268 Or Bust: Taking Aim At The Team HR Record Again

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Aaron Judge is the one starting this thread this year with his quotes today after NY's six HR game (Gardner 2, Judge 2, Sanchez, Isiah Gilliam), not me. For those who don't remember, last year NY broke the alltime record of 264 (1997 SEA), finishing at 267, hence the title.

"You get this whole team healthy, we're going to crush the record that we set last year," Judge said. "We've got a good team, a lot of guys that could make a lot of solid contact, and a lot of big boys that when they make contact, man, it goes. We're a team that's primed and ready to do that."

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I think it'll be a challenge for a few reasons:

Didi Gregorius's numbers will not be replaced by Troy Tulowitzki. Is there another option that might pop 25+ HR?
Aaron Judge's sophomore power outage(compared to his rookie year) will need to be corrected.
Luke Volt will need to be the real deal over a full season, and/or Greg Bird will need to be the real deal and play close to a full season
They'll need the young guys to avoid sophomore slumps and guys like Gary Sanchez to show 2017 is the real Gary Sanchez. And they'll need guys like Gardner & LeMaheiu to provide some extra pop where possible.

The Yankee lineup is scary, but they've got some definite question marks when it comes to the HR record again. I have zero doubt they'll be in the playoff, but the record may not quite as within reach as Judge thinks.
 

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I think it'll be a challenge for a few reasons:

Didi Gregorius's numbers will not be replaced by Troy Tulowitzki. Is there another option that might pop 25+ HR?
Aaron Judge's sophomore power outage(compared to his rookie year) will need to be corrected.
Luke Volt will need to be the real deal over a full season, and/or Greg Bird will need to be the real deal and play close to a full season
They'll need the young guys to avoid sophomore slumps and guys like Gary Sanchez to show 2017 is the real Gary Sanchez. And they'll need guys like Gardner & LeMaheiu to provide some extra pop where possible.

The Yankee lineup is scary, but they've got some definite question marks when it comes to the HR record again. I have zero doubt they'll be in the playoff, but the record may not quite as within reach as Judge thinks.
Judge missed 2 months, Sanchez had a shit year, Voit only hit 15hrs last year and Bird hit 11, Stanton had a streaky and kind of off year, Hicks was hurt....

Maybe you have a point with Didi but he's not out the full year and yes, Tulo has plenty of pop and could easily tread homerun water while covering (if healthy). As we found out last year, power doesn't win you the division but I don't think there is much question that this team should shred through the record.
 

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The potential is there, but yeah, it comes down to health. It isn't a record I care much about, but I do hope for good health this season.
 

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If I were running an opposing team, I would want the yankees to be focused on that record.
I don't think they're actually focused on it except for the few days in late September when they're closing in on it, but it certainly worked out well for BOS last season.
 

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I hope they are also focusing on defense, running the bases, situational hitting, and pitching while answering questions about home runs.
 

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I enjoyed the chase and this thread last year. What the NYY did was (obviously) historic, and seeing the Big Blow games and the games where they didn't hit any HR, considering the power they had, was all fascinating.
 

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Stanton/Judge/Sanchez combined for 144 HRs in 2017 and just 83 in 2018, so there’s a bunch of potential upside there.
 

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I can't access them at work - has anyone pulled together PECOTA and ZIPS or other projections for the totals?
I'll use them all, but should be said ATC and THE BAT are my personal favorites. There's also the concern that most of these systems are too liberal in estimate of games played. For instance, no way in hell Billy Burns plays 109 for the Yankees this season, as ZiPS projects. Any players you'd like me to specifically run, to get a better estimate? Maybe the ones on the current 25 man, Hicks, and Gregorius?
 

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I'll use them all, but should be said ATC and THE BAT are my personal favorites. There's also the concern that most of these systems are too liberal in estimate of games played. For instance, no way in hell Billy Burns plays 109 for the Yankees this season, as ZiPS projects. Any players you'd like me to specifically run, to get a better estimate? Maybe the ones on the current 25 man, Hicks, and Gregorius?
I thought a lot of the projections use some sort of depth chart to get total games/PAs to a reasonable level and then project the entire team's performance?
 

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I'll use them all, but should be said ATC and THE BAT are my personal favorites. There's also the concern that most of these systems are too liberal in estimate of games played. For instance, no way in hell Billy Burns plays 109 for the Yankees this season, as ZiPS projects. Any players you'd like me to specifically run, to get a better estimate? Maybe the ones on the current 25 man, Hicks, and Gregorius?
ZiPS isn’t projecting playing time like that. It’s playing time and an MLB equivalent performance across all levels for players that get a projection.
 

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NY is petitioning the league to play in Camden Yards every week, 14 HRs in the 3 games this weekend puts them at 20 through 9 games.
 

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The Orioles have allowed 100 HR in 48 games, on a pace for 337.5. The record for HR allowed is the 2016 Reds with 258. Through 48 games, the Reds had allowed 79.

The Yankees are on pace to hit 252. The Twins are on pace to hit 304. Mariners 295. Astros 294.
 

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NY is precisely halfway through the season with 137 through 81 games. It's been a strange year with all of the injuries (9 HRs for Judge and Stanton combined) and with the increased HRs throughout MLB (NY is 5th currently), but there's an update.
 

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NY just obliterated the MLB record for homers in a month with 74 (old record 58). They did this without any contributions from Stanton, Hicks, Voit, Encarnacion or Andujar.

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Yankees MLB Record 74 HR in a Month

13 Gleyber Torres
9 DJ LeMahieu
8 Mike Ford
8 Aaron Judge
8 Gary Sanchez
7 Gio Urshela
6 Didi Gregorius
5 Mike Tauchman
3 Brett Gardner
3 Cameron Maybin
2 Kyle Higashioka
2 Austin Romine

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NY is at 254 for the season, on pace for 300 even. They’re 2nd in MLB behind the Twins and pretty unlikely to catch them, MIN is at 262 with 3 games in hand.
 

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NY just obliterated the MLB record for homers in a month with 74 (old record 58). They did this without any contributions from Stanton, Hicks, Voit, Encarnacion or Andujar.

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Yankees MLB Record 74 HR in a Month

13 Gleyber Torres
9 DJ LeMahieu
8 Mike Ford
8 Aaron Judge
8 Gary Sanchez
7 Gio Urshela
6 Didi Gregorius
5 Mike Tauchman
3 Brett Gardner
3 Cameron Maybin
2 Kyle Higashioka
2 Austin Romine

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NY is at 254 for the season, on pace for 300 even. They’re 2nd in MLB behind the Twins and pretty unlikely to catch them, MIN is at 262 with 3 games in hand.
Twins with 4 more HR through 6 innings.
 

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Looking at the chart, the Dodgers and Astros have a good chance of hitting more than 268 this year as well.
 

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And they broke it in the 9th with another solo HR, six home runs and they lose 10-7.

Someone joked in this thread last year that the Yankees would get 300 (before the season) but the Twins are actually going to do it this year, possibly the Yankees too.
 

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Judge fittingly hits #268, 18 1/2 games still to go. They are seven behind the Twins right now.
 

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Now it is MIN 275, NYY 274, MIN still with two extra games to play. NY has outhomered MIN 89-59 since August 4, including 4 so far tonight (0 for MIN so far tonight).
 

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NY is up 280-279 on MIN, MIN still has 2 extra games left (16 to NY's 14). I didn't think NY had a chance to catch them, but it's going to be close.
 

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The last line of this table probably has a ton to do with it.

Minnesota Twins by Month

SplitGGSPAABRH2B3BHRRBISBCSBBSOBAOBPSLGOPSTBGDPHBPSHSFIBBROEBAbiptOPS+sOPS+
April/March297271009907141233584501337481202.257.325.495.82044919132525.27796119
May2852911481020191292615561869398223.286.353.521.8745311215213110.313110131
June2612711061009142268512511374675237.266.327.472.798476171813512.30092108
July24324961852139230493521344587197.270.343.518.860441211127311.292106123
August2972811211009189284543591832289256.281.346.516.86252113141856.321107120
Sept/Oct12811431378449114211430044100.241.330.376.7061421071112.2997492
 

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MIN is up 289-288 on NY, 10 games left to NY's 9.

Stanton is finally back but Encarnacion and Sanchez are both out again along with Hicks and Tauchman. Gleyber has turned into a far more powerful beast than anyone predicted and almost immediately (in April 2018 the consensus was he was a top 5 prospect in MLB, but would max out at 15 HRs maybe). He is 3rd in the AL currently with 38 HRs, still in his age 22 season. And Judge has woken up/got healthier, he has 12 HRs in his last 100 ABs.
 

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NY creeps back ahead with a blast from Tyler Wade, of all people.

Twins 293 home runs in 154 games
Yankees 294 home runs in 155 games
 
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I predicted before the season began that the Yankees would hit 300 home runs then they had all those injuries. But they are still getting there.
 

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Yeah, they had five guys hit 25+ last year and got their fifth this year today, but amazingly Judge is the only one who overlaps and all nine are still on the roster.

2018 Stanton, Gregorius, Judge, Andujar, Hicks
2019 Torres, Sanchez, Gardner, LeMahieu, Judge

And those nine still doesn't include Encarnacion who has hit 30+ 8 years in a row (13 in 177 ABs for NY this year) or Voit who has 35 in 543 ABs for NY since they got him last August 1 or Urshela who has 20 in 421 ABs this year.
 

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Twins are the first to 300 with 2 today.

Twins 301 home runs in 159 games
Yankees 299 home runs in 159 games

NY needs to take full advantage of the launching pad in TEX this weekend if they're going to pull this out.
 

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Houston (279) and LA (274) already have passed the old mark too.

Kind of interesting though, the Yankees have scored the most runs so far (924 going into today) but won't beat the 07 Yankees who scored 968 runs.
 

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Kind of interesting though, the Yankees have scored the most runs so far (924 going into today) but won't beat the 07 Yankees who scored 968 runs.
But this is the most that any MLB team has scored since those 2007 Yankees, I was surprised when I researched that recently. The 2009 Yankees were the last team to score 900 before this season.
 

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NY's final series of the year is their one visit to the launching pad in Arlington, and they hit 6 HRs in the opener there tonight. MIN had 2 in a win in KC that got rained out after 7 innings, so with 2 games left, it is NY 305-303.
 

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If you thought the players weren't into this (although you can read Judge's quote in the first post to show otherwise), here is a Stanton quote after NY went ahead last night.

"It is fun to see the back and forth," Giancarlo Stanton said. "I know they were leading most of the year, so we've got to make sure they don't catch us. I think that's exciting for baseball. As a spectator, you want to see homers."

No HRs for MIN today through 4 innings, NY still 2 ahead.
 

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Twins win this on the last day, 307-306. MIN is tied in the 9th so could still add more, but either way, they are the team HR record holders.
 

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Oh well, if MLB keeps the 2019 ball then 2020 will be another opportunity to break the record yet again. Congrats to Twins.

613 HRs between them and that in itself is an interesting subplot for the ALDS.
 

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A MIN beat writer and a NYY beat writer for The Athletic kept a combined diary of the home run back and forth this weekend, The Athletic is really doing quality work day in and day out.

"After an overcast, windy day full of doubles, Nelson Cruz keeps Bomba SZN alive with a solo homer in the eighth inning to give the Twins a 4-3 lead. It was Cruz’s ninth homer this season against Kansas City. He hit .371/.467/.903 versus the Royals, which prompted a local reporter to ask what it was about Kansas City.

“If you go to the White Sox, they’ll tell you the same thing,” Cruz said.

Cruz hit .433/.521/.917 against the White Sox with eight home runs."

"Rangers pitcher — and former Twin and Yankee — Lance Lynn is asked about mostly keeping the ball in the ballpark against the hard-hitting Bombers on Sunday.

“It’s cool … I guess,” Lynn says, according to Levi Weaver of The Athletic Dallas. “I don’t care about that shit.”"