4/13 Kluber at Springs
- Thread starter Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat
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And herein lies the problem. Ownership has gotten what they wanted out of this franchise. It's sad.
I don't think the team changes their course unless the fans tune them out. They've managed to become an institution that too many patronize no matter the quality of the product.
If this continues imagine the reception at next off season's Red Sox Winter Weekend. They think they got booed last year?!
No, you're right. This all should point to a season-ending house cleaning.
Let's not forget that the Sox have won 1 game on a dropped catch by the opponent and a homer by a guy who has a broken wrist and 3 games against a team not really trying. I think they are quite possibly the worst team in the league who is trying to win this year. Unfortunate for rebuilding purposes since they will probably get the 8th pick instead of a top 3 one.
I think Bloom's plan is to be similar to what they do in Tampa.
But his coaching staff has utterly failed. I can't think of a single player who came in from outside the organization in the last 3 years who has gotten markedly better, other than for a month or two at a time.
I am patient, and am excited to see the young players Bloom has brought in via draft/trade/international signings/etc., but I don't believe this coaching staff is going to make any of them better.
That, and the fact that Cora gives up on games they are behind by 2 runs in the 3rd or 4th inning is so starkly apparent on days like today, where Cash managed the 4th and 5th innings after Springs went out like it was a playoff game, and was rewarded with his team blasting the Sox in the 5th inning. If it was the opposite way around Cora would have just left his first reliever in to keep letting up runs because, hey, it's only one game.
Oh, wait...
This franchise fired a GM a year after winning the WS. They can fire the GM during another dumpster fire season. Having no GM would be just as good as what we have, if not better.
I submit that it doesn't matter who they bring up. There's no organizational depth at the AAA level.
Nah, in the 80s and even 90s their fallow times resulted in lousy attendance.
This ownership group hasn't faced a mass exodous of the fanbase yet. But it's close by. Or at least it should be.
There's a lottery now for the top 6 picks. Oakland went from 2nd-worst team to 6th pick. So if it goes go bad, exactly how bad doesn't change a lot.
I think you're putting too much faith in a coaching staff's ability to make major league players better at basic aspects of the game. It's not like we brought in Aaron Judge and watched him turn into a potato. I'm more receptive to there being a deeper developmental problem with coaching at the lower levels of the organization where it should matter more.
I'm just so confused as to what Bloom is trying to do. If he's trying a rebuild but not calling it a rebuild, why weren't Eovaldi and X and JD dealt at the deadline last year to get some young players into the org? Instead he acquired two used tissues of vets in Pham and Hosmer. And they finished last anyway.
We've had some mixed success with pitchers (e.g., Schreiber v. Ort) but hitters generally deteriorate or fail to take a next step.
Some of us were banging this drum in the off-season. The “plan” just doesn’t align with the moves.
Which makes sense if the "plan" is "build a team as cheaply as possible and who really cares what it does." Whether that's because Henry has turned off the money spigot or because Bloom convinced him that you can win through dumpster diving, who knows (I imagine it's both).
I’m literally right now in the process of reading “Francona; The Red Sox Years” by Tito and the CHB l. I’m up to the 2010-2011 off season where they’re discussing a report commissioned by Red Sox ownership and NESN concerning the decline in viewership and declining interest in the Sox. The report came up with a few reasons, but the takeaway was that ownership was very ratings and image conscious. The Red Sox are the cash cow for FSG, and you have to wonder how long it will be before the empty seats and steadily declining viewership causes a change in direction by ownership.
That was the first time I really questioned Bloom’s longterm plan, and the only possibilities I think are reasonable are a) he thought punting the season at the deadline would negatively impact the plan to sign X and Devers in the offseason or b) ownership wouldn’t let him. Given that the FO misread the market for X by 9 figures, neither option makes me feel good.
If you end up competing he’s valuable, and if not he should be a trade piece at the deadline.
This still pisses me off and I think is the most obvious indicator that Bloom has zero plan. It was mind boggling then and still is now.
The 2023 Boston Red Sox have only played 13 games this season and are already 8 games back of Tampa. No other team in baseball is that far back. Very sad what has become of the Red Sox.
They have been trying to rebuild without bottoming out completely, a la Baltimore. It isn't working yet. It's odd, because it feels like bottoming out completely has much more support on this board than the current "try to thread the needle" approach.
Amen.
When Franchy's 15th HR of the first half is the game-winner against the Sox on June 18 and there is a post-game riot in Fenway, that'll do it for Chaim.
If the team sucks and the players are bad, how could you possibly trade them for good prospects? Is there some kind of market efficiency for shitty players at the trade deadline that Chaim is just too dumb to take advantage of?
Since the start of 2022, the Sox are 16-45 against the Yankees, Rays, and Jays. That’s a 42 win pace. And 3 of the wins were a meaningless sweep of the Rays to close out last year.
I was hoping to come home from work to a win. I really didn't think we would, but was hoping. It looks like we had a lead for awhile that didn't last.
There was a place for Dalbec on this roster in this series. It was as a RH hitting PH/DH option while facing 3 lefties in this series and perhaps to give Casas a day off.
Night game on Sunday on Father’s Day?
not a chance at Fenway
That will be 95% Yankees fans in the 9th
Are we going to rehash this again?
Because the return wasn’t enough to justify punting on a 1/3 shot at the postseason. Where, as we all know, anything can happen.
And if they had punted, you’d have complained about that too.
Since the WC playoff spot was instituted, only one team won the World Series after a regular season in which they neither won their division or won 90+ games (the 2014 Giants). The whole "just make the playoffs and anything can happen" narrative is pretty overstated. The 2022 Red Sox obviously weren't winning anything and maximizing trade returns over a shot at possibly making a WC to probably get plastered by an actually good team should have been a no brainer.
I'm still not impressed with the Rays. All they've beaten (Tigers, Nationals, A's, and now Red Sox) are last-place teams. (ducks)
Apparently, Cora is giving Raffy the day off tomorrow as well. Turf and rest issues for the Angels Series. Not sure I get it.
We are stretched thin offensively and your young stud/star who you are paying a ton of money to play is sitting consecutive games.
Half the lineup is hitting under .200 including your second baseman who has not gotten a hit yet this season. I'm pissed.
We are stretched thin offensively and your young stud/star who you are paying a ton of money to play is sitting consecutive games.
Half the lineup is hitting under .200 including your second baseman who has not gotten a hit yet this season. I'm pissed.
They traded Vaz, and the clubhouse nearly revolted. So, given that, and the likely paltry return on what they had to sell, they stood pat and sold it as “going for it”. They also surely didn’t want too months of a AAAA lineup playing out the string (although they got it anyways). Fine, whatever, is what it is. They way they treated this off-season is baffling though, that they don’t have legit backups at several key positions and can barely field a team a few weeks into the season is embarrassing.