Aaron Boone is the new Yankee manager

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Cashman taking his time is allowing more people to think about it and put their names possibly into play, John Flaherty and David Cone have both been rumored a bit and today both confirmed interest. Both have announced quite a few Yankee games in recent years so Yankee fans have been able to hear a lot of their perspective, so I'd say absolutely no on Flaherty who isn't any more special as an analyst than he was as a player.

Cone on the other hand I have raved about a lot in recent years here (ironically he is easily the best Yankee TV guy since Girardi's one season), and I would love to have him in the NY dugout, but maybe not as manager. Pitching coach I could certainly see, even maybe bench coach, but I don't think manager, at least yet.

Quotes from both here, also some good Joe Torre quotes on the situation:

http://m.yankees.mlb.com/news/article/261046854/cone-flaherty-would-like-a-shot-at-yanks-job/
 

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Would Robbie Thomson come back as bench coach for someone like Cone?
Is anyone talking about Carlos Beltran? He spent two years mentoring the young players and would be an especially good fit for Gary Sanchez, and Aaron Judge, who both leaned on Beltran for advice in 2016.
 

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First Beltran plans to decide whether to retire in the next week or so, he nominated A-Rod for Yankee manager today, which thankfully neither side seems interested in (Cashman or A-Rod).

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/carlos-beltran-endorses-alex-rodriguez-yankees-manager-article-1.3621751
Cross Beltran off my list. Cashman must do a slow burn when someone mentions A-Rod's name. If all of the A-Rod history in pinstripes could be erased with one of those Men In Black pens, then maybe it could happen, but Cashman's memory would also have to be wiped clean.
 

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Even with that, A-Rod still seems so awkward at interacting with people. Maybe he'd be ok with other players in the dugout (honestly I doubt even this), but no way could he deal with the media every day.
 

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Arod would make a great bench coach for a team like the Rays or Astros. There's no way he'd ever be considered in a big market without serious experience under his belt.

And also, just why on earth would Arod put himself through the rigors of the baseball season again. He's got a great thing going for him and he's doing well. Continue the TV thing. Go buy a team and compete with Jeter.
 

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Everything I've ever read is that ARod had no problems with other players - especially the young guys the last few years.

He obviously has an amazing baseball mind, though that doesn't mean he should be a manager. I'd be curious to see if he could be a good hitting coach kind of like Bonds.
 

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Everything I've ever read is that ARod had no problems with other players - especially the young guys the last few years.

He obviously has an amazing baseball mind, though that doesn't mean he should be a manager. I'd be curious to see if he could be a good hitting coach kind of like Bonds.
Name us a superstar of A-Rod's caliber who became a great manager, Shiner. Then name me an egotistical superstar who became a great baseball manager, capable of handling the NY media while dating Jennifer Lopez. Then name me a superstar who raked in over $20M annually who became a manager.
A-Rod is right where he wants to be, in front of a camera.
 

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Even with that, A-Rod still seems so awkward at interacting with people. Maybe he'd be ok with other players in the dugout (honestly I doubt even this), but no way could he deal with the media every day.
A-Rod's players would end up mocking him behind his back the way Jeter and other teammates did from the dugout.
 

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He obviously has an amazing baseball mind.
I disagree with this, he was a fantastically gifted player who worked very hard, but he was a guess hitter way too often if he really had an "amazing baseball mind".

Also as an analyst he was fine (not hard to be more insightful than the crew surrounding him at FS1, none of whom seemed like they did a bit of research in between games) but Smoltz and Cone are both much better, not to mention Girardi in his one year on YES.

So even if he was a normal person and not the Michael Jackson of baseball, I would vote no on A-Rod.
 

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I'd be curious to see if he could be a good hitting coach kind of like Bonds.
Was Bonds actually a good hitting coach? That's a genuine question, I don't know, but I do know that Stanton finally broke out big the year after Bonds left (he was only there for 2016).
 

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Dunno how many reporters will be around for a full-fledged press conference for every interview, but Boland has a bunch of quotes from Thomson after hs interview today:

Erik Boland‏Verified account @eboland11 20m20 minutes ago
Rob Thomson: "One of my strengths is my communication skills and being able to reach people, build relationships, gain trust and then once you do that, then you can start implementing different things because you’ve got the trust of the players."

Thomson, asked how he'll be different than Girardi: "I really don’t want to compare myself to Joe, I love Joe, but I do know this. My strengths are my communication and my trust with the players and because of that trust we can implement more things into our game..."

Thomson:"I feel like I’ve got the leadership skills to be open minded & listen to new ideas, have an open-door policy where players (& coaches) can come in & not be worried about me shooing them out of the door. I want to know what’s on their minds & in their hearts all the time"
 

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You two have let your hatred of ARod spiral out of control, but I'll stop derailing this thread. As far as Jeter mocking, ARod, well, Jeter can get fucked. He was the fakest leader on all of those teams and a major prima donna.
 

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Cashman isn't messing around:

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Rob Thomson said his interview lasted between 5-6 hours. Touted his "communication skills" and ability to establish "trust" with players.
Grady Little had great communication with his players. He was also a fucking idiot who was overmatched as a manager and tried to run the bullpen like a guy trying to drive using only the rear view mirror.
 

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Yeah, Rob Thomson isn't getting this job, but they probably want to keep him around in some context for continuity.
 

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I doubt they'll hire him either, but really I obviously have no idea.
 

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Another uninspiring name interviews, thankfully Cashman told us he expects 20-25 of these.

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Yankees announce Eric Wedge has interviewed for the manager's job.
 

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Eric Wedge really doesn't check any of the boxes of what people say the Yankees are looking for. I'd forgotten how young he was when managing the Indians... he'll *only* be 50 next season. However, his most notable history working with young players would be running Brandon Phillips and Milton Bradley out of Cleveland. He did work with an analytical front office in Cleveland, but he was replaced by Manny Acta, who was advertised as an analytics guy. Wedge's reputation was as a strict old school manager.

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This is a really sharp contrast to the Sox at this point, isn't it? Clearly the Sox had their sights set on Cora, interviewed a small handful of guys, and made a decisive hire. Normally that is how the Yankees operate. Wonder how long this drags out.
 

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Casting such a wide net makes it seem like they didn't know what the hell they were doing coming into this process but just, somehow, felt they desperately had to get rid of Giardi.
Or...they’re the only team with no manager and can take all offseason if they want by interviewing any and everyone?
 

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Casting such a wide net makes it seem like they didn't know what the hell they were doing coming into this process but just, somehow, felt they desperately had to get rid of Giardi.
I think it's more like I said earlier, they are looking for someone to be the manager for the next 10 years with this young talent base like Torre was twenty years ago and there's no real rush to put him in place immediately, as crow said. Girardi wasn't that guy, and there's probably more than a couple people out there who are capable of being NY's version of Hinch/Cora/Roberts.
 

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This is a really sharp contrast to the Sox at this point, isn't it? Clearly the Sox had their sights set on Cora, interviewed a small handful of guys, and made a decisive hire. Normally that is how the Yankees operate. Wonder how long this drags out.
I posted it a day or two ago here, but Cashman said earlier this week he expects the process to go into December.
 

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Cone reminds me of a 'Safety school' . Cashman knew when he let Girardi go, that he had Cone ready and waiting if he couldn't find a super candidate.

The only problem is that this falls at the WORST possible time. For the last month, every single day there has been women accusing men of rape or harassment, and Cone had a couple of issues in his Mets days. True or not, you know some 20 yr old twitter journalist is going to dredge them up. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1077670-david-cone-cocaine-and-sexual-accusations-with-the-new-york-mets-kc-royals
 

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But, did they fire Girardi on the spur of the moment?
How was there no investigation of this question done before this?
To the first question, it doesn't seem so, and to the second question, presumably there was? I don't understand the rush, managers don't really do anything this time of the year, and the only really obviously strong candidate, Alex Cora, was off the market by the time NY was eliminated.

The top post on this page has a link to Cashman's extensive comments on this topic from a few days ago, for anyone interested in getting more of his perspective.
 

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The thing that I find stranger isn't their managerial hunting process, it's that Cashman is doing all of this and making decisions while not under contract himself (it expired Nov 1). He's said there will be time to deal with that later in the offseason, but still strikes me as unusual.
 

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Actually I think I'm wrong, it's hard to find details but it looks like maybe his contract goes through the end of the year, not the end of October, so that makes a lot more sense.
 

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Hmm, then I found a few places that said it was up at the end of October, so really not sure. Here is what Cashman had to say about it in the nj.com story linked upthread:

"Q: Nothing's been announced regarding your status. Can we assume that you have a new contract? What can you tell us about that? Was there any time you thought you might leave?

Cashman: “No update on my status. I have had a few conversations with Hal Steinbrenner. They haven’t been concluded yet and when ultimately they do there will be announcement on that.

“Part of the process for me is, to be honest, there are so many people that we’re trying to work with through because their deals are up and, first and foremost, my very first conversation with Hal was regarding the manager with all of the coaching staff that’s attached to that. And there are only limited jobs available. I thought that was the most important heavy lifting that needed to be done for this franchise in fairness to them.

“I think everybody realizes and understands that I would like to continue working here and I can tell you that Hal Steinbrenner has been open to that as well. So that gives a great atmosphere for eventually (a new contract) coming down the pike, but I’m trying to put other people’s circumstances right now with the limited timeframe that I have with the decision making that’s important. We’ll get to (my contract) eventually, but right now it’s nothing that’s been finalized."

http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2017/11/yankees_gm_brian_cashmans_q_a_on_dumping_joe_girar.html
 

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Cashman has been on such a roll in recent years, I don't doubt anything he does these days. I am even wondering if him taking his time is somehow Otani related.

"Sure, Shohei, you can pitch and hit with us, but also what's your dad doing these days? Might he want to manage the Yankees?" :)
 

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Jon Heyman answers this a bit in his new column:

"we know of at least one person who was approached about his interest in managing the Yankees several weeks before the end of the season."

https://www.fanragsports.com/inside-baseball-mlb-notes-where-could-jay-bruce-land/
Wonder if Cora was among those contacted.

Cashman has the juice and the credibility to be able to do a manager search this way. Dombrowski does not have that yet in Boston, IMO - had the Sox followed the same search process, he'd be getting crucified right now for letting Cora slip out of his grasp and for not having a plan when he dismissed Farrell.
 

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That's because the Boston sports media (minus Speier) mostly give Neanderthals a bad name.

But really, interviewing binders full of candidates just doesn't seem like DD's style. He tends to know what he wants and goes after it directly.
 

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More Cashman quotes just now:

Mark Feinsand‏Verified account @Feinsand 50m50 minutes ago
Yankees GM Brian Cashman said there will be no managerial interviews the next three days while he’s at the GM Meetings. The next interview is Thursday, though he declined to say who that would be.

Cashman: “I know we’re on the clock, but we have to go through the steps regardless. ... I’d like something to be in place, but we have a vacancy and we have to take our time to fill that void.”
 

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Terry mentioned Carlos Beltran a little while ago, and it looks like the slowness of the process might make him a candidate, I am all for that:

"His former teammate Carlos Beltran remains unclear about his future and whether he’s going to retire.

“I haven’t made the decision yet,” Beltran said. “My decision won’t be difficult. It will be play one more year or stay home."

Beltran said winning the World Series with Houston won’t impact his future.

“It will be based more on how I feel and what I want to do,” Beltran said.

He’s expressed interest in managing when he’s done playing — and the Yankees are in search of a manager.

“If I make the decision to stay home, then we can talk about it,” Beltran said."

http://nypost.com/2017/11/12/cc-sabathia-hints-why-yankees-have-edge-to-re-sign-him/
 

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And Beltran officially retires as a player today, interesting.
 

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"I had the opportunity to play with the Yankees for three years and I enjoyed myself, big-time," Beltran said. "I appreciated the way I was treated; my family, the relationship with [Yankees GM] Brian [Cashman]. I don't know what they're looking for. Experience as a manager, I don't have that. But I have the passion for the game, I have the knowledge of being able to play the game for a long time. I get along well with the players, with my teammates; I've always taken that to heart, trying to impact my teammates in a positive way.

"I would not discount anything; you're talking about the New York Yankees. You're not just talking about any team in baseball. Not taking anything away from any other organization, but the Yankees are a team that anyone would love to put on that uniform and manage that ballclub."