5/4/18 -- Lightning at Bruins, G4

edmunddantes

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 28, 2015
4,737
Cali
Oh get off it. They were already overcoming bad calls and non calls to be ahead 3-2 at that point.


“Well bob if they just overcame the bad call they would have been fine. “

They did. All night.
 

lars10

Well-Known Member
Silver Supporter
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2007
5,213
But as flawless said. There was plenty of time after that to overcome and they didn’t.
But why should they f’ing have to!!! Why does the onus fall on the team to constantly come back from horrible call after horrible call? Tampa can still be a great team, but the margins are so slim to win these games that when you’re either constantly short handed or not getting blatant calls at some point you have to say that you need to look at the officiating. A team can only overcome so much., yes they had seven minutes but the game should’ve never been tied and the Bs should’ve had a power play.

Stop saying the bruins should overcome that.. they could have, but they also shouldn’t have to against the top team in the east! Ffs.
 

Haunted

The Man in the Box
Silver Supporter
SoSH Member
Aug 23, 2006
3,137
Why should they have to? Because life is never fair. Jesus guys. Get a grip. Champions overcome this garbage. You think the 2011 team didn’t run into some insane Montreal bullshit?
 

Deathofthebambino

Drive Carefully
SoSH Member
Apr 12, 2005
30,186
Why should they have to? Because life is never fair. Jesus guys. Get a grip. Champions overcome this garbage. You think the 2011 team didn’t run into some insane Montreal bullshit?
They did overcome it. Jesus Christ. They scored a shorthanded goal to take the lead at 3-2 on a penalty that was absolutely fucking ridiculous. They maintained that lead, and with 7 minutes to go, they should have gone on a power play that may have sealed the fucking game. Instead, the refs don't make a call that even the national pundits are saying was obvious, and instead of being on a power play with all the momentum, they end up tied.

How much more do you expect "champions" to overcome?

I can't even wrap my head around this nonsense. I'll ask it again. At what fucking point do you think it would have been too much to overcome? If the refs handed Tampa a goal with 3 minutes, 1 minute? 10 seconds? How easy do you think it is to score a goal in the NHL playoffs?

And no, I don't remember the refs handing Montreal a game tying goal with 7 minutes left, when they should have been awarding the Bruins a power play. I don't remember the refs giving Montreal a double minor for high sticking when a Montreal player hit himself in the face. I don't remember a Montreal player hooking the shit out of Marchand on a breakaway and not having it called. I don't remember the "slash" they called against Krug happening in Montreal. I don't remember the refs tossing Bergeron out of one faceoff after another against Montreal. I don't remember Montreal having almost double the number of power plays through 5 games. It just goes on and on and on. The Bruins and Lightning have been officiated completely differently since the drop of the puck in game 2.
 

kenneycb

Hates Goose Island Beer; Loves Backdoor Play
SoSH Member
Dec 2, 2006
12,547
Tuukka's refugee camp
The goal that Subban scored to tie it was a BS penalty from my memory. Don’t care to look it up but remember being pissed about it.
 

scottyno

Member
SoSH Member
Dec 7, 2008
4,748
It just goes on and on and on. The Bruins and Lightning have been officiated completely differently since the drop of the puck in game 2.
Game 1 too, it didn't matter because the Bs blew them out but the refs probably caused a 2 goal swing tampa's way early on.
 

edmunddantes

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 28, 2015
4,737
Cali
They did overcome it. Jesus Christ. They scored a shorthanded goal to take the lead at 3-2 on a penalty that was absolutely fucking ridiculous. They maintained that lead, and with 7 minutes to go, they should have gone on a power play that may have sealed the fucking game. Instead, the refs don't make a call that even the national pundits are saying was obvious, and instead of being on a power play with all the momentum, they end up tied.

How much more do you expect "champions" to overcome?

I can't even wrap my head around this nonsense. I'll ask it again. At what fucking point do you think it would have been too much to overcome? If the refs handed Tampa a goal with 3 minutes, 1 minute? 10 seconds? How easy do you think it is to score a goal in the NHL playoffs?

And no, I don't remember the refs handing Montreal a game tying goal with 7 minutes left, when they should have been awarding the Bruins a power play. I don't remember the refs giving Montreal a double minor for high sticking when a Montreal player hit himself in the face. I don't remember a Montreal player hooking the shit out of Marchand on a breakaway and not having it called. I don't remember the "slash" they called against Krug happening in Montreal. I don't remember the refs tossing Bergeron out of one faceoff after another against Montreal. I don't remember Montreal having almost double the number of power plays through 5 games. It just goes on and on and on. The Bruins and Lightning have been officiated completely differently since the drop of the puck in game 2.
Also missed a high stick to the face of the tallest man on the ice right in front of the Ref that the national pundits called in real time. Than questioned themselves when there was no call until they watched the replay. And they just laughed because it was so fucking absurd it was missed.
 

Haunted

The Man in the Box
Silver Supporter
SoSH Member
Aug 23, 2006
3,137
You’re right. Poor play and turnover after turnover have nothing to do with it. It’s all the refs fault. It’s all over. Don’t even play game 5, the league has spoken.
 

BaseballJones

goalpost mover
SoSH Member
Oct 1, 2015
5,285
Even the shorthanded goal that Bergeron scored to give them the lead came on a Tampa PP thanks to a horrendous call that again, the national announcers were like WTF?
 

Jed Zeppelin

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 23, 2008
34,820
Not to say anything of the power play Boston would have gotten that would have most likely killed two minutes as well.
Underrated aspect of the play. In a similar situation, Tampa was given a four minute power play at a crucial time when their own player high sticked himself. Extra energy expended to kill it off, less time to tie it up. All this shit adds up.
 

wiffleballhero

Member
SoSH Member
Mar 28, 2009
1,462
In the simulacrum
They are most definitely getting screwed by the refs. Whether it is malice, incompetence or a reasonable pre-disposition against the Bruins leading to unreasonable calls is another issue.

The idea though that the Bruins should just be gritty and play is a little crazy.

TB is actually a really, really good team. They are also pretty F-ing big. If the Bruins are skating every shift worried about getting a penalty like Acciari's and TB can skate around grabbing and slashing with impunity, the regular flow of play is impacted.

I hope the fix really is on so at least the refs will give us some calls to get this to game 7.

(Maybe I am starting to see the appeal of WWE)
 

Dummy Hoy

Angry Pissbum
SoSH Member
Jul 22, 2006
6,039
Falmouth
I don’t understand why we can’t agree that all of the following apply:

1) Tampa is a really good team, one of the favorites to win the Cup, who went all in at the deadline in an effort to win this season. Great coach, elites players up front and on D, tremendous depth. They are a very tough team to beat when they are healthy and rested.

2) The Bruins have not played very well for the majority of this series. They have a few players who have significant injuries they’re battling through, and they’ve struggled as a team to avoid mistakes- lot of bad decisions and turnovers.

3) The officiating has been maddeningly inconsistent, and the majority of crucial calls have gone against the Bruins- to the point that milquetoast national announcers have spoken out against it. Last nights game conatianed a couple of egregious decisions that were a major factor in Tampa’s win.

All of these things are true, and together it creates a giant pile of suck.
 

Boston Brawler

Member
SoSH Member
Jan 17, 2011
8,879
I don’t understand why we can’t agree that all of the following apply:

1) Tampa is a really good team, one of the favorites to win the Cup, who went all in at the deadline in an effort to win this season. Great coach, elites players up front and on D, tremendous depth. They are a very tough team to beat when they are healthy and rested.

2) The Bruins have not played very well for the majority of this series. They have a few players who have significant injuries they’re battling through, and they’ve struggled as a team to avoid mistakes- lot of bad decisions and turnovers.

3) The officiating has been maddeningly inconsistent, and the majority of crucial calls have gone against the Bruins- to the point that milquetoast national announcers have spoken out against it. Last nights game conatianed a couple of egregious decisions that were a major factor in Tampa’s win.

All of these things are true, and together it creates a giant pile of suck.
This is a good post. Agree 100%
 

PedroSpecialK

Comes at you like a tornado of hair and the NHL sa
SoSH Member
Dec 12, 2004
24,426
Cambridge, MA
I had to miss last night's game but holy hell, the non-call on the tying goal was egregious given what's been called in this series.

1-0 in day games this series, people. Get it back to Boston.
 

lars10

Well-Known Member
Silver Supporter
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2007
5,213
I don’t understand why we can’t agree that all of the following apply:

1) Tampa is a really good team, one of the favorites to win the Cup, who went all in at the deadline in an effort to win this season. Great coach, elites players up front and on D, tremendous depth. They are a very tough team to beat when they are healthy and rested.

2) The Bruins have not played very well for the majority of this series. They have a few players who have significant injuries they’re battling through, and they’ve struggled as a team to avoid mistakes- lot of bad decisions and turnovers.

3) The officiating has been maddeningly inconsistent, and the majority of crucial calls have gone against the Bruins- to the point that milquetoast national announcers have spoken out against it. Last nights game conatianed a couple of egregious decisions that were a major factor in Tampa’s win.

All of these things are true, and together it creates a giant pile of suck.
Only thing I would add is it hasn’t been just one game. The calls have been one sided since game two and the slash on marchand’s hands is still fresh as well.

Edit: I mean that egregious calls have decided more than one game.

As you said even national announcers have commented on it. This isn’t the usual ‘you have to play through it’.. this has been ludicrous to the point where people are wondering if there’s a fix. It’s not homerism at this point..
 
Last edited:

AMcGhie

Set Adrift on Memory Bliss
SoSH Member
Apr 11, 2006
2,930
Portland, OR
I don’t understand why we can’t agree that all of the following apply:

1) Tampa is a really good team, one of the favorites to win the Cup, who went all in at the deadline in an effort to win this season. Great coach, elites players up front and on D, tremendous depth. They are a very tough team to beat when they are healthy and rested.

2) The Bruins have not played very well for the majority of this series. They have a few players who have significant injuries they’re battling through, and they’ve struggled as a team to avoid mistakes- lot of bad decisions and turnovers.

3) The officiating has been maddeningly inconsistent, and the majority of crucial calls have gone against the Bruins- to the point that milquetoast national announcers have spoken out against it. Last nights game conatianed a couple of egregious decisions that were a major factor in Tampa’s win.

All of these things are true, and together it creates a giant pile of suck.
I'd nitpick #2 to say that their play has been very polar. They're either dominant or being dominated for long stretches. The dominated times have been more frequent and more lengthy though.

I'd nitpick #3 to say the majority of crucial calls and calls overall have gone against the bruins.

But those are very minor. The main 3 points you have are very frustrating things to simultaneously wrestle with (because they're so spot on).
 

FL4WL3SS

Member
SoSH Member
Jul 31, 2006
10,917
Andy Brickley's potty mouth
Where is the cutoff point that makes it a call that the Bruins can't come back from? 5 minutes left? 3 minutes left? I mean, I get it, they should be expected to just snap their fingers and score a goal against the #1 team in hockey in the playoffs in 7 minutes. It was far from over. So, when is it not far from over?
My point wasn't that the Bruins had time to come back, I was responding to the assumption that they'd be tied 2-2 if only for that call. Tampa still had 7+ minutes left to tie it up. I responding to a particular poster.