9/13: Stop Getting Hurt

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NY finishes the 10 game road trip with three in Toronto, the AL East team who's played them the toughest so far this season (NY is up 8-5 in the season series and went 43-12 against the other three ALE teams with 2 left in TB). First up is Tanaka against Anthony Kay, who the Mets sent to TOR in the Stroman deal. This will be his second game in the bigs, the first was a very solid start against TB last week.

NY is 2 games up on HOU now in the race for the #1 seeding, although it looks like that will be the tougher ALDS opponent (the wild card winner).

NY 97-51
HOU 95-53
LAD 95-53
MIN 89-57
TB 87-61

But mostly, as the title says, STOP GETTING HURT.
 

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This may seem counter intuitive but if Stanton can’t fill Tauchman’s shoes in left field, Yanks are probably cooked. They need Stanton to play the field so that EE can DH and Voit play first, or vice versa.
If EE’s oblique injury limits him, the Yanks are cooked.
If Severino can’t give the Yanks a useful contribution, they are cooked. If Betances can’t return to form, they are cooked.
Scoring usually falls off in the postseason. If Yanks can’t pitch, they are cooked.
On the plus side, this team has addressed every shortcoming or injury all season long. Too bad the playoffs are a new season.
 

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This may seem counter intuitive but if Stanton can’t fill Tauchman’s shoes in left field, Yanks are probably cooked. They need Stanton to play the field so that EE can DH and Voit play first, or vice versa.
Actually whether or not Stanton can play LF, there's probably not room for both EE and Voit in the lineup unless you bench someone from the superior defensive combo of DJ, Gleyber, Didi and Urshela. I think with Tauchman out, Stanton pretty much has to play LF, barring more injuries.
 

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Yes, please stop getting hurt, and I agree with JA about EE and Voit. Either one is enough at DH.
 

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Actually whether or not Stanton can play LF, there's probably not room for both EE and Voit in the lineup unless you bench someone from the superior defensive combo of DJ, Gleyber, Didi and Urshela. I think with Tauchman out, Stanton pretty much has to play LF, barring more injuries.
So you’re saying Yanks can afford one more injury and not be cooked?
 

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This year all speculation is futile. Normally it makes sense to assume everything will eventually trend back towards the mean, and yet...The number of injuries and that trend has gone insanely off the rails negatively and just never seems to abate...meanwhile pertformance from the rookies and replacements thrown into the fray are also off the charts positively and as the days dwindle down to a precious few small sample size makes it all even more a crapshoot...buckle up for the most insane ride any of us have seen in a very long time.
 

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So you’re saying Yanks can afford one more injury and not be cooked?
It's always nice to have choices and you hate to lose almost anyone, but I had Tauchman on the bench in favor of Stanton and Voit on the bench in favor of Encarnacion when I did the proposed postseason lineups recently, so losing one of those pairs isn't catastrophic. On the other hand, losing Sanchez would be a bummer, even if Romine has been quite hot himself lately.
 

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It's always nice to have choices and you hate to lose almost anyone, but I had Tauchman on the bench in favor of Stanton and Voit on the bench in favor of Encarnacion when I did the proposed postseason lineups recently, so losing one of those pairs isn't catastrophic. On the other hand, losing Sanchez would be a bummer, even if Romine has been quite hot himself lately.
You start losing power if Gary is gone, and the Yankees win because of their ability to go deep.
One of the positive possible scenarios I have is Stanton getting hot for three weeks in October.
 

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NY needs to break the streak of their last four opening games of series tonight:

OAK: L, W, W
TEX: L, W, W
BOS: L, W, W, W
DET: L, W, W
 

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You start losing power if Gary is gone, and the Yankees win because of their ability to go deep.
One of the positive possible scenarios I have is Stanton getting hot for three weeks in October.
The Yankees have been winning lately because of their ability to go deep but truthfully, the first half of the season was the Gio and DJ show which didn't include as many homer-centric wins. Should Gary be hurt until round 1 or 2 of the playoffs, we'll manage with Romine who has occasional pop and strong defense.

In other words, our postseason is very likely going to come down to pitching. Which Paxton and Tanaka are gonna show up? If it's the August and September versions, we are going to be able to win any game.
 

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The Yankees have been winning lately because of their ability to go deep but truthfully, the first half of the season was the Gio and DJ show which didn't include as many homer-centric wins. Should Gary be hurt until round 1 or 2 of the playoffs, we'll manage with Romine who has occasional pop and strong defense.

In other words, our postseason is very likely going to come down to pitching. Which Paxton and Tanaka are gonna show up? If it's the August and September versions, we are going to be able to win any game.
Maybe the awesome bullpen and the addition of an electric (in short bursts) Severino will bail out the hitters.
It was the Yankee offense that scored 1 run in its final 18 innings of the 2017 ALCS.
 

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Heh, Severino does not lack for confidence:

"Severino confirms he’ll be making his debut Tuesday"

"What kind of pitcher should Yankees fans expect Tuesday? Severino said: “the same guy” they’ve seen in the past. Used the word “electric.”"
 

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Can't image why everything makes us paranoid these days....
I have spent the last two seasons wondering why the Yankees win so often. This bothers me because winning is fun and I should be enjoying this new era better. Last year, especially. I doubted that team every step of the way. My old-fashioned baseball bones feel like a team is only as good as its starting pitching. So that has to change. The bullpen formula erases a lot of bad starting pitching. An explosive offense can make up ground against mediocre pitching.

The Red Sox found creative uses for their starters last October, employing starters as relievers. The Yankees have a deep bullpen that could lighten the load but nobody knows how that looks yet. CC and German in Game 3 or 4? Severino going five strong. Tanaka out as soon as he slips.

I am more confused than paranoid right now. But you raise an interesting point, Coup.
 

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The bullpen formula erases a lot of bad starting pitching. An explosive offense can make up ground against mediocre pitching.
This is Cashman's formula, and his baby. IMO, it's pragmatic considering acquiring top-tier pitching, like Sonny Gray, doesn't workout at times and also some options are cost prohibitive whether in terms of trade assets or length in years (Corbin). So we'll see, but if the lineup struggles this postseason then Cashman will be scrutinized for his formula and will probably be under a lot of pressure to sign Cole in the off-season. But, hopefully it doesn't come to that and the lineup holds its own against postseason pitching.
 

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Detailed accurate metrics of everything has completely transformed the game now that the dumb jock traditionalists are finally seen as dinosaurs.
Almost all the traditional roles are going away or are gone. Pitchers have been disadvantaged by the mound lowering, now being emphasized by the tighter ball with less grip or aerodynamic effect, all to compensate for the fact that everyone throws much much harder and soon no batter will see any pitcher more than twice, a constant procession of fresh arms. Hitting no longer cares about striking out, launch angles matter, shifting is the relentless application of documented tendencies and unless the hitter has Wee Willie skills, he's neutralized. Nutrition and training is off the charts better (not to mention chemical enhancement) the player is fully clad in pads, gloves and body armor in a park that is padded at almost every wall....and yet the inujries keep piling up. So far the only explanation I can muster is that the players are playing much, much harder: pitchers are at the limit of what human bone and ligament can deal with constantly hence Tommy John for all, and the guys in the field are also pushing the limits...what else can it be ?
 

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Detailed accurate metrics of everything has completely transformed the game now that the dumb jock traditionalists are finally seen as dinosaurs.
Almost all the traditional roles are going away or are gone. Pitchers have been disadvantaged by the mound lowering, now being emphasized by the tighter ball with less grip or aerodynamic effect, all to compensate for the fact that everyone throws much much harder and soon no batter will see any pitcher more than twice, a constant procession of fresh arms. Hitting no longer cares about striking out, launch angles matter, shifting is the relentless application of documented tendencies and unless the hitter has Wee Willie skills, he's neutralized. Nutrition and training is off the charts better (not to mention chemical enhancement) the player is fully clad in pads, gloves and body armor in a park that is padded at almost every wall....and yet the inujries keep piling up. So far the only explanation I can muster is that the players are playing much, much harder: pitchers are at the limit of what human bone and ligament can deal with constantly hence Tommy John for all, and the guys in the field are also pushing the limits...what else can it be ?
Good summation, Coup. Pretty much what we are all seeing. The game has changed a lot since 1996, let alone 1956.
 

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It will be changed before too long. DJ will say something to a coach and eventually word will get to the official scorekeeper, who is probably working on a hockey story.
Exactly as you said as YES just mentioned that it got changed to E3.
 

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Rheingold. Heh. You guys are funny tonight.

It is nice to have a healthy division lead in September. Even with all the injury concerns.
 

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Romine is 9 for 12 in September, kind of curious to see what him and Higashioka do the next couple weeks with Gary out.
 

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Nope... on August 26, 1939 as part of the Worlds Fair, W2XBS an experimental station (later WRCA, then WNBC) broadcast the first MLB games, a doubleheader from... Ebbets Field, Dodgers vs. Reds...they split and the announcer was Red Barber...but that is not the answer....the first baseball game was broadcast on May 17, because they need to practice...so on that date they set up their 2 cams, the main announcer was Bill Stern...at Baker Field as the Columbia Lions played the Princeton Tigers
 

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So, it’s looking like Paxton is the #1 in the postseason. Personally, i’ve never thought of it any other way even with Tanaka’s experience.
 

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What a play by DJ, snaring McKinney’s 109-mph liner while standing next to first base. Ball almost knocked him over.