72 Suburbs in Search of a City: Anthony Davis to Los Angeles Lakers

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Ramona Shelbourne pointed out that Iggy is a former Pelinka client, so LAL will be targeting him if/when he gets bought out
 

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lakers must be really really sure that they're getting kawhi, the best players still on the market beyond him are like cousins, green and the morris brothers
 

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That would be a great choice to add to a team that doesn't have anyone that will play 82 games.
It would be a tremendous gift from the Warriors organization. This is akin to trading directly with your heated rival that makes them better.

3 of the Top 5 or whatever players in the game with Kuzma and Iggy off the bench with presumably Curry. Just freakin Wow!!!
 

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My tea-leaf reading is that Bullock to the Knicks means the Lakers are very confident in Kawhi. If the Lakers thought they may miss on Kawhi, and would have to spread the cap space around, they would be telling Bullock to wait around, and that they would top any offer he got elsewhere. Bullock's low cap hold is hugely valuable for the Lakers in the scenario where they need to sign a bunch of role players instead of a star. The fact that Bullock didn't wait suggests to me the Lakers didn't send that sort of "wait for Kawhi" message, which in turn suggests they think they're getting Kawhi.

Obviously this would require Bullock to be willing to wait around for like a 2/$30M offer from the Lakers if they miss on Kawhi, so this is hugely speculative.
 

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My hopelessly optimistic/naive wish is that Kawhi has no intention of joining the Lakers but is intentionally dragging out the process so that, when he announces he's going to the Clippers, it'll be too late for the Lakers to add a different max player.
 

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What other max players?
That's my point - if Kawhi has planned to go to the Clippers all along, he has an incentive to drag the Lakers along until all the other max guys have signed elsewhere so that when he signs with the Clippers, the Lakers have nowhere else to turn.

It's admittedly a pipe dream with no basis in fact.
 

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That's my point - if Kawhi has planned to go to the Clippers all along, he has an incentive to drag the Lakers along until all the other max guys have signed elsewhere so that when he signs with the Clippers, the Lakers have nowhere else to turn.

It's admittedly a pipe dream with no basis in fact.
That seems pretty Machiavellian for an NBA player
 

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It's so strange to me that Kawhi is going to join the Lakers and lebron.

What a weird ass league of babies.
 

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Honestly, if Kawhi signs I will basically just enjoy the NBA for what it is -- there are enough subplots to keep the league interesting. Being a fan is unhealthy enough, and the championship or bust mentality is just doubly so. Of course, I will enjoy a hearty dose of schadenfreude if they still get eliminated in some laughable fashion, because who wouldn't?
 

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Honestly, if Kawhi signs I will basically just enjoy the NBA for what it is -- there are enough subplots to keep the league interesting. Being a fan is unhealthy enough, and the championship or bust mentality is just doubly so. Of course, I will enjoy a hearty dose of schadenfreude if they still get eliminated in some laughable fashion, because who wouldn't?
I felt this way a little yesterday but thinking about it this morning, what's the point?

I think it's my tipping point to just quit it altogether. Save myself a bunch of time.
 

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I do think it's a really weird choice of Kawhi. He was just the best player on a team that won the title, and yet if he goes and plays with LeBron he instantly gets second billing, because that's how it is with LeBron. If it works, and the team dominates, it will be fine, probably, but if there's a patch of adversity, you know damn well that LeBron and his team will blame everyone other than LeBron, because that's what they always do.

And any championship run will be focused on "Is LeBron the greatest of all time?" It only makes sense for chasing rings. The alpha move, is obviously to go to the Clips and whoop LeBron in LA--but that's hard.
 

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I felt this way a little yesterday but thinking about it this morning, what's the point?

I think it's my tipping point to just quit it altogether. Save myself a bunch of time.
I already gave up football, and my baseball consumption is purely radio-based, aside from the 2-3 games I attend every year. Never cared about hockey.

I enjoy basketball (the game) more than any of the others and so that's probably what I'll hang on to.
 

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My tea-leaf reading is that Bullock to the Knicks means the Lakers are very confident in Kawhi. If the Lakers thought they may miss on Kawhi, and would have to spread the cap space around, they would be telling Bullock to wait around, and that they would top any offer he got elsewhere. Bullock's low cap hold is hugely valuable for the Lakers in the scenario where they need to sign a bunch of role players instead of a star. The fact that Bullock didn't wait suggests to me the Lakers didn't send that sort of "wait for Kawhi" message, which in turn suggests they think they're getting Kawhi.

Obviously this would require Bullock to be willing to wait around for like a 2/$30M offer from the Lakers if they miss on Kawhi, so this is hugely speculative.
If Kawhi does not come, the Lakers are in a really tough spot. One would assume shooting and defense are a priority. FA happened so fast this year, the Lakers are left looking at KCP, Danny Green, Tollivor (who plays the wrong position), Mook (if you believe his improved shooting is real and who also plays the wrong position). After that group you descend to trash like Stauskas, Jodie Meeks, Jimmer.
 

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If Kawhi does not come, the Lakers are in a really tough spot. One would assume shooting and defense are a priority. FA happened so fast this year, the Lakers are left looking at KCP, Danny Green, Tollivor (who plays the wrong position), Mook (if you believe his improved shooting is real and who also plays the wrong position). After that group you descend to trash like Stauskas, Jodie Meeks, Jimmer.
I had speculated prior to free agency that they could split the money between Collison, Danny Green and Cousins. Collison is out but swap in Rondo and that's theoretically still in play. I'd expect Iggy to end up there one way or another. Can still tap Korver, Chandler and JR Smith as minimum salary guys. KCP with the room exception. It's not just Kawhi or bust for them.
 

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I felt this way a little yesterday but thinking about it this morning, what's the point?

I think it's my tipping point to just quit it altogether. Save myself a bunch of time.
Really? This is your tipping point? Because Kawhi is choosing to either stay where he is with a much better supporting cast than the Clippers (Gallo is literally your best player) or play with two superstars instead of choosing the most mediocre middling option?
 

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If Kawhi does not come, the Lakers are in a really tough spot. One would assume shooting and defense are a priority. FA happened so fast this year, the Lakers are left looking at KCP, Danny Green, Tollivor (who plays the wrong position), Mook (if you believe his improved shooting is real and who also plays the wrong position). After that group you descend to trash like Stauskas, Jodie Meeks, Jimmer.
Even if Kawhi does commit, it will be kind of fascinating to see how the Lakers fill out the rest of the roster. It probably won't matter all that much, but they do need at least some depth for inevitable in-season injuries/periods of rest for the stars.
 

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Really? This is your tipping point? Because Kawhi is choosing to either stay where he is with a much better supporting cast than the Clippers (Gallo is literally your best player) or play with two superstars instead of choosing the most mediocre middling option?
I'll take him going back to the Raptors. My tipping point is him joining the Lakers. That's just insane to me. Like what's the fucking point?
 

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I'll take him going back to the Raptors. My tipping point is him joining the Lakers. That's just insane to me. Like what's the fucking point?
The point is to live in Los Angeles (pretty much where he's from) instead of Canada, and maybe to play with a couple of guys he's always wanted to play with, and maybe have a much more secure shot at NBA titles? Unlike Durant, Kawhi has already passed the "can he win it being the unquestioned leader on the team" test. KD still has to prove that he can win without a team of all-NBA guys around him. Kawhi just did that and his legacy is secured from that standpoint. Maybe now he'd just like to win a handful more titles where he doesn't have to carry the load.

Who knows what makes these guys tick?
 

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Kawhi going to the Lakers would be a bummer, and would be enough to make them strong favorites. That said, they'd be less than like 50% to win the title or anything, so sort of a far cry from the league we've recently been living with. It sort of sucks since it's the Lakers falling ass backwards into these guys, but that's not gonna change until you get rid of the max contract.
 

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At this point, i have no idea what kawhi's waiting for. Now it's just being cruel to the Raptors
 

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Kawhi going to the Lakers would be a bummer, and would be enough to make them strong favorites. That said, they'd be less than like 50% to win the title or anything, so sort of a far cry from the league we've recently been living with. It sort of sucks since it's the Lakers falling ass backwards into these guys, but that's not gonna change until you get rid of the max contract.
If it's Lebron, AD, and Kawhi, they are the new Golden State, presumptive favorites. Just wait and watch the pieces fall in place around them. We're talking about 3 of the 5 or 6 best players on Earth, playing on a single team (while two of the other 10 best players in the world are out for the season).
 

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If it's Lebron, AD, and Kawhi, they are the new Golden State, presumptive favorites. Just wait and watch the pieces fall in place around them. We're talking about 3 of the 5 or 6 best players on Earth, playing on a single team (while two of the other 10 best players in the world are out for the season).
That's really it. When you think about consensus top-10 NBA players, every rational list will have LeBron, Kawhi, and AD among the top 5-6 easy. Throw in Harden, Giannis, Curry, and Durant? So maybe 3 of the top 7? All on one team. You could put me on that team and they'd stand a chance.
 

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If it's Lebron, AD, and Kawhi, they are the new Golden State, presumptive favorites. Just wait and watch the pieces fall in place around them. We're talking about 3 of the 5 or 6 best players on Earth, playing on a single team (while two of the other 10 best players in the world are out for the season).
While true, the Heat had prime LeBron/Wade/Bosh but still couldn’t beat a much less talented Mavs team so there will be hope. And I think the NBA is far more talented in 2019 than it was back in 2011.
 

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They "are"....nothing confirmed yet, right? It does seem the Clippers are out of it given that there's not a 2nd star with whom to pair Kawhi now. Which really is a shame as the Clippers are a good example of how a team ought to do it -- professional and made all the right/smart moves. The Lakers have been run in a haphazard fashion, but....LeBron begets AD and LeBron/AD begets Kawhi. That said, isn't Toronto still a live chance? If it was a done deal...it'd be done already. The meetings Kawhi has had and has scheduled, and especially the initial exclusion of Pelinka, indicates he must still have some issues to resolve.

I mean -- I think he's going to the Lakers, too -- but more in the range of a 60% shot, 30% shot for Toronto, and a 10% darkhorse shot for the Clippers.
 

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That's really it. When you think about consensus top-10 NBA players, every rational list will have LeBron, Kawhi, and AD among the top 5-6 easy. Throw in Harden, Giannis, Curry, and Durant? So maybe 3 of the top 7? All on one team. You could put me on that team and they'd stand a chance.
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No reason to believe that guy is legit....but I fear he did guess right here.
 

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If Kawhi signs with the Lakers, there won't be much reason to watch the NBA next season if all three stay healthy. I will still watch the Celtics, but there isn't any need to watch anyone else and living in Lakeland will be no fun at all.
 

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Someone is telling me that twitter account belongs to Jeannie Buss’ nephew. Reddit supposedly doxed him which is why he deleted his account.

Grain of salt.
 
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Someone is telling me that twitter account belongs to Jeannie Buss’ nephew. Reddit supposedly doxed him which is why he deleted his account.

Grain of salt.
Supposedly Kurt Rambis is on some Lakers board letting all the dirt about their meeting out. I guess it will say something about Kawhi if he chooses the Lakers.
 

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Supposedly Kurt Rambis is on some Lakers board letting all the dirt about their meeting out. I guess it will say something about Kawhi if he chooses the Lakers.
What is he saying?

So if you Google “Jeanie Buss nephew Reddit”, the first hit is a Reddit thread from today. Google has his nephew mentioned in its archived text but if you click the link it’s a bunch of removed comments (doxxing is obv against the rules). Not conclusive but suspicious enough to be depressed about what might be coming.
 

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Supposedly Kurt Rambis is on some Lakers board letting all the dirt about their meeting out. I guess it will say something about Kawhi if he chooses the Lakers.
If he’s a low key guy who doesn’t want much attention, why not get shade under brighter stars? He’s already proven himself as a clear alpha. It’s not quite Durant or LeBron and Bosh in Miami.