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Doc Zero

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I don’t feel like rehashing the trade deadline debate because honestly Bloom probably made the correct call keeping his powder dry, but I will say this: at 4 p.m. on Friday it became clear that this Rays series was going to be ugly.

We were destined to examine the trade deadline within the context of an ugly series at the Trop. It was unavoidable.
 

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I love how many posters know precisely what the Red Sox tried to get done at the deadline — every trade proposal that wasn't accepted, every player that they sought out, every deal that fell through at the last minutes.

It's an astonishing level of insight that's going on in this circlekneejerk
 

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I’m so done with Vaz right now. Stop short cutting and make proper blocks of the plate on shit in the dirt.
If the one knee thing is to help frame pitches better he needs to give it up because he still isn’t framing for shit and can’t stop a bouncing ball to save his life. Worst of both worlds.
 

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I love how many posters know precisely what the Red Sox tried to get done at the deadline — every trade proposal that wasn't accepted, every player that they sought out, every deal that fell through at the last minutes.

It's an astonishing level of insight that's going on in this circlekneejerk
I know a guy...
 

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Just remember what we expected of this team in April. Baseball season is too long, but it does eventually make water find its level.
 

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Had a chance to win any of these games if they didn't shit themselves any time runners got on base.

Now they play the Tigers who have a better starter going in all 3 games and have had a better offense than the Sox for 2 months.
 

Doc Zero

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I don’t feel like rehashing the trade deadline debate because honestly Bloom probably made the correct call keeping his powder dry, but I will say this: at 4 p.m. on Friday it became clear that this Rays series was going to be ugly.

We were destined to examine the trade deadline within the context of an ugly series at the Trop. It was unavoidable.
like, just cosmically, we all sort of figured this was gonna happen, right?
 

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I love how many posters know precisely what the Red Sox tried to get done at the deadline — every trade proposal that wasn't accepted, every player that they sought out, every deal that fell through at the last minutes.

It's an astonishing level of insight that's going on in this circlekneejerk
Oh please. Being a MLB GM means you get paid a lot of money to work in baseball, which is pretty cool. Downside is, you get judged on what happens…not what you may have tried to do. I’m optimistic about Bloom, but it’s not crazy to be frustrated by his deadline moves given the obvious holes the team has.
 

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It's a shame we couldn't have played these three games against Miami like some teams.
They got an Angels team without Trout and Rendon. A Phillies and Yankees team with Covid. A Tampa team with half the pitching staff on the IL. How much easier do the opponents need to get?
 

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They got an Angels team without Trout and Rendon. A Phillies and Yankees team with Covid. A Tampa team with half the pitching staff on the IL. How much easier do the opponents need to get?
Yeah - this looked like a hard schedule but it was one of the easier ones we will have.
 

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I love how many posters know precisely what the Red Sox tried to get done at the deadline — every trade proposal that wasn't accepted, every player that they sought out, every deal that fell through at the last minutes.
You don't HAVE to wait until the day of the deadline. In 2018 the Sox needed a right-handed bat and a starting pitcher. Dombrowski added Steve Pearce on June 28 and Nathan Eovaldi on July 25.
 

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I hope Chaim is proud of himself.
He should be. This roster isn't done being rebuilt, the system isn't talented enough yet, and the home grown talent asked to step up and graduate isn't good enough.

Enjoy the overachieving and the wildcard birth that will go along with it!

The window isn't closing and a core will remain. If this team is THAT special it will continue to surprise and defy logic. I hope it does.
 

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They got an Angels team without Trout and Rendon. A Phillies and Yankees team with Covid. A Tampa team with half the pitching staff on the IL. How much easier do the opponents need to get.
Broken down like that, they are who we hoped they weren't. It's going to get uglier. This series in Detroit most are pining for could be the house of horrors that really kills the season. DET is no fucking pushover. And we look like we are.
 

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He should be. This roster isn't done being rebuilt, the system isn't talented enough yet, and the home grown talent asked to step up and graduate isn't good enough.

Enjoy the overachieving and the wildcard birth that will go along with it!

The window isn't closing and a core will remain. If this team is THAT special it will continue to surprise and defy logic. I hope it does.
They give a trophy for most rebuilt farm system, right?
 

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Oh please. Being a MLB GM means you get paid a lot of money to work in baseball, which is pretty cool. Downside is, you get judged on what happens…not what you may have tried to do. I’m optimistic about Bloom, but it’s not crazy to be frustrated by his deadline moves given the obvious holes the team has.
There's a large gap between being frustrated by the result, and going beyond that to say Bloom did nothing to didn't get the job done. Being pissed off from a false sense of knowing everything that went down is lazy posting
 

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He should be. This roster isn't done being rebuilt, the system isn't talented enough yet, and the home grown talent asked to step up and graduate isn't good enough.

Enjoy the overachieving and the wildcard birth that will go along with it!

The window isn't closing and a core will remain. If this team is THAT special it will continue to surprise and defy logic. I hope it does.
But you don't get it!!! They haven't won a World Series since 2018!!! Bloom's ruined our lives!
 

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Just as I feel we all knew with karmic certainty that this series would suck because we were overdue for a stretch like this and that's how baseball goes, I feel like we should all know by now that these swings take their course and then a new one begins. We're not a team that will be swept every series while our rivals sweep every series, even though now it sure feels like it and people will point to the flaws on our team to justify the prediction. We're probably in for another week of pain while we surrender to the seeming reality that our starters will have a 5+ ERA the rest of the way and our hitters will continue to bat .150 with RISP...and then the pendulum will swing again and it won't be that bad (maybe, and not coincidentally, when Sale and Schwarber and maybe Arroyo join the team).

All I need on any given day to not be sad is for the Sox to win or for the Yankees or the Rays to lose. We've been pretty spoiled all year that at least one of those good outcomes has happened almost every single day. Three days in a row of nutpunch correction sucks, but won't last.

This may be sour grapes nonsense, but the best time to peak is during the last few weeks of the year. Obviously these head-to-head games are very important, but maybe our rivals are peaking a bit too soon and we'll have one more big run at the end...
 
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Just as I feel we all knew with karmic certainty that this series would suck because we were overdue for a stretch like this and that's how baseball goes, I feel like we should all know by now that these swings take their course and then a new one begins. We're not a team that will be swept every series while our rivals sweep every series, even though now it sure feels like it and people will point to the flaws on our team to justify the prediction. We're probably in for another week of pain while we surrender to the seeming reality that our starters will have a 5+ ERA the rest of the way and our hitters will continue to bat .150 with RISP...and then the pendulum will swing again and it won't be that bad (maybe, and not coincidentally, when Sale and Schwarber and maybe Arroyo join the team).

All I need on any given day to not be sad is for the Sox to win or for the Yankees or the Rays to lose. We've been pretty spoiled all year that at least one of those good outcomes has happened almost every single day. Three days in a row of nutpunch correction sucks, but won't last.

This may be sour grapes nonsense, but the best time to peak is during the last few weeks of the year. Obviously these head-to-head games are very important, but maybe our rivals are peaking a bit too soon and we'll have one more big run at the end...
Yes! Luck decides everything when talent gaps are narrow. We are watching a mesmerizing roulette wheel.
 

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Yes! Luck decides everything when talent gaps are narrow. We are watching a mesmerizing roulette wheel.
Not sure how serious or sarcastic this is. At times like now it's easy to feel like the talent gap is huge and not in our favor, because winners look talented and losers look like losers. You might be down on a team with Devers, X, JD, Verdugo, Renfroe, Kike, Eovaldi, Erod, Pivetta, Barnes, Taylor, Whitlock, Houck, Sawamura, etc. but our team is very talented. So talented that they've played great except for the most recent four games. If JD got a game winning hit tonight and things went more our way in one other game you'd feel much better about things.

This isn't a 2018 team. At time it's felt like a 2013 team. Maybe it's a 2011 team. Time will tell.
 

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I think my problem is that it’s impossible to know what your window is.

Going into this year, everyone thought the Yankees were in their window. But it didn’t happen.

2013 was a surprise. 2018 was a surprise. 2021 was a surprise. I don’t get not taking advantage and striking when the iron is hot. Instead we have an incomplete team scuffling while everyone else stocked up.

Feels like giving up.Maybe they’re good next year. Maybe they’re not - they play in the toughest division in baseball and maybe the Jays andRays dominate for the next 5 years while we are mixing and matching to find our new core.

Or you take the five all stars and add a few more guns so that Arauz isn’t playing important outs.

Anyway - this could just be a bad stretch and they start winning again. But the timing of it is bad.
 
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Reading the post-game posts, its as if the collective thousands of years of watching baseball we have, gets blotted out into panicky hot takes.

And its too early too panic.

Chaim made our bed, and Cora will fluff the pillows.

Lets hope they did not shit the sheets, as we have two more months to sleep on them.

Its a pennant race, we've done these before.
 

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Oh please. Being a MLB GM means you get paid a lot of money to work in baseball, which is pretty cool. Downside is, you get judged on what happens…not what you may have tried to do. I’m optimistic about Bloom, but it’s not crazy to be frustrated by his deadline moves given the obvious holes the team has.
I mean fer real ... I mean blanket trump card against any criticism could be "well Bloom knows more than we know." But - we are fans of a public thing. Just like folks who aren't pros who go see movies and plays (my biz) have every right to analyze and criticize, so can we with baseball ... safe to assume caveats that we are working partially from conjecture.

I think my problem is that it’s impossible to know what your window is.

Going into this year, everyone thought the Yankees were in their window. But it didn’t happen.

2013 was a surprise. 2018 was a surprise. 2021 was a surprise. I don’t get not taking advantage and striking when the iron is hot. Instead we have an incomplete team scuffling while everyone else stocked up.

Feels like giving up.Maybe they’re good next year. Maybe they’re not - they play in the toughest division in baseball and maybe the Jays andRays dominate for the next 5 years while we are mixing and matching to find our new core.

Or you take the five all stars and add a few more guns so that Arauz isn’t playing important outs.

Anyway - this could just be a bad stretch and they start winning again. But the timing of it is bad.
Meanwhile it is very possible that 3 of those 5 all stars are no longer on the team after 2022 ...
 

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I love how many posters know precisely what the Red Sox tried to get done at the deadline — every trade proposal that wasn't accepted, every player that they sought out, every deal that fell through at the last minutes.

It's an astonishing level of insight that's going on in this circlekneejerk
So every other contender just had some lucky magic potion that led them to talk other ball clubs into making impactful trades for them and poor Chaim just got the short straw?
 

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What a weekend.

You don’t improve your 1B problem.

You don’t improve your bullpen

You don’t improve your bench ( oh wait, the hurt guy),

No other team wants your farmhands or cost controlled rostermen.

Now, I guarantee that one of the lower vaccinated teams in baseball leaves one of the highest virus counties in America with an epidemic of Delta crap.

I think demoralization is a real thing.
 
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Reading the post-game posts, its as if the collective thousands of years of watching baseball we have, gets blotted out into panicky hot takes.

And its too early too panic.

Chaim made our bed, and Cora will fluff the pillows.

Lets hope they did not shit the sheets, as we have two more months to sleep on them.

Its a pennant race, we've done these before.
Thank you.
 

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Reading the post-game posts, its as if the collective thousands of years of watching baseball we have, gets blotted out into panicky hot takes.

And its too early too panic.

Chaim made our bed, and Cora will fluff the pillows.

Lets hope they did not shit the sheets, as we have two more months to sleep on them.

Its a pennant race, we've done these before.
Good post Rich. I kinda like pennant races.
 

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I don't know if Chaim intentionally shied away from any major upgrades because they value restocking the farm system more than chasing a title this year, or whether they just didn't have the chips to get the bigger deals done. Either way it's frustrating to be sitting in a great spot at the trade deadline, essentially exactly where we were in 2013, and to watch the teams around us in the standings get much better and then get swept by the fucking Rays. That sucked.

I was more upset after the final out last night than I've been in a long time over baseball.