9/12: Thank You, CC

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In which our wounded again warrior drags what is left of his knee out one more time in an attempt to say goodbye on his own terms. He claims his knee is back to 'manageable' and he is good for 75-80 pitches, I don't believe that but we'll see, I am guessing more like 30-40 tops. NY is backing him up with German which I guess puts Happ as the #4 again after his recent success. I do think NY should experiment more with different openers in the last few weeks, maybe that is where Loaisiga fits.

DET counters with Matthew Boyd, a possible trade target for NY and others until DET asked for way too much from everyone, a 2.85 ERA this year in 12 games through May and a 5.84 in his 17 starts since then, 29 HRs allowed in his last 99 innings.

 

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Can't wait for the thank you CC thread. He had ups and downs here but was there a more successful pitching acquisition we've made than CC? Maybe Mike Mussina? None nearly had the leadership qualities, personality, and adaptability that CC had. It was rumored that he originally didn't want to move to NY but he embraced it immediately, embraced the culture, and became an instant clubhouse leader. If you haven't listened to his podcast with Ruocco, everyone should. CC cares and CC is the man. Will miss the big bear and hope he doesn't abandon the team once he's gone.
 

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Why do we feel the need to thank highly-paid athletes who were just doing their jobs? I appreciate that CC put his heart and soul into his job. Had he kept his weight down, he might have spent less time on the injured list. Yes, he gave back as much as he got, which was considerable. My guess is his legacy with the Yankees is tied into the way he carried on the pitching leadership after Pettitte and Mo retired. He went 14-5 in 2017 when the franchise awakened from a mediocre stretch that lasted five years.
 
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Why do we feel the need to thank highly-paid athletes who were just doing their jobs? I appreciate that CC put his heart and soul into his job. Had he kept his weight down, he might have spent less time on the injured list. Yes, he gave back as much as he got, which was considerable. My guess is his legacy with the Yankees is tied into the way he carried on the pitching leadership after Pettitte and Mo retired. He went 14-5 in 2017 when the franchise awakened from a mediocre street that lasted five years.
For the last couple of years, CC's value has intangibly been in the clubhouse. Yes, he's been good on the mount with surprising results in 17-18 but by all accounts, everyone loves him and he's a major component of the team's personality. So is Gardner.
 

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I kind of want to change the title to 'Thank You, Terry' now. :)
 

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Rain and lightning right now in Comerica, this one is going to be delayed to start.
 

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Would people want him on the playoff roster? Would he be useful as a 1-2 inning reliever in the post season?
 

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I think that’s still up for debate, I would tend to say no but it depends on how he looks starting tonight and what the other options actually are. Tarpley will be back tomorrow, Montgomery and Betances and Severino all in the next week or so too.
 

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Reopened and bumping this thread, CC/German vs. Turnbull who is 3-14 with a 4.68 ERA and hasn't won a game since May.

Interestingly Cabrera is only 1-11 career vs CC, that's an impressive head to head for the big man.
 

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LeMahieu 3B
Judge RF
Gregorius SS
Torres 2B
Sanchez C
Gardner CF
Voit DH
Ford 1B
Wade LF
 

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Good job by Ford scoring from first there, even though there were two outs and it took a lousy throw. :)
 

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Brett makes a nice catch and Ford a nice scoop on a short hop to get him out of it, CC looks good. Detroit's only hit so far was on a ball between Gardner and Judge that I thought Gardner could catch but he backed off because Judge was running so hard right at him.

Not sure about a pitch count for CC, he is at 43 through 3. They'd probably like to try to get him a win if he keeps pitching like this, but not sure he has two more innings left in him.
 

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Ford got lazy with his glove on the first one. And made double sure on the next one.

When we see a bad play made in the big leagues, does anyone else have flashbacks to their own baseball careers?
 

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Brett makes a nice catch and Ford a nice scoop on a short hop to get him out of it, CC looks good. Detroit's only hit so far was on a ball between Gardner and Judge that I thought Gardner could catch but he backed off because Judge was running so hard right at him.

Not sure about a pitch count for CC, he is at 43 through 3. They'd probably like to try to get him a win if he keeps pitching like this, but not sure he has two more innings left in him.
I prefer German getting the win. Might help him get 20 Ws.
 

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Two unrelated thoughts:

1) Gary is an idiot for that SB attempt, doubly so if he was injured because of it.
2) The idea of Wade somehow making the post-season is growing on me. Probably not worth the tradeoff, but having a guy who can bunt for a base hit, steal a bag, and who has some positional flexibility is attractive.
 

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Though, getting back to Gary, I don't remember the count or number of outs, is it possible he misunderstood a sign and thought there was a hit and run or something? So weird.
 

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Though, getting back to Gary, I don't remember the count or number of outs, is it possible he misunderstood a sign and thought there was a hit and run or something? So weird.
That makes more sense than anything else.
 

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Though, getting back to Gary, I don't remember the count or number of outs, is it possible he misunderstood a sign and thought there was a hit and run or something? So weird.
I was impressed that he was running so well that he thought he could steal a bag. Seems like we are seeing a lot of steal attempts with two outs to get a guy into scoring position. Maybin did it.
 

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Meanwhile, German is cruising, would be amazing if he could get through this whole game.
 

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Meanwhile, I jinxed German, maybe time to bring in the real relievers.
 

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I think the latest on the HR battle is NY 280, MIN 277, but MIN has 3 games in hand (including one later tonight).
 

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I don't imagine either we or Gio will ever know what he found this year that suddenly catapulted his offense into the stratosphere, but he seems so comfortable hopefully he won't lose it
There have been a bunch of articles, but sometimes it just takes guys until they are 26 or 27, I think.
 

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FWIW, @TheDivision, my impression is that the Encarnacion and Happ things are basically precautionary. They said Happ was scheduled to go back to NY even before the game and he's been dealing with it for a few starts now, and Encarnacion stayed in the game and hit a long home run after feeling his.
 

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Everything we have seen for the last six months suggests this Yankee season will end with a big injury in the playoffs. Maybe Stanton will throw a shoe in the outfield. Or Sanchez will run over Gio chasing a pop fly. Why are they all so fragile?
Tauchman almost broke my spirit with his calf injury. How could you do that to us, Mike? We had grown to trust your defense and even your bat. You even looked good getting hurt, hobbling on one leg to field the ball. Clint would have missed that ball with a dive and sustained a concussion.
And the pitchers! How about a new rule. No starter goes into the fourth inning. The bullpen starts throwing as soon as Happ finishes breakfast. Coup is the new bullpen coach, assigned to answer the phone, and ignores dugout commands, warming up Ottavino in the second inning.
 

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I've decided that it is all a Disney movie, and the odds keep getting stacked against them for added drama. Since it is Disney, of course they win at the end.

It is the only way I can keep my blood pressure down with all the freaking injuries.