6/24: Sanchez vs. Sabathia

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The main thing to me is Sanchez got into shape this year. He looks trimmer. Played through two injuries last year. This is the Sanchez the Yanks were hoping to get.
This is all true, but in addition there has pretty clearly been a philosophical change where he worries less about stealing borderline pitches and more about making sure he catches everything. I find this fascinating because the perception is that it is an improvement but it may actually be worse for the team, but still they have decided it is the way to go (and I fully get it).

Hicks was so due, he has been crushing balls just foul for a few days now including earlier that same AB. And always nice to see Stanton put one into orbit, I would like to know what he was muttering to himself as he rounded the bases...
 

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If Holder can finish this and allow them to stay away from Ottavino/Britton/Chapman, that would let them use those guys both Tues/Wed (1 PM) if needed, with travel days before London on Thurs/Fri.
 

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This guy not only has options but as detailed, there are at least three guys currently more deserving in the Scranton bullpen. Come on already.
 

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This guy not only has options but as detailed, there are at least three guys currently more deserving in the Scranton bullpen. Come on already.
This is the clincher tonight for Holder. He has to go down for his own good.

Ump just missed an 0-2 pitch. Next pitch is another base hit. Chad Green warming.
 

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Green in, I am guessing this means he doesn't open tomorrow so Cortes Jr can start his own game for once maybe.
 

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I'm wondering if the YS guns are a mile or so juiced, but nice to see Green back at 98.
 

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I don't understand why he is still on the team. It's not just a recent run of sucking. It's been going on for eons.
 

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Ottavino just toyed with Gurriel, he is such a pleasure to watch. First pitch FB high and inside that Gurriel fouls off because he doesn't want to have to hit the slider later in the count, then he expects Ottavino to try to make him chase and Ottavino just throws a curve and a FB for strikes, Gurriel can't pull the trigger on either, inning over.
 

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If this is the final straw for Holder at long last, it was worth the nail-biting he caused.
 

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Batters are 0-16 with 12 Ks against Ottavino with two outs and RISP this season.
 

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I think Stroman would be a great fit for NY but if it happens, I really hope it doesn't involve Clint Frazier as I don't need to see him mashing NY for 19 games a year. Deivi and Thairo? Love those two but might pull the trigger on that if it was a match.
 

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Holder officially sent down, no corresponding move yet. They have stretched out Tarpley to 39 and 41 pitches in his last two AAA outings, I think it will be him even though the 41 pitch outing was Saturday (so two days rest before tomorrow).
 

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Some numbers from the YES stats guy (James Smyth) on Twitter about what I was talking about last night with Sanchez's defense:

"Sanchez is above-average at blocking this year, but is having his worst defensive season by far because his framing has plummeted (-7.4 runs, 89th of 92 MLB C). Hopefully a blip. I'm glad Cashman noted that blocking is the least important part of catching."

"The passed-balls frenzy could've made Sanchez a worse defender if blocking came at the cost of framing. Sanchez has given back as many runs in less than half a season just from framing (-7.4 runs) as the poor blocking in all of 2017 and 2018 combined (-7.4)."
 

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If they ever implement robot umps to call balls and strikes, it'll be interesting how framing stats will have only had a brief moment of relevance given the few years data has been available to make it meaningful. It's a data point that may eventually be the cause of its own undoing (as well as the undoing of the underlying catcher skill), in a way.
 

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If they ever implement robot umps to call balls and strikes, it'll be interesting how framing stats will have only had a brief moment of relevance given the few years data has been available to make it meaningful. It's a data point that may eventually be the cause of its own undoing (as well as the undoing of the underlying catcher skill), in a way.
This is a good point, but it's also worth noting that the skill has always been there, just not an ability to measure it until recently.
 

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Chad Green opening tonight, I believe the first time this year he will go in back to back games. Where are you, Jess @Brand Name?
 

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Chad Green opening tonight, I believe the first time this year he will go in back to back games. Where are you, Jess @Brand Name?
Just read a lengthy SI piece on A-Rod. He always showed up for games hours ahead of time. Torre finally ordered him not to appear in the clubhouse until an hour before the game, fearing he was wearing himself out.
Moral of story: Brand Name is no A-Rod!

 

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"The passed-balls frenzy could've made Sanchez a worse defender if blocking came at the cost of framing. Sanchez has given back as many runs in less than half a season just from framing (-7.4 runs) as the poor blocking in all of 2017 and 2018 combined (-7.4)."
That's interesting. I wonder how noisy framing stats are. I'm not questioning the potential for a link between better blocking at the expense of framing, I just wonder how it could work.

I suppose what an ump sees regarding a framed pitch could be as much about how a catcher shifts his body in anticipation of a pitch (or not) as it does his hands, but I've always made sort of a glib assumption that it was all about hands.

Still body + good hands = good framing?
Shifting body + good hands = bad framing?

Regardless, I'd rather see Sanchez block balls, even if it is overall worse for his catching. Reason being, I really think the pressure from outwardly bad catching with all the accompanying media attention about it was terrible for Sanchez's mental game and impacted him at the plate. If his framing isn't as good, well, it sucks, but at least that isn't a problem obvious to God and everyone as it happens in real time.

I want him free and easy at the plate.
 

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I think it’s about mitt position, you catch it more in the edge of the mitt if you’re trying to steal strikes and that’s how seemingly very catchable balls get by sometimes.
 

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That's interesting. I wonder how noisy framing stats are. I'm not questioning the potential for a link between better blocking at the expense of framing, I just wonder how it could work.

I suppose what an ump sees regarding a framed pitch could be as much about how a catcher shifts his body in anticipation of a pitch (or not) as it does his hands, but I've always made sort of a glib assumption that it was all about hands.

Still body + good hands = good framing?
Shifting body + good hands = bad framing?

Regardless, I'd rather see Sanchez block balls, even if it is overall worse for his catching. Reason being, I really think the pressure from outwardly bad catching with all the accompanying media attention about it was terrible for Sanchez's mental game and impacted him at the plate. If his framing isn't as good, well, it sucks, but at least that isn't a problem obvious to God and everyone as it happens in real time.

I want him free and easy at the plate.
Sanchez’s 2019 defense should have its own thread. I agree with EE. Blocking pitches has a big impact on games, easily seen. Sending Jeff Gray to Cincy helped because he seemed to lead the league in 58-foot pitches. Framing pitches is obviously a great asset. How do you measure it with regards to team performance? The AL average for walks this season is 260. Yanks have walked 239.