I liked the play call, but I really didn’t think it was wide open. I thought that was pretty great defense from Mitchell Robinson hedging back and making that 3 more difficult
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No Brogdon was a killer there. He’s such a stabilizing force with those bench lineups.
I think a timeout means the play would've happened faster, giving the Celtics another chance. I think a timeout at the end of the 1st overtime means THAT play could have happened faster. How often does a team go 2 entire overtime periods (like Joe just tried to do) without calling timeout? Maybe there's a reason for that.
I assume he's talking about the end of the first OT.
Al maybe hits that shot if somebody explained what rest and substitutions are to the coach.
Knicks shot 60% from 2 and Celtics shot barely above 40%. Them having Robinson and Celtics missing TL seemed to make a huge difference in this game.
Do you want Kornet, Muscala, or Griffin playing minutes in the fourth or OT?
Al was even more wide open on the Tatum miss at the end of OT1. Maybe a short break and a reminder from the coach beforehand would have helped. If only there was a mechanism for aiding that type of communication.
Filing this one in the BAD column of the no-timeout spreadsheet.
Filing this one in the BAD column of the no-timeout spreadsheet.
If you asked me at the all star break I would have sad the Celtics were the team to beat and felt pretty confident in that. The Bucks were an option but I definitely gave the Celtics the edge.
Now I think that’s flipped. I think the Bucks are the favorite. I have very little confidence in Mazzula and I am afraid of the offense devolving into an ISO, 3 point fest at critical times
EDIT: to clarify, think Mazzula could end up being a great coach. I think he has a great understanding of X and O’s. In-game I think he is really, really bad. Adjustments are few and far between and almost always too late. The timeout thing has been beat to death but it’s a very legitimate concern.
It was a gigantic mistake to let Will Hardy interview for the Jazz job while knowing that Udoka had issues
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The best spin is the 4q comeback when they looked dead after losing that 14 point 3q lead.
The negative spin is losing a big lead and the game again.
Good thing it's only March
The negative spin is losing a big lead and the game again.
Good thing it's only March
Think an opposing player would have skipped by the Celtics bench in front of Doc when KG and Perk were on the team without a response?
Hey they lost to another inferior team but at least they also took an extra 10 minutes to do it.
I think the standard for Mazzulla is letting them play it out unless there’s something seriously wrong. It seems like it’s on auto pilot and that’s always the decision
Blaming Mazzulla for tonight is ludicrous to me. I’m pretty much completely agnostic on the end of game TO/no TO. I assume Joe liked the matchups he had out there (IIRC no Robinson) and went with it. JB went too late and Tatum still had a shot to win it but came up short.
If there is anyone to “blame”, blame Tatum for his masonry exhibition late in the fourth and in OT. As always, this is a different game if they’re healthy and they were missing two very important guys when it comes to matching up with the Knicks.
If there is anyone to “blame”, blame Tatum for his masonry exhibition late in the fourth and in OT. As always, this is a different game if they’re healthy and they were missing two very important guys when it comes to matching up with the Knicks.
What team in 2023 would have taken Quickley out? That is not part of the NBA today. I don‘t like it but stop him if you don’t want him to dance.
Luckily the Bucks play right into the C’s strengths. But I’m worried about the killer instinct/it factor in general, and they seem really vulnerable against certain types of teams/players, who they might have to face before even getting to the Bucks.
Biggest takeaway from tonight is that Grant looks like shit. He played good defense on Randle at times and had a few hustle plays but man oh man he seemed like a serious net negative on offense. Lots of hesitation on shots he would have fired away earlier in the year/last year and some ugly, ugly misses. Would be great for him to get his mojo back before the playoffs start.
The other thing I want to point out about this game is that from about 4 minutes left in the 4th quarter to about 1 minute left in Double OT, Tatum was garbage. He completely fucked what should have been a wide open dunk off a steal by attempt on to hold the ball and spin away instead of just fucking throwing it forward. He missed about as easy of a pass as you can get to Brown in the corner and threw it into the stands.
With about a minute left in OT2 he finally got aggressive and went to the cup.
With about a minute left in OT2 he finally got aggressive and went to the cup.
I’m less concerned about coaching and more about the players. The lackadaisical play with big leads the last 2 games is concerning. They fall in love with lazy 3 pointers instead of getting into the paint and attacking the rim. Too many turnovers.
About the same as I think about most coaches—not much. Would of course prefer a more seasoned guy for a title run, but I 100% agree with Red above.
Goes back to the same issue. No killer instinct. Up 14 at home in mid 3rd against a team that just beat them good a few days prior and they couldn’t step on their neck. Had they played the whole game last they did down the stretch, they win comfortably. But the effort and execution just isn’t there.
watching the end of that game again and tatum was 100% looking to drive and then kick to Al but grants head being in a cloud and standing over next to Al is so stupid. How is he not focused and knowing where to be there. Joe 100% didnt call the timeout because he had confidence in his team to make the play and he was right, tatum was going to set up that play but grant was lost. Feel like that cant be on joe there. Maybe what comes to mind is grant not practice last minute plays in practice enough but who knows. Just such a frustrating mistake
I think they really missed TL tonight. Knicks got way too I many 2nd chance shots off theO glass and loose balls and Quickley zoomed into the paint whenever he wanted.
Great game Terrible loss.
Great game Terrible loss.
I don't know what killer instinct would have done. in the 3Q, Cs had 11 point lead when Hauser came in 5 point lead when Muscala came in and it turns out there's a reason Muscala was available for cheap as he couldn't guard Quickley and Hauser was having his own troubles (plus Hauser launched two pretty well contested 3Ps that I suppose he has to shoot if he's going to have a career in the NBA), neither of which had a great chance of going in IMO.
And Huaser/Muscala were apparently # 6 + #7 in the rotation tonight and -16 and -9 on the evening.
(As an side, I understand why Muscala played over Kornet - trying to get Robinson out of the paint) but Luke was having a pretty decent season before Muscala joined the team and now he's not getting much time at all.)
The Cs are not a perfect team but they've showed they can beat any of the other contenders in the league when they are at full strength, which is hopefully where they will be in June.
After coming off the embarrassing loss on Friday, to see them lose a 14 point 2nd half lead to a team they just lost to on Monday was very disappointing. This hasn't been a great team for a couple of months now and that's concerning.
He and JB are more careless with the ball than any other elite players I can think of. Between loose handles, bad passes + missed layups and other seemingly high-percentage paint shots, they leave a lot of points on the table - and some of those are obviously 4-6 point swings. Sure would've been nice to have a couple of those last night.
for better or for worse they are getting too 3 pt shot happy--and for the most part they ae good at it but when they miss, and no one is down low for a rebound it is basically like a turnover. I love all and Grant but I'd like to see them do some post damage as well. There were many times in the game last night where Celts drove in and had a clear shot to the basket and then passed it out to someone at the line. Also what has happned to Pritchard?
From everything I am hearing about JMazz, that's not going to happen. According to Reddick on the broadcast last night, the Cs got "out mathed" by BRK since they only shot 30 3Ps (what he really said that the Cs got to the rim so easily in the 1Q, they kept concentrating on 2Ps while BRK was shooting 3Ps. BRK started making 3Ps and started clamping down on 2Ps so the Cs were getting "out mathed").
Watching 3Ps fly through the air and through the basket is a joy to watch and watching a barrage of 3Ps clang off the rim sucks but my guess is that's the way the Cs are going to play - for better or for worse - the rest of the way.
Maybe a little guy trying to guard a little guy would have worked better? Or, sticking with the regulars, why was White considered so ineffective against NYK?
https://theathletic.com/4280264/2023/03/06/knicks-celtics-nba-cba-talks/
Hollinger brought up a couple points I found interesting:
-Tatum's hit a wall statistically since the Golden State OT game on Jan 19. Going further...
-Should the NBA go towards a sudden death OT in the regular season where first to score x points (7 in G-League atm) in OT wins, untimed?
Hollinger brought up a couple points I found interesting:
-Tatum's hit a wall statistically since the Golden State OT game on Jan 19. Going further...
-Should the NBA go towards a sudden death OT in the regular season where first to score x points (7 in G-League atm) in OT wins, untimed?
White got 32 minutes to Smart's 39. Not sure he was considered ineffective. Also, he was being targeted by Randle so I suspect that's why JMazz wanted GW in.
As for PP, there was really no one for him to guard. I mean Grimes is the obvious choice but the NYK would just switch him onto Randle or Quickley or Barrett and that wouldn't have gone well IMO.