2024 Jets: Out of the Darkness - Take 2
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I didn't like that trade from the jump. Seemed driven too much by the surrounding need to chase bigger named "GOING FOR IT!" headlines, and made no real actual sense to me (at the time we were letting Huff walk) if you weren't immediately confident a resign was actually going to happen. Which clearly wasn't the case.
Big picture nothing really changes with this though. Digging in and waiting him out is still the play.
Big picture nothing really changes with this though. Digging in and waiting him out is still the play.
They traded a conditional second rounder to Philly to acquire him. I don’t think the Jets are sending him back to Philly (who wouldn’t give him a new deal) or, for that matter, anywhere else. Grabbing a fifth rounder or something isn’t worth it, dare him to risk rolling his contract by holding out 11-12 games.
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Nothing like a nice statement off. Dude gave up a lot of cash already by not reporting. Strange situation
He turns 30 next month. Feels like a “get the best deal you can and move on” kind of situation. Feel like he’s getting bad advice but hard to know.
His best bet is to hold out the max he can without tolling the year, then show up, likely pull a hammy because he's not going to be game ready, play like 3 games then hit UFA
And what happens if he tears an ACL instead of a hammy? His market craters. I think we need to know more about the Jets’ offer. Given where things are, he’s going to lose a lot of money holding out that he needs to make back up in future earnings.
There is no indication the Jets made an offer, the statement above says they are consistent in their position, and around the trade the stories were he was going to play out his last year.
If the Jets aren't making him a major offer, he should play as little as he can without losing a year of service time. This isn't Aiyuk where the options are very large but below market contract or play it out, this appears to be... play it out, or nothing.
If the Jets haven’t made a legit offer, and sounds like you’re right there, then agreed. Stay healthy and hit open market. Pass rushers tend to always be in demand.
I’ve learned that there is almost no such thing as NFL reporting and we mostly have competing mouthpieces which is understandable from an access POV. Combining things it seems Jets said they would negotiate once he reports and he says he is not reporting without a deal.
Another story is the Jets made an offer that was rejected prior to doing the trade and Jets still did it (maybe the sides mistakenly thought they were close).
Seems dumb that it got to this point but in terms of Jetsiness …not that crazy.
He gave up real money already by not showing. I just want good players to play and be compensated fairly so this story sucks.
But big picture does he actually come out ahead in next winter's FA going that route as a 30yo though? I just don't see it as the potential age and baggage concerns are being piled up in the process.
I think he ultimately ends up showing up and balling out. Because that is simply in his best interests. With concerns of how much of an effect that might then have in the lockeroom being mostly drowned out by the overriding "why the hell was Hackett brought back as OC" narrative i fully expect to dominate much of the surrounding 2024 season
It's an interesting risk proposal. The real key is trying to reduce the risk of major injury. He's established enough his contract next year won't be effected by much other than a major injury, so from his perspective, he just wants to avoid that, and playing 7 or 8 less games should help that a little. So it's less about getting more money than it is trading some fines for what he hopes is a decreased chance at catastrophic downside.But big picture does he actually come out ahead in next winter's FA going that route as a 30yo though? I just don't see it as the potential age and baggage concerns are being piled up in the process.
I think he ultimately ends up showing up and balling out. Because that is simply his best play. With concerns of how much of an effect that might then have in the lockeroom being mostly drowned out by the overriding "why the hell was Hackett brought back as OC" narrative i fully expect to dominate much of the surrounding 2024 season narrative
He's established, but he's also aging and from the reports i've seen is chasing top tier type money. Again color me skeptical he can essentially put a 1 year spacer in there from elite play and still end up getting the elite player payday he's looking for as a 31yo.
I mean nobody is expected to be banging down the Jets door to allow them to recoup that 3rd round pick right now. That perceived value is likely only going down from here.
I like Wilson, but that feels too rich for my blood.
Breece Hall, however? Dude was legit before injury and one of the few true 3 down backs.
Wilson is pretty good. Good route runner, good hands, smart player. I don’t play fantasy anymore so number 10 would have him as what in terms of receivers. Jefferson has been better but won’t have Cousins, Hill is great and then it seems like there would be a lot of guys that I don’t know if I would would say Wilson is better but also not clear that they’re better than he is. If he and 8 stay healthy a lot of questions about him will be answered.
We really should have fired Salad and hired BB
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What are they saying about Malachi Corley? He was my pre-draft binky, but I haven't found much news on his camp/preseason out there.
I would say this is accurate. I like Gipson but the hope would be that he gets good enough to play over him.
Nice, thanks. It appears Corley is a project that may not contribute much this year.
This was never going to happen with the Aaron Rodgers' Show basically dictating what you could or couldn't do in that regard.
Hackett (who literally nobody disputes should be fired right now, but can't because of the same above reason) steering us into the iceberg in 2024 will 100 % change that though. So I can totally see it next year if Bill isn't ready to let go of coaching and as the ultimate F you to the Pats for firing him. Basically the NFL's version of CM Punk coming back to WWE lol
(but I'd be betting he ends up on the Bills after they lose to mahomes again, or maybe the Giants if they show any forward promise this year)
SF on the road is a tough start but wasn’t overly impressed with this team last night. Rodgers looked…ok. Hall and Wilson will be the entire offense. Lazard had a good game. Maybe he’ll emerge as a consistent 3rd threat.
Was really surprised by how the defense got gashed by Mason and the running game so worth watching going forward. Tennessee on the road should be a win, probably of the ugly variety. And then Pats/Denver at home. Schedule isn’t too tough so I still expect a good season from these guys.
Was really surprised by how the defense got gashed by Mason and the running game so worth watching going forward. Tennessee on the road should be a win, probably of the ugly variety. And then Pats/Denver at home. Schedule isn’t too tough so I still expect a good season from these guys.
I think Lazard put up an empty stat sheet. Late TD that meant nothing and the free play that probably doesn't get thrown without the offsides. When the game was in doubt he was invisible or dropped passes. They really need Williams or another guy to step up in the WR room. Hall and Wilson are great but that's a lot for them to carry.
Agreed. It’s Hall and Wilson right now, two admittedly very good players. Will be enough against bad to decent teams but may not be enough against the elite teams like SF, KC, etc. Could probably use a more dynamic TE as well. Conklin is merely decent.
If they are close I could see them being active in the in season trade market for a TE or WR. Not that that will be any guarantee of improvement, but it's really this year or bust with Rodgers.
Yeah, with the Panthers looking miserable, I would jump on Diontae Johnson, if he becomes available.
He did fuck up early, and he is a fuck up generally, but the catch on the sideline (which was a beautiful throw) and the rest of his game was his best game as a Jet. He can also block. If he is not a penalty machine and a big time drop flop he will keep getting on the field. We need to see what is up with Williams. Conklin can actually play and it was funny to watch Tyrod come in and get him the ball. Seems like 8 would rather throw to WRs. The coaching could be a problem and I'm ready for Jets stuff. I watched so many games this weekend and saw a lot of week 1 is preseason "stuff" so, need to see if they can work things out.
Rodgers looked to me like his arm is still there but his legs are not. Like in a clean pocket, he can still sling it. His mobility looks cooked to me. He looked exactly like a 40 year old coming off a major injury.
Problem is the Jets line isn’t built to protect an immobile Aaron Rodgers adequately.
Problem is the Jets line isn’t built to protect an immobile Aaron Rodgers adequately.
He did look a little stiff/brittle but that might also be because they showed his Achilles injury a few times and I couldn't get it out of my head. I was sure he was going down again when Floyd rushed him on the 4th play from scrimmage. Real issue was everything looked difficult for them. Even the TD drive required 12 plays and multiple 3rd down conversions. They'll need to find ways to get some easier completions until their Oline settles a little, and maybe integrate the new RB to take a little weight off Hall.
Realize the 49ers offense is the best in the league but I thought the Jets defense was their biggest issue. The Jets got no pressure whatsoever and the 49ers went up and down the field at will.