vice president had to be separated at the NFL combine last week."
 
In a typically tone-deaf Vikings twist, it's the Vikings that apparently want A.P. back, and A.P. says "No."  I say tone deaf because...
 
Quote

In an interview last week, Peterson made it clear his wife doesn’t want to be in Minnesota and he said he’s not comfortable with the idea either, saying he didn’t feel Minnesota and the Minnesota media supported him enough following his indictment for negligent injury to his son.
 

 
Every fan I know wants him gone.  The Vikings, of course, are terrified that they'll open their new stadium in 2016 without a marquee player.  That they'd go against public opinion in order to secure a ticket-draw for the stadium that, many feel, they fucked over the city of Minneapolis and Hennepin county to get is rich irony.
 
Of course, gotta give credit to A.P. here, too.  Most athletes in his shoes issue some form of mea culpa, or a "sorry for offending you" non-apology to move past the elephant in the room and get back to letting their on-field performance do the talking.   It takes a special kind of man to blame the fans for not supporting you in your efforts to be a despicable human being.

 

[Morgan's Magic Snowplow]

Isn't it possible that the Vikings are secretly happy to part ways with AP and make Bridgewater - essentially the polar opposite in terms of demeanor - the face of the franchise heading into the new stadium but that they want to see if they can trade Peterson before just releasing him?  What do they gain by releasing him now?  They might as well hold onto him and try to deal him. 

 

[Ed Hillel]

Dallas is going to have to squeeze to fit Dez Bryant under the cap and they have very little financial flexibility as a team in terms of creating cap space. They also have some holes to fill from outgoing Free Agents (Cole Beasley, Doug Free, McClain, Melton, Anthony Spencer, DeMarco Murray, etc.) AP isn't going there, unless he's happy to play for league minimum. If Dallas doesn't draft well, they're probably going to be taking a step back in 2015.

 

[Bosoxen]

Any analysis of the Cowboys' cap situation has to take into account the cap savings from releasing Henry Melton. That's $8.5 million that would go back to the 2015 cap. It hasn't been done yet, but I would expect it to.

 

[Ed Hillel]

Any analysis of the Cowboys' cap situation has to take into account the cap savings from releasing Henry Melton. That's $8.5 million that would go back to the 2015 cap. It hasn't been done yet, but I would expect it to.

 
They already declined Melton's option, and are still at 130 million. You figure Dez should cost 10-12 or so this year, which puts them at 140-142. The projected cap is 140-143. Here's their cap situation, per Over the Cap:
 
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

 

[Reverend]

Minneapolis Star Tribune:  Only a matter of days before A.P. and Vikings part ways.
 
"Peterson’s agent — Ben Dogra — and a Vikings vice president had to be separated at the NFL combine last week."
 
In a typically tone-deaf Vikings twist, it's the Vikings that apparently want A.P. back, and A.P. says "No."  I say tone deaf because...
 
Quote
 
Every fan I know wants him gone.  The Vikings, of course, are terrified that they'll open their new stadium in 2016 without a marquee player.  That they'd go against public opinion in order to secure a ticket-draw for the stadium that, many feel, they fucked over the city of Minneapolis and Hennepin county to get is rich irony.
 
Of course, gotta give credit to A.P. here, too.  Most athletes in his shoes issue some form of mea culpa, or a "sorry for offending you" non-apology to move past the elephant in the room and get back to letting their on-field performance do the talking.   It takes a special kind of man to blame the fans for not supporting you in your efforts to be a despicable human being.

 
AP: You didn't support me!!
MN: That is correct.

 

[Leather]

Girlfriend: I slept with my co-worker.  But it's over now, so no big deal.
Boyfriend: You did what?!  You are a horrible person!
Girlfriend: I really don't appreciate how you aren't being supportive.  This is very hard on me. My mother had an affair; what's the big deal? But I'm sorry, I guess.
Boyfriend: I am leaving the apartment and when I come back, I need you gone.
Girlfriend to friend: You know, I don't think I want to get back with my boyfriend.  He really showed no interest in working through our problems.  He doesn't deserve me.

 

[Bosoxen]

 
They already declined Melton's option, and are still at 130 million. You figure Dez should cost 10-12 or so this year, which puts them at 140-142. The projected cap is 140-143. Here's their cap situation, per Over the Cap:
 
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/dallas-cowboys

 
I guess I missed that they'd already gotten rid of Melton. They can still save an extra $8 million by cutting Brandon Carr after June 1. Don't think that will help them next month, but it would help down the road.

 

[RhaegarTharen]

As much as I love(d) watching him suit up in purple (before) - shipping him out of town for picks would be very beneficial to the franchise on several levels.  I've personally been bemoaning the limbo area the team has been stuck in for a few years now - not good enough to compete for a real playoff shot, but not bad enough (especially w/ AP) to really blow it up.  Combine that w/ a few botched drafts and it's been a frustrating past 5 years for Vikings fans.  Hell - the team couldn't even lose when they needed to - winning a Week 16 game on the backs of Joe Webb and Toby Gerhart in 2011 to secure a pick outside the Top 2 (Luck & the haul StL received for RGIII).  Toss in the embarrassing selection of Ponder in the 2011 draft (1 of 4 players in the Top 16 that year who have NOT made the Pro Bowl, and selected 1 spot behind Watt) and (despite a few bright spots) the team hasn't done enough in the draft to really help itself either. 
 
Moving on from Peterson helps with cap space, helps the team rebuild, and also won't force us to root for him anymore.  Sad to say this, but sign me up.  
 
No if only we can convince Jerry to spring for a reverse-Herschel Walker deal...

 

[NW Sox Fan]

Girlfriend: I slept with my co-worker.  But it's over now, so no big deal.
Boyfriend: You did what?!  You are a horrible person!
Girlfriend: I really don't appreciate how you aren't being supportive.  This is very hard on me. My mother had an affair; what's the big deal? But I'm sorry, I guess.
Boyfriend: I am leaving the apartment and when I come back, I need you gone.
Girlfriend to friend: You know, I don't think I want to get back with my boyfriend.  He really showed no interest in working through our problems.  He doesn't deserve me.

And then the friend fights the boyfriend for not yet following through on the breakup.

 

[Leather]

And then the friend fights the boyfriend for not yet following through on the breakup.

 
No, the boyfriend is the fans/state of Minnesota.  
 
The Vikings themselves seem to want him back, and are not the primary focus of A.P.'s scorn.   He's mad at the fans and the press of Minnesota for not being more supportive of him.  Which is fucking insane.   
 
The Vikings themselves are fucking stupid, and actually want him back because they think they need to have something to distract the fans and press that the team has been (as sleepyjose points out) treading water and quietly going nowhere for a half-decade since Favre's Final Folly (trademark pending).   I'm fairly certain that they think having A.P. will let them be mildly competitive for another year or two, at which time the new stadium will be open and the fans will go "Ooo, pretty!"  They have no long-term vision.  
 
Basically, they are taking a page right of the Twins' playbook with Target Field, replacing Joe Mauer with A.P.  But it's even worse, because at least the Twins can cite their "small market" (even though it's not that small) while the Vikings just stick their thumbs up their asses.
 
The irony, of course, is that the fans don't even want A.P. anymore.   It's a stunning display of tone-deafness, but what else can you expect from a team that publicly tangled with a fucking ex punter in order to defend its right to employ homophobic assholes in a state that had just voted to legalize same-sex marriage.  The franchise is so out-of-touch with their fanbase, and the city of Minneapolis/state of Minnesota as a whole, this hardly shocks me.  Of course, our elected officials never hold their feet to the fire, so fuck them too.
 
The Vikings are this close to being the Jets of the NFC.

 

[dcmissle]

The Vikings would still be a not close second to the Redskins.

It was hilarious here yesterday to see two drive-time segments consumed with AP to DC speculation. Not because the hosts wanted him; they don't. But because that is such a Danny Snyder move -- that's what we do, baby, we win the war for offseason clicks, and if if we beat Jerry Jones in the process, that's a win/win.

The hosts were like, this can't happen, why are we spending time. Then their local beat guy reminded them, this is the Redskins; ANYTHING can happen.

 

[taoofoj]

Also in DET too, much sports radio speculation about bringing AP in.  The idea being proposed is DET puts non-exclusive franchise tag on Suh, Don't match whatever offer he gets on the market and let Suh sign elsewhere, then get a 1st round draft pick as comp for Suh, and THEN flip that 1st to MIN for AP.  Kind of a slow sports newsday here, other than the excitement that Joba Chamberlain resigned with the Tigers on a 1yr $1MM deal.

 

[ivanvamp]

From a purely football standpoint, imagine the Patriots with Peterson lined up behind Brady, taking the handoff, and then running angry.
 
Holy smokes.

 

[TheoShmeo]

From a purely football standpoint, imagine the Patriots with Peterson lined up behind Brady, taking the handoff, and then running angry.
 
Holy smokes.

I was wondering when someone would suggest this. It seems impossible for several reasons...AP will cost too much, the Pats won't want to trade enough picks to make it work, the Pats have never in the BB era had or made a priority of having a back of Petersen's caliber and the baggage associated with this player, to name some.

But damn, having to defense the Pats' passing offense and AP sounds like a nightmare. Dare to dream, even if it will almost certainly remain just that, a dream.

 

[ivanvamp]

I was wondering when someone would suggest this. It seems impossible for several reasons...AP will cost too much, the Pats won't want to trade enough picks to make it work, the Pats have never in the BB era had or made a priority of having a back of Petersen's caliber and the baggage associated with this player, to name some.

But damn, having to defense the Pats' passing offense and AP sounds like a nightmare. Dare to dream, even if it will almost certainly remain just that, a dream.

 
Yeah, I don't see it happening.  But he's WAY better than Corey Dillon was when he played with NE (and that Corey Dillon was very good).  To have the Peterson threat combined with Brady's ability to play-action and throw….goodness, I think this team would average more than 40 points a game.  Easy.

 

[Bosoxen]

From a purely football standpoint, imagine the Patriots with Peterson lined up behind Brady, taking the handoff, and then running angry.
 
Holy smokes.

 
But then what would Pats fans be without their moral superiority?
 
(Only half joking.)

 

[Leather]

I don't know if we can say if A.P. would be "Way better than Corey Dillon..." at this point.
 
Better?  Probably.  But A.P. is going to be 30 this season (same age Dillon was when he came to N.E.).  Obviously, A.P. has had a better career (though, look at Dillon's again: he was a monster that was probably better than Marshawn Lynch), but after missing an entire season, who knows?  
 
I'd be shocked if he gets more than a 2nd rounder.

 

[BigJimEd]

13M salary, hasn't played in a year and his off field issues. As good as he is, I wouldn't be surprised if Vikings aren't able to find a trade partner.

 

[RememberTheGronkans]

From a purely football standpoint, imagine the Patriots with Peterson lined up behind Brady, taking the handoff, and then running angry.
 
Holy smokes.

With that level of play action, I would expect Tyms to catch 20 touchdowns.