6/23: The Verlander test

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Now we see the Yankees offense against a quality power pitcher. Justin Verlander is 9-3 with an 0.74 WHIP this season. When sharp, he throws strikes, pinpointing his fastball and curve. You can’t work the count when he’s at his best. Today is Justin’s fourth start in search of win No. 10 and he did yield three home runs in each of his last two starts.
Among Yankee hitters vs. Verlander, only Didi (5-for-12) has good numbers. Judge is 2-for-8 with a homer. Encarnacion is batting .132 in 38 ABs.
Yanks will counter with J.A. Happ, who is putting together a sneaky good season, which happens when you’re pitching for a juggernaut. The lefty is 7-3 and Yanks have won seven of the last eight games Happ has started.
By all logic, the 8-game winning streak should end today. This hot spell, coming off a three-game losing streak, has solidified NY’s hold on first place in the East. Tampa has fallen 6 back in the loss column. Boston is now 9 behind in the loss column. The Sox have won 8 of 10 and gained no ground.
We all know Boston will make a sustained run at some point. The Sox will get a chance next weekend in London. How weird is that?
Game time is 2:05, roughly. This is Old-Timers Day. No. 73.
 
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This has been NY's kryptonite, the hardest throwing righty power pitchers. Verlander, Eovaldi, maybe Glasnow, maybe Cole, Joe Kelly last year. They will need to figure out a way to deal with them to get where they are hoping to go.
 

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Here's the Yankees lineup:

Brett Gardner CF
Luke Voit 1B
Gleyber Torres SS
Clint Frazier LF
Mike Tauchman RF
Mike Ford DH
Gio Urshela 3B
Kyle Higashioka C
Tyler Wade 2B
J.A. Happ P


...this actually happened exactly two months ago versus the Angels. And the Yankees won! Granted, Verlander is not Matt Harvey. But still, let's not get too hung up on this game. :D
 

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This has been NY's kryptonite, the hardest throwing righty power pitchers. Verlander, Eovaldi, maybe Glasnow, maybe Cole, Joe Kelly last year. They will need to figure out a way to deal with them to get where they are hoping to go.
As you said last night, the outcome isn’t important but Yanks need to make some inroads with Verlander.
 

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As you said last night, the outcome isn’t important but Yanks need to make some inroads with Verlander.
I would love to see this happen. Before he was traded from Detroit, I admit I thought he was done. Wow has he proved me wrong: you couldn't ask for a better flagship starter. Let's hope that the withering fire from the Yankees First Team artillery tears him to shreds.
 

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I would love to see this happen. Before he was traded from Detroit, I admit I thought he was done. Wow has he proved me wrong: you couldn't ask for a better flagship starter. Let's hope that the withering fire from the Yankees First Team artillery tears him to shreds.
I worked in artillery for two years. No way the Yankee offense can match the big guns. But a couple long blasts might throw Verlander off his game.
 

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The pitchers available part of the Old-Timers card here is pretty funny:

 

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I don't usually watch Old-Timer's Day, but I am curious to see Mariano specifically.
 

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Heh, would likely be an upgrade also.

NY made their Maybin transaction this AM, putting him on the DL and bringing back Cortes Jr, presumably for the Tuesday start. Also Maybin seems like a pretty awesome/funny guy, here's a quote from today:

"He says he hopes he'll beat the expected recovery timeline (loosely projected at 6 weeks) because "people from the South heal faster.""
 

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Heh, would likely be an upgrade also.

NY made their Maybin transaction this AM, putting him on the DL and bringing back Cortes Jr, presumably for the Tuesday start. Also Maybin seems like a pretty awesome/funny guy, here's a quote from today:

"He says he hopes he'll beat the expected recovery timeline (loosely projected at 6 weeks) because "people from the South heal faster.""
Ramiro Mendoza looks in playing shape, too!
 

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Pitcher wins are stupid as discussed again last night, but still impressive that David Wells had 68 wins in his only 4 seasons in NY.
 

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I don't think I can find a pirate feed of the Old Timer's game, I see our last 2 links to the iconic teams of our youth Terry will both be present: Whitey looked very frail last year (he's 90), otoh Mr. Perfect is only a year younger and he looked pretty good....
 

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I don't think I can find a pirate feed of the Old Timer's game, I see our last 2 links to the iconic teams of our youth Terry will both be present: Whitey looked very frail last year (he's 90), otoh Mr. Perfect is only a year younger and he looked pretty good....
They just brought out Larsen, he was in a wheelchair and got a big hand for switching to a walker and finishing the trip on his own.
 

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My wife and I are bummed that Hideki Matsui doesn't seem to be participating this year, he ran a clinic in Pennsylvania yesterday so he is around, too bad.
 

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I don't think I can find a pirate feed of the Old Timer's game, I see our last 2 links to the iconic teams of our youth Terry will both be present: Whitey looked very frail last year (he's 90), otoh Mr. Perfect is only a year younger and he looked pretty good....
Whitey isn't there, they said he wasn't up to the trip, but they just gave him a whole intro.
 

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And Roger Clemens is still persona non grata, even though he was inducted into the PawSox HOF on Friday night and could easily have made it to NYC.

The roots of the snub run deep. Signing with Houston after 2003 season and taking Pettitte with him. Including Pettitte in lawsuits. (Did Andy testify against him?)
Boston seems to have forgiven Clemens but not the Yankees.
 

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Coup, Hector López trotted on to the field. Reggie said that impressed him the most. Hector is close to 90. Looks trim in his uniform. Al Downing, much younger, also there from the 1961 team.
Cone is the pitcher everyone wants to bat against because he will ask them where they want it and come close to doing it.
 

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And Roger Clemens is still persona non grata, even though he was inducted into the PawSox HOF on Friday night and could easily have made it to NYC.

The roots of the snub run deep. Signing with Houston after 2003 season and taking Pettitte with him. Including Pettitte in lawsuits. (Did Andy testify against him?)
Boston seems to have forgiven Clemens but not the Yankees.
ehh, forgiveness is a 2 way street, not sure we know the whole story. What disturbs me more is the who just bought YES... mostly the Yankees bought it back from Disney, partnering with Amazon...but it's the 3rd partner I cannot abide: Sinclair, whose agenda makes Fox look like raving libtards...
 

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ehh, forgiveness is a 2 way street, not sure we know the whole story. What disturbs me more is the who just bought YES... mostly the Yankees bought it back from Disney, partnering with Amazon...but it's the 3rd partner I cannot abide: Sinclair, whose agenda makes Fox look like raving libtards...
Yeah, I've been trying to forget this happened as it's tough to live with.
 

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Mariano is throwing 85 mph. They brought him in to face ONeill, who gets sawed off on first pitch.

Cessa is packing his bags in the clubhouse.
 

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ehh, forgiveness is a 2 way street, not sure we know the whole story. What disturbs me more is the who just bought YES... mostly the Yankees bought it back from Disney, partnering with Amazon...but it's the 3rd partner I cannot abide: Sinclair, whose agenda makes Fox look like raving libtards...
I have read a little on YES expansion. Are they going into radio? Seems like Buck Showalter might join the TV rotation.
 

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When the sons of players you remember (Jerry Hairston Jr) are in the Old Timer's game, you are old.
 

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He cruises over to grab a fly ball, NY can activate him as the 5th OF/bullpen option.
 

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He cruises over to grab a fly ball, NY can activate him as the 5th OF/bullpen option.
Great value!
I bet the Astros are amazed at Mo’s athleticism. But I am more impressed with Mickey Rivers, at 71, playing two innings in left and throw the ball almost all the way into third.
 

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Great value!
I bet the Astros are amazed at Mo’s athleticism. But I am more impressed with Mickey Rivers, at 71, playing two innings in left and throw the ball almost all the way into third.
He ripped a base hit also. Still a bit quick!
 

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First Old-Timers game I have watched in a few years. Lot of memories. In my youth, they always introduced the widows of Ruth and Gehrig. Now they do a nice thing by sitting the widows of Munson, Murcer, Stottlemyre, et al in middle of field with players seated on both sides.

Mariano coming up to hit. I guess Cooperstown will be packed next month. So popular. Bobby Orr is that way in New England. All class.

Mariano just hit an inside-the-Park homer up the gap in right-center.
 

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Another non-participant is Jeter, for a few reasons, not the least his testy relationship with Cashman. Michael Kay says Jeter is one of those guys who does not like to play in exhibitions.

Rivera pitching the final inning, lobbing some balls. Gets Bernie to hit into a DP.
 

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Another non-participant is Jeter, for a few reasons, not the least his testy relationship with Cashman. Michael Kay says Jeter is one of those guys who does not like to play in exhibitions.

Rivera pitching the final inning, lobbing some balls. Gets Bernie to hit into a DP.
LOL, re: Jeter, everyone involved still has too much testosterone in their veins, not to mention his involvement in a ...putative... competitior. When all are older and more irrelevant he will appear I'm sure...
 

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LOL, re: Jeter, everyone involved still has too much testosterone in their veins, not to mention his involvement in a ...putative... competitior. When all are older and more irrelevant he will appear I'm sure...
And he will still have the same range to his left... :)
 

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Pretty pessimistic this streak will continue today with Happ out there but impressive it's gotten to 8:

During their 8-game winning streak, the Yankees have had their starter allow 2 runs or fewer in every game. Their longest streaks since 1920 from @StatsBySTATS:

10 1968
10 1997
9 1954
9 1969
9 1978
9 1998
9 2017-18
8 9x, including active streak
 

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LOL, re: Jeter, everyone involved still has too much testosterone in their veins, not to mention his involvement in a ...putative... competitior. When all are older and more irrelevant he will appear I'm sure...
Not sure Jeter will age gracefully as a human being. He is already bypassing this yearly weekend with his “brothers” to do whatever it is he does in Miami. Is he a beloved Yankee? That’s a tough one. DiMaggio was aloof but he always came back for the O-T weekend. He just had one order: I will only attend if Yankees introduced him last.
 

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Not sure Jeter will age gracefully as a human being. He is already bypassing this yearly weekend with his “brothers” to do whatever it is he does in Miami. Is he a beloved Yankee? That’s a tough one. DiMaggio was aloof but he always came back for the O-T weekend. He just had one order: I will only attend if Yankees introduced him last.
and, I believe, must be introduced as 'the greatest living ballplayer'. Apparently bedding Monroe increases ones egocentrism...
 

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and, I believe, must be introduced as 'the greatest living ballplayer'. Apparently bedding Monroe increases ones egocentrism...
The vote for Greatest Living Player was nonsense. I think that was timed for the Centennial celebration.

Altuve leads off with a homer!
 

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The vote for Greatest Living Player was nonsense. I think that was timed for the Centennial celebration.

Altuve leads off with a homer!
He was insisting on that intro for all appearances even before then and since Willie is still alive it was always BS, I guess that something accurate like 'greatest living coffee brewing appliance salesman', while accurate, just didn't have the right ring to him....
 

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He was insisting on that intro for all appearances even before then and since Willie is still alive it was always BS, I guess that something accurate like 'greatest living coffee brewing appliance salesman', while accurate, just didn't have the right ring to him....
Interesting story below from Joe Posnanski on the greatest living nonsense.