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Re-watching the YES feed and it literally happened in less than 20 pitches to go from 4-0 to 5-4. So amazing.
For those with mlb.tv and a little free time, it's very worthwhile to listen to the last two half innings on all four broadcasts...NESN, YES, WEEI, and WFAN. They're all fantastic in their own way.
 

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Watched the game in a bar in NYC. The most striking thing was the sense of resignation amongst Yankees fans when they blew it. They don’t think this team is any good.
 
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I hate to see that shit - a kid being rushed to the bigs and expected to be the savior. Remember what happened to Bobby Sprowl. One of the things I disliked about Dombrowski was his tendency to promote people directly from AA. I'm an old fashioned type that thinks everybody should spend a least some time at each of the tree levels of the minors, even if it is only a couple of months.
 

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So the last time in the regular season the Yanks had a no hitter late and blown against the Red Sox was Mussina in Early Sept. 2001 when Carl Everett. broke it up with 2 outs in the 9th. Yanks win 1-0. And of course Mussina again but this time in the post season. Game 1 of that memorable 2004 ALCS. I think it was the 7th inning and he had a perfect game broken up by Mark Bellhorn I believe. Sox were down 8-0 and cut it to 8-5. Moose imploded and he was out. I think the final was 10-7. I guess the last no hitter they had against us was Righetti July 4th 1983?? Was there one after? Did I miss one since that one?
 
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Ironically David Cone was losing pitcher and pitched a very good game for the Sox the last time the Yanks almost no hit the Sox in the Regular season. Early Sept. 2001 Mike Mussina's broken up by Everett in the ninth.1 -0 win by the Stanks. Cone was terrible most of the year for us but pitched a very good game that night. I think it was a Sunday night ESPN game.
 
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Not Crawford -- it was Carl Everett, and it wasn't just a no-no, it was a perfecto. Shank complained about Fenway celebrating, saying we missed seeing history. But what we saw was history of a better kind.
 

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For those with mlb.tv and a little free time, it's very worthwhile to listen to the last two half innings on all four broadcasts...NESN, YES, WEEI, and WFAN. They're all fantastic in their own way.
Had watched both the TV broadcasts. Now listening to the radio broadcasts. The WFAN one is really enjoyable, with Suzyn saying of Boone, a little figure walking out of the dugout.
 

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Rewatching it one more time...there's an awesome moment right after the Sox tie the game where they show Sawamura and Arroyo both going crazy, shouting and cheering. Both on the IL but 100% into the game.
 

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Had watched both the TV broadcasts. Now listening to the radio broadcasts. The WFAN one is really enjoyable, with Suzyn saying of Boone, a little figure walking out of the dugout.
That comment about Boone cracked me up too. Of the four, I think the WEEI play by play is my favorite. Sean McDonough is really, really good at channeling the energy of each moment (with occasional fun comments from Castiglione, who I'll always love).
 

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I watched the Mother's Day Miracle live, and today too I kept watching, hoping against hope, that the Red Sox would break through. I really do love baseball for its ability to turn a game on a whim. No clock, no way out. You either kick the other team in the nuts, or have to let them do it to you.
 

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That comment about Boone cracked me up too. Of the four, I think the WEEI play by play is my favorite. Sean McDonough is really, really good at channeling the energy of each moment (with occasional fun comments from Castiglione, who I'll always love).
The WEEI one really channels the energy of the crowd the best, followed by the YES one. The NESN one is my favorite of the bunch, as the visuals are truly better than any description given of the action. The radio broadcasts are nice, but miss little details like Kike hugging the umpire on his way to the dugout.
 
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The WEEI one really channels the energy of the crowd the best, followed by the YES one. The NESN one is my favorite of the bunch, as the visuals are truly better than any description given of the action. The radio broadcasts are nice, but miss little details like Kike hugging the umpire on his way to the dugout.
Something I noticed re-watching is that both NESN and YES used the same TV feed. Different graphics for each, of course, but I wonder if they just had the TBS crew (was the game on TBS?) as a single film crew and each RSN used the same video? Just interesting and only noticeable if you watch each feed.
 

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Wasn't the "hug" accidental as the ump was very close, to see the play at the plate, and KH ran into him from the momentum of rising up from the slide? I didn't see the game, but that played all night on Quick Pitch (mlbn).
Yes, it was a hug of the "don't want to knock you on your back-side" variety.
 

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I think the Mother's Day Miracle of 2007 deserves a mention (even though I'd rank these two wins over the Yankees above it):
https://www.mlb.com/redsox/video/the-mother-s-day-miracle-c20046311
What I remember about the Mueller walkoff homer game (besides the fight) was Rivera coming in during inning 8 and Joe C from then on calling the game like he just got a call from Mrs. C saying his dog died. Completely resigned to defeat. Until the homer, of course.
 

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That comment about Boone cracked me up too. Of the four, I think the WEEI play by play is my favorite. Sean McDonough is really, really good at channeling the energy of each moment (with occasional fun comments from Castiglione, who I'll always love).
I liked where she said, about Ronald Torreyes, "all he did was get on base and play flawless defense."

Torreyes had an OBP of .308 for NYY.
 

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Not Crawford -- it was Carl Everett, and it wasn't just a no-no, it was a perfecto. Shank complained about Fenway celebrating, saying we missed seeing history. But what we saw was history of a better kind.
Yup, remember it vividly. Watched it at a little bar called Pepe’s, which was just beyond left field at Wahconah park in Pittsfield. Had gone up to watch the last game of the season for the Astros A affiliate that played there at the time, and stopped into Pepe’s to catch most of it after the Pittsfield game. It was a great duel to watch, and Cone pitched his ass off as well. The bar was a big Yankee fan hangout, so it was extra delicious when Jurassic Carl got the hit. Despite ultimately losing the game. A couple of footnotes: the game also occurred during Joe Kerrigan’s brief reign of terror. And lastly, not to get all poetic, but it was a beautiful, late summer night in the Berkshires, with a touch of autumn in the air. They let all the kids in the stands for the Pitt-stros game run the bases after the game. I remember at the time thinking it was a perfect, slightly melancholy, symbolic end to the summer………….Then a week later the world ended, and that night really felt like the symbolic end of something.
 

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Yup, remember it vividly. Watched it at a little bar called Pepe’s, which was just beyond left field at Wahconah park in Pittsfield. Had gone up to watch the last game of the season for the Astros A affiliate that played there at the time, and stopped into Pepe’s to catch most of it after the Pittsfield game. It was a great duel to watch, and Cone pitched his ass off as well. The bar was a big Yankee fan hangout, so it was extra delicious when Jurassic Carl got the hit. Despite ultimately losing the game. A couple of footnotes: the game also occurred during Joe Kerrigan’s brief reign of terror. And lastly, not to get all poetic, but it was a beautiful, late summer night in the Berkshires, with a touch of autumn in the air. They let all the kids in the stands for the Pitt-stros game run the bases after the game. I remember at the time thinking it was a perfect, slightly melancholy, symbolic end to the summer………….Then a week later the world ended, and that night really felt like the symbolic end of something.
Wasn't that also the night of some sort of John Cumberland drama?
 

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That comment about Boone cracked me up too. Of the four, I think the WEEI play by play is my favorite. Sean McDonough is really, really good at channeling the energy of each moment (with occasional fun comments from Castiglione, who I'll always love).
How do you listen to these? My mlb app only lets me replay video
 

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I think the Mother's Day Miracle of 2007 deserves a mention (even though I'd rank these two wins over the Yankees above it):
https://www.mlb.com/redsox/video/the-mother-s-day-miracle-c20046311
The Fenway Opening Day comeback vs. the Mariners in 1998 should also be in there. Messrs. Slocumb, Fossas, and Timlin in the 9th to close out the win for Randy Johnson (allowed 2 hits through 8 IP). They don't even retire a batter. Mo Vaughn with the walkoff grand slam off Spoljaric.
 

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How do you listen to these? My mlb app only lets me replay video
I don't use my phone or the mlb app for games, only a laptop or desktop. With mlb.tv there's a "broadcast" option at the bottom which lets you choose the home / away tv broadcast along with options below it for radio audio overlay.
 

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I meant Everett. Had a brain freeze.
Triggered by the Ice Age no doubt.

I was watching that 2001 Mussina-Cone game in a New York restaurant with a friend who hates sports and almost died of a panic attack when I shouted after Everett got that hit. There was a great Simmons article about that game that kind of summarized how pathetic it kind of was that we Red Sox fans were so elated simply to not be on the other end of a NYY perfecto.

Fast forward twenty years and the rivalry—in particular which team fields the scrubs and which fan base expects to lose the heartbreakers—has almost completely flipped.
 

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Something I noticed re-watching is that both NESN and YES used the same TV feed. Different graphics for each, of course, but I wonder if they just had the TBS crew (was the game on TBS?) as a single film crew and each RSN used the same video? Just interesting and only noticeable if you watch each feed.
They've done that the last couple years because the visiting team's crew isn't coming for the trip. Announcers are calling remotely and no production people are there at all.

I'm not sure it's ever going back the other way even after the pandemic. The broadcast crew seems to like not having to travel and it saves the network a ton of money.
 

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Found a youtube video of the 7/24/04 Mueller walk-off game and rewatched parts of it. A few things I found interesting:

1. Varitek was the number 2 hitter (before being ejected). I didn't remember him ever batting there in the lineup.

2. Ramiro Mendoza was the winning pitcher

3. Joe Buck and Tim McCarver were calling the game...in the 9th inning Kevin Millar got a run-scoring single to cut the deficit to 10-9. While on first base with Rivera on the mound, Joe Buck commented how the Red Sox didn't have anyone with speed on the bench to pinch run for Millar as the potential tying run. I think they eventually got a guy who could do that...
July 24th is my birthday.. I much prefer that year’s ending to this year’s.
 

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I hate to see that shit - a kid being rushed to the bigs and expected to be the savior. Remember what happened to Bobby Sprowl. One of the things I disliked about Dombrowski was his tendency to promote people directly from AA. I'm an old fashioned type that thinks everybody should spend a least some time at each of the tree levels of the minors, even if it is only a couple of months.
"This kid's got ice water in his veins"; turns out he did not.

Imagine staring him with basically the season on the line vs the Yankees.

Fucking Zimmer.
 

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i sent the bat signal, but just in case, the starting lineup has a noticeable absence

1. Enrique Hernandez (R) SS
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Jarren Duran (L) CF
3. J.D. Martinez (R) DH
4. Rafael Devers (L) 3B
5. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
6. Alex Verdugo (L) LF
7. Christian Vazquez (R) C
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Franchy Cordero (L) 1B
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Michael Chavis (R) 2B
There was some real-time speculation on the radio yesterday that X might have dinged his already dinged wrist on the NYY 9th inning steal yesterday.
Or they're trading him.
 

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There was some real-time speculation on the radio yesterday that X might have dinged his already dinged wrist on the NYY 9th inning steal yesterday.
Or they're trading him.
Even on the sac fly he looked hurt
 

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If @mfried doesn't start a new thread by what time will someone (I nominate @E5 Yaz ) start one with the right team, time, etc?
Sox in Two is on now, in case anyone else missed chunks of the game. I am planning to watch in about an hour, to try to catch what I infer was a bad play by Duran and the marvelous hitting by the Red Sox. Or the terrible relief pitching/management of the NYY.
 

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Triggered by the Ice Age no doubt.

I was watching that 2001 Mussina-Cone game in a New York restaurant with a friend who hates sports and almost died of a panic attack when I shouted after Everett got that hit. There was a great Simmons article about that game that kind of summarized how pathetic it kind of was that we Red Sox fans were so elated simply to not be on the other end of a NYY perfecto.

Fast forward twenty years and the rivalry—in particular which team fields the scrubs and which fan base expects to lose the heartbreakers—has almost completely flipped.
If I was at the game I would have rooted for a No Hitter/Perfect game. The Sox were out of it and I would love to see a no hitter which I haven't seen. Don't call me a traitor, a lot of fans would have secretly rooted for it. Mussina got a nice standing ovation by the fans after the game ended. Speaking of Perfect games/no hitters members of my family have been at both post season no hitters/perfect games. My Grandparents were at Larsen's perfect game in 56 WS, and my nephew was at Roy Halladays no no against the Reds in 2010 NLDS in Philly. True story.
 

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If I was at the game I would have rooted for a No Hitter/Perfect game. The Sox were out of it and I would love to see a no hitter which I haven't seen. Don't call me a traitor, a lot of fans would have secretly rooted for it. Mussina got a nice standing ovation by the fans after the game ended. Speaking of Perfect games/no hitters members of my family have been at both post season no hitters/perfect games. My Grandparents were at Larsen's perfect game in 56 WS, and my nephew was at Roy Halladays no no against the Reds in 2010 NLDS in Philly. True story.
Traitor.
 

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Seriously. On September 2, 2001 the Yankees had won 4 of 5 titles and were 8 games ahead in first place. They were close but not yet at peak insufferability; history would push them up that mountain over the next three months. How any red-blooded Red Sox fan could possibly be rooting for more humiliation for their team and more hagiography and apotheosis for the MFY, is astonishing….ly gross. Aberrant. Ahistorical. Traitorous.

I think it used to be said around here that it was bad form to root for injuries to the opponent, but that you could be glad when they happened. Same concept applies here. You can’t possibly wish the MFY would win, any game at any time. If the consequence of their victory is positive for the Red Sox, then fine. But that sentiment is only appropriate ex post facto.
 

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Seriously. On September 2, 2001 the Yankees had won 4 of 5 titles and were 8 games ahead in first place. They were close but not yet at peak insufferability; history would push them up that mountain over the next three months. How any red-blooded Red Sox fan could possibly be rooting for more humiliation for their team and more hagiography and apotheosis for the MFY, is astonishing….ly gross. Aberrant. Ahistorical. Traitorous.

I think it used to be said around here that it was bad form to root for injuries to the opponent, but that you could be glad when they happened. Same concept applies here. You can’t possibly wish the MFY would win, any game at any time. If the consequence of their victory is positive for the Red Sox, then fine. But that sentiment is only appropriate ex post facto.
I could have sworn the Sox were further out, not 8 games. My mistake.
 

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That being said, once Everett got the hit, then I root for the Sox comeback. Remember that's only if I was there. On tV or radio, of course I root against it.
You needn’t justify yourself to me, but rooting for your team normally means just that. Breaking up a no hitter or spoiling another teams post season berth is a small victory, but these marginal goals are what true fans root for in the dog years. A certain generation of Sox fans are more conversant with those more modest goals than collecting personal experiences at the team’s expense so they can brag about attendance after the fact.

Honestly, I’d rather watch a Sox-Yanks game with a knowledgeable Yankees fan than a fair weather Sox supporter.
 

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You needn’t justify yourself to me, but rooting for your team normally means just that. Breaking up a no hitter or spoiling another teams post season berth is a small victory, but these marginal goals are what true fans root for in the dog years. A certain generation of Sox fans are more conversant with those more modest goals than collecting personal experiences at the team’s expense so they can brag about attendance after the fact.

Honestly, I’d rather watch a Sox-Yanks game with a knowledgeable Yankees fan than a fair weather Sox supporter.
I've been a fan since 1965. They were 62-100. Anyway I was just wondering also is Righetti's no hitter on July 4th 1983 the last time the Yanks no hit the Sox?