72 Suburbs in Search of a City: Anthony Davis to Los Angeles Lakers

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Ramona Shelburne says the Pelicans basically has control of the Lakers draft for the next 7 years due to pick swaps, etc.
I guess that gets around the no consecutive rule? So they get to choose to swap 3 years out of the next 7? Is that even legal?
 

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If the Heat Big 3 + nobodies could gel and win championships, then this lineup is a monster by comparison.

I do hope you're right though. Maybe we'll all look back at this moment and laugh when AD has a season-ending injury.
I mean, that was also Prime Lebron instead of Old LeBron and Prime Wade instead of Kemba (AD is probably better than Prime Bosh though),

I guess that gets around the no consecutive rule? So they get to choose to swap 3 years out of the next 7? Is that even legal?
You can trade as many years as you want in a row, you just can't have 0 1sts. So swaps are fine, it's how the Celtics got the Nets' picks like 5 years straight
 

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If the Heat Big 3 + nobodies could gel and win championships, then this lineup is a monster by comparison.
This lineup is the best of the Heat Big 3 but much older and only 1 superstar helping, not 2 HOFers in their prime.
 

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Pels can flip Ball or deal Jrue. I think Ingram will pair well with Zion. Hart is solid second teamed. Since they are set at PG, I think they can deal the #4 if someone wants Garland. Or they can take Culver. I know Indiana was looking at Ball, any chance to get him for Sabonis?
 

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I wonder how much of that haul Griffin has to thank the KD and Klay injuries for. We know the Lakers were desperate to not let another year of Lebron go to waste, but they just saw a huge window open up in one week's time.
 

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So happy if this means we are keeping Tatum. Losing Tatum to keep cancer and rent AD was going to put me in a dark place.
 

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It sucks that the Lakers manage to be a complete tire fire of an organization and yet have still stumbled their way into acquiring another major star.

The optimistic view is that the Lakers’ front office is still a tire fire; and LeBron might not be able to get along with Davis/other teammates as he continues to excersise comeplte control over the franchise. Davis could have a miserable season in LA and then bail after one season for a better offer. Then LA has no draft picks and an aging, cantankerous LeBron. Fingers crossed.
 

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So happy if this means we are keeping Tatum. Losing Tatum to keep cancer and rent AD was going to put me in a dark place.
Yeah, even if the team has a lower ceiling than last season, I think the C’s should be a lot more likeable and fun to watch next season.
 

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It sucks that the Lakers manage to be a complete tire fire of an organization and yet have still stumbled their way into acquiring another major star.

The optimistic view is that the Lakers’ front office is still a tire fire; and LeBron might not be able to get along with Davis/other teammates as he continues to excersise comeplte control over the franchise. Davis could have a miserable season in LA and then bail after one season for a better offer. Then LA has no draft picks and an aging, cantankerous LeBron. Fingers crossed.
Honeymoon period. With a weakened West, they'll win a lot and everyone will be happy until after the contract is signed. You're rooting for injury at this point.
 

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I guess that gets around the no consecutive rule? So they get to choose to swap 3 years out of the next 7? Is that even legal?
You do a pick swap every other year so you still retain a first round pick and meet the requirements of the rule.
 

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Any chance Danny tries to trade up to #4? Has to know what Griffin does and doesnt like from his assets. Package up 14/20 and a future 1st or a player Griffin likes?
It's a 3-player draft. I mean, there's a chance, but I don't see him going for it. Plus the Pel's roster is super full so I don't think they are looking to add more low picks.
 

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AD was the catch Danny was fishing for to complete the rebuild and he had the chips to get it done. Just sucks that for whatever reason he really did not want to come here. I’ll be happy to root for the young guys and watch their development but it definitely feels like the rebuild has failed. A championship isn’t coming for a while.
You mean the team that made it to game 7 in the ECF with Tatum as a rookie leading them? And now add Hayward, a year longer removed from his injury with possibly only losing Rozier from that team. Sure its not going to be easy but saying a championship isn't coming for a while is nuts. They still have all their picks too
 

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Honeymoon period. With a weakened West, they'll win a lot and everyone will be happy until after the contract is signed. You're rooting for injury at this point.
Yeah like when Dwight Howard joined Kobe.
 

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Kinda surprised they didn't get Kuzma. Lonzo doesn't want to play there and can't play offense in the half court, Ingram is an injury risk and doesn't play hard all the time, Hart is a JAG, and the initial of those first rounders is the 4th in a three man draft. There better be light protections/plenty of swaps for the remainder of the picks haul, because those players scream "eh" to me.
 

DJnVa

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Terrible trade for New Orleans. Those first round picks will be in the late 20’s. Ball and Ingram for a Top 10 player.
But if there was essentially no other offer, and AD was leaving, what should they do?

If you're confident in your drafting ability, take the picks and hope the Lakers implode.
 

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Tatum and Brown blossom. Hayward returns to pre-injury form and, with Horford, they have four all star caliber players. Plus Smart. The Celtics will be very good next year.
 

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Terrible trade for New Orleans. Those first round picks will be in the late 20’s. Ball and Ingram for a Top 10 player.
And we don't even know if Ingram can play going forward with his blood clots.

I'd be surprised if NO is better than the Lakers even once in the pick swap years, and the picks, after this year, aren't going to be in the lottery. Griffin got fleeced unless he can flip some of this stuff for stuff with more value.
 

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Terrible trade for New Orleans. Those first round picks will be in the late 20’s. Ball and Ingram for a Top 10 player.
It’s infuriating that the Lakers get rewarded for drafting poorly at #2 (not one Laker fan is going to miss Ingram nor Ball) while Ainge drafted so well at #3 in the same drafts. It’s like watching some rich kid land a 100K job out of college even though he is an idiot while you busted your ass for years.
 

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A lot of you are bummed, but I'm happy the C's didn't beat that offer.
 

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And we don't even know if Ingram can play going forward with his blood clots.
There are literally dozens of articles that quote multiple doctors as saying the opposite. Good grief. Hate the trade if you must, but don't make things up to support your point.
 

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You mean the team that made it to game 7 in the ECF with Tatum as a rookie leading them? And now add Hayward, a year longer removed from his injury with possibly only losing Rozier from that team. Sure its not going to be easy but saying a championship isn't coming for a while is nuts. They still have all their picks too
Anything is possible but the Celtics got a bit lucky two years ago with their draw as well as the field in the East ex-Cavs. IMHO, a lot of fans were duped into a bit of fools gold with that team's performance.

And even if you disagree, most people need to acknowledge that the ECF is much better now even with Kawhi possibly gone from Toronto, Butler out of the fold in Philly and the Bucks free agents. The Nets are better, the Hawks are better, the Knicks may improve and teams like Miami and Orlando are talented enough to hang around the lower seeds.

The NBA is a stars league - with no real elite level players, the Celtics are going to have to see a huge leap out of their young guys or a transaction that lands one soon, Boston isn't likely to sniff a championship in the next year or two.
 

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Ainge was smart to not deal Tatum + assets for a rental player. And it was obviously no secret that it was LA or bust for Davis, or I'm convinced some other team would have made a play, as that Laker offer was definitely beatable. I mean, NO basically traded a dollar bill for 3 pennies and some scratch tickets with poor odds.

The Pels will at least have a shot to build around Zion, with Ball and Ingram likely being moved at some point in the next 2 seasons.
 

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I’d love to hear what Griffin’s alternate plan should have been. Hold onto Davis another 6 months and hope that a team fell out of the sky with a better offer? All but a few teams would know he’s a rental so they’d presumably have put their best offer out there now if they had interest.
 

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A lot of you are bummed, but I'm happy the C's didn't beat that offer.
I have mixed feelings. I'm bummed that we didn't get to pair up superstars while our biggest rival did. On the other hand, I'm with you - that would have been a potentially franchise-crippling risk for us to take.
 

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Honeymoon period. With a weakened West, they'll win a lot and everyone will be happy until after the contract is signed. You're rooting for injury at this point.
I don't know that it's necessarily "rooting for the injury" to observe that LBJ turns 35 in December, has been playing in the NBA since age 18, and has started to become somewhat of a defensive liability. Expecting that he is going to play at a superstar level at both ends of the floor this year, never mind in future years, seems like a huge assumption. Of course, we've been saying that about TB12 for about 10 years, so...
 

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I wonder what the over under for games missed due to injury will be for LeBron and AD.. I’d be tempted to take the over. I worry about injuries with big men lasting or ending a career.
 

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Man all this talk about how the Lakers picks 3-6 years from now are going to be late 20s for sure is giving me some Nets trade flashbacks
 

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That makes at least two of us, GoDa.
Three. I was very unexcited about a one-year rental. Let the kids play. The Celts have some good first-round picks. Hayward, Horford, Smart ... they've got some very good players. I think they may swing back to being overachievers from being underachievers too. The chemistry stunk last year, and that was a big part of the problem. They couldn't get on the same page.
 

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Anything is possible but the Celtics got a bit lucky two years ago with their draw as well as the field in the East ex-Cavs. IMHO, a lot of fans were duped into a bit of fools gold with that team's performance.

And even if you disagree, most people need to acknowledge that the ECF is much better now even with Kawhi possibly gone from Toronto, Butler out of the fold in Philly and the Bucks free agents. The Nets are better, the Hawks are better, the Knicks may improve and teams like Miami and Orlando are talented enough to hang around the lower seeds.

The NBA is a stars league - with no real elite level players, the Celtics are going to have to see a huge leap out of their young guys or a transaction that lands one soon, Boston isn't likely to sniff a championship in the next year or two.
Oh totally. I don't think, as they are built currently, will win in the next year or two. My point was more its not like the only way this team was going to get better was with AD. There is already a solid base with some of the most room for improvement in the conference. This team is not suddenly with no way to improve now
 

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Kawhi goes to the Clippers and then AD leaves the Lakers and signs with the Clips.

As for the Celtics, Ainge needs to hit on a free agent and at least one of his draft picks. If Horford stays, that could be a very good team. If he leaves, then they are a mediocre team.
 

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If Pelicans really got three Lakers picks and three pick swaps, plus Ingram and Ball, that is a pretty good haul for AD. Clearly the next year---and in all probability the next few years---those picks won't be all that valuable. But even LeBron ages, and AD may or may not be able to carry the team alone. There's also no real path to add talent past the LeBron window now, which means the out-years of those picks are pretty interesting.

I suspect it came down to Kyrie for Ainge---if he could have Kyrie, AD, and whatever else he'd do it (at least, I hope he would). But without Kyrie, there just isn't a path to a title-level team and a way to keep AD with confidence, and so the plan now becomes to semi-reset. Tatum, Brown, Smart, Time Lord, 3 firsts this year, Rozier (guessing he's back, whether I'm psyched about that or not), the Memphis pick, hope Al is back and Heyward returns more to form. We'll see.
 

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Three. I was very unexcited about a one-year rental. Let the kids play. The Celts have some good first-round picks. Hayward, Horford, Smart ... they've got some very good players. I think they may swing back to being overachievers from being underachievers too. The chemistry stunk last year, and that was a big part of the problem. They couldn't get on the same page.
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