4/7: No Pressure, Jameson

jon abbey

Shanghai Warrior
Dope
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
53,477
Perfect slide, Tauchman and Wade both paying off the pinch-run bigtime.
 

pokey_reese

Well-Known Member
Gold Supporter
SoSH Member
Jun 25, 2008
14,725
Eugene, OR
This 'runner on second' thing might not end up making games shorter unless it turns into sudden death.
 

jon abbey

Shanghai Warrior
Dope
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
53,477
This 'runner on second' thing might not end up making games shorter unless it turns into sudden death.
There must be numbers from last season, the games the last few nights are exceptions more than the rule, I think.
 

EvilEmpire

paying for his sins
Staff member
Dope
Gold Supporter
Apr 9, 2007
12,380
Washington
Well, that was nice at least. Get this next run in from second and just see what happens, yeah?
 

jon abbey

Shanghai Warrior
Dope
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
53,477
Gleyber is literally costing me sleep already this year. I may be counting his wild throws while laying awake.
The two in the ninth inning in this series were overthinking like Andujar when he started going badly, just make the play.
 

jon abbey

Shanghai Warrior
Dope
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
53,477
Feels like maybe they should change the rule to start a runner on first.
Yes, I was thinking this too.

It is pretty crazy that Gleyber was scheduled third with a chance for redemption and he did not get up, new baseball!
 

pokey_reese

Well-Known Member
Gold Supporter
SoSH Member
Jun 25, 2008
14,725
Eugene, OR
There must be numbers from last season, the games the last few nights are exceptions more than the rule, I think.
Granted, it doesn't account for the pitchers in extra innings specifically, but the run expectancy tables (from Tom Tango's site) for runner on second and no outs show that the probability of scoring a run is greater than .5, and the expected runs in the inning are slightly over 1, so that suggests that the expectation is that BOTH teams will on average, score a run under those conditions. Since that's a symmetrical condition, it doesn't seem likely that it would reduce the length of games.
 

terrynever

Member
SoSH Member
Aug 25, 2005
18,459
pawtucket
Abbey’s right. That was an annoying game, right down to the final play.

Maybe Boone should put Wade in for defense at short late in games. Just kidding. Never happen. But this is the way Cashman chose to roll. It’s not like this is a new thing with Gleyber at short. We saw it in 2019. And last year.

But it’s only April. Let him play a few months and then think about what to do. And get Phil Nevin and Boone to work on Gleyber’s throwing.
 

jon abbey

Shanghai Warrior
Dope
SoSH Member
Jul 15, 2005
53,477
Granted, it doesn't account for the pitchers in extra innings specifically, but the run expectancy tables (from Tom Tango's site) for runner on second and no outs show that the probability of scoring a run is greater than .5, and the expected runs in the inning are slightly over 1, so that suggests that the expectation is that BOTH teams will on average, score a run under those conditions. Since that's a symmetrical condition, it doesn't seem likely that it would reduce the length of games.
With all due respect, I don't think this sheds any light. Extra inning essentially sudden death is different by nature from the first eight innings, we saw multiple bunts tonight for one. I am certain that the variance in runs scored is greater with a runner on second to start than it is in a normal inning, but also I am certain that someone has measured the average length of an extra inning game in 2020 (albeit just a 60 game season) to that of the previous years so that we don't need to argue.