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DeadlySplitter

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I like Workman a lot, but he has blown three saves now in the 8th. he's probably a 7th inning guy on a proper bullpen.
 

BaseballJones

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The bullpen guys are just taking turns now blowing it. They get three good innings from Taylor, Brasier, and Barnes, have the lead, and Workman blows it in the 8th. Goodness.

So when I argue that blown saves, even though it's a bad stat, are still really bad things for bullpens to do, is anyone really going to make the contrary case?
 

DeadlySplitter

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the Blue Jays haven' really done much on offense on their own accord tonight. it's been some horrible pitches by us.

that would make this loss more painful than some other ones.
 

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The bullpen guys are just taking turns now blowing it. They get three good innings from Taylor, Brasier, and Barnes, have the lead, and Workman blows it in the 8th. Goodness.

So when I argue that blown saves, even though it's a bad stat, are still really bad things for bullpens to do, is anyone really going to make the contrary case?
Giving up runs is a bad thing to do.

The statistical packaging is just distraction.
 

SoFloSoxFan

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They all suck. Whenever someone is pitching and they suck and you think someone else should be pitching instead, that person sucks too. They all do.
 

BaseballJones

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Giving up runs is a bad thing to do.

The statistical packaging is just distraction.
When you're up 8-1, giving up three runs in the 9th is basically harmless (except for the extra pitches the guys need to throw). When you're up 3-1 and give up three runs in the 9th, it'll likely cost you the game.

Not all runs given up are of the same value. So giving up runs isn't necessarily (depending on the context) a bad thing. Giving up *LEADS* sure is. I know you know that.