2024 broncos how deep in cap hell will we go

[j-man]

here is the sch for denver
home KC Vegas LAC CLE PITT ATL CAR INDY
AWAY KC VEGAS LAC CINY BALT NO TB NYJ SEA

Denver will have to clear over 50 mil in dead cap because we are gonna cut wilson

overall last season was a missed opp where denver has a shot to win in 6 of the 9 losses
going foward denver must
1 get better in every phase on off can stdd be a brigre guy can HB J williams regain some of his speed
2 can denver keep sutton mims and jeredy
on def denver must learn to stop the run if not they will only win 5-6 games

long story short out of denver 6 draft picks they must get 2 or 3 starters in the 2024 draft

if denver can go 3-3 aga the west 2-2 aga the afc north go 3-1 or 4-0 aga nfc south and win 1 of 3 indy @ nyj @ sea there is a path to 10 wins thanks nfc south
but unless they can score over 24 a game and stop the running game denver will keep running in place

 

[j-man]

ranking coaches 1-32
1 Reid KC
2 Shanny SF
3 John harbaruh balt
4 mcbay rams
5 jim harbaugh LAC
6 D Ryans hou
7 m tomiln pitt
8 m lafur gb
9 d campbell det
10 m mcdanel mia
11 s petyon den
12 z taylor ciny
13 s steny indy
14 j gannon zona
15 mcdermitt buff
16 b caillien tenn
17 m mcdonald sea
18 philly coach
19 nyg coach
20 a pierce vegas
21 cle coach
22 minn coach
23 t bowles tb
24 j mayo ne
25 d peteton jax
26 dal coach
27 r morris atl
28 car coach
29 r salen nyj
30 chi coach
31 d allen no
32 d quinn wash

as a bouns bill wouild be12th on my list

 

[johnmd20]

ranking coaches 1-32
1 Reid KC
2 Shanny SF
3 John harbaruh balt
4 mcbay rams
5 jim harbaugh LAC
6 D Ryans hou
7 m tomiln pitt
8 m lafur gb
9 d campbell det
10 m mcdanel mia
11 s petyon den
12 z taylor ciny
13 s steny indy
14 j gannon zona
15 mcdermitt buff
16 b caillien tenn
17 m mcdonald sea
18 philly coach
19 nyg coach
20 a pierce vegas
21 cle coach
22 minn coach
23 t bowles tb
24 j mayo ne
25 d peteton jax
26 dal coach
27 r morris atl
28 car coach
29 r salen nyj
30 chi coach
31 d allen no
32 d quinn wash

as a bouns bill wouild be12th on my list

Top 5 is strong and then it goes off the rails.

Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in ages. McDermott has won one every year for 4 straight years.

McD might be a jerk and a hardo, but he's not 15th and Tomlin isn't close to 7th. Tomlin is perfectly average, wins in the regular season and then can't do anything in the playoffs. He's a 15th ranked coach. Stefanski at 21 is also very very bad.

 

[j-man]

Top 5 is strong and then it goes off the rails.

Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in ages. McDermott has won one every year for 4 straight years.

McD might be a jerk and a hardo, but he's not 15th and Tomlin isn't close to 7th. Tomlin is perfectly average, wins in the regular season and then can't do anything in the playoffs. He's a 15th ranked coach. Stefanski at 21 is also very very bad.

about tomiln u are right overall but he has won a super bowl i know it was long ago but without him pitt is a4/6 win team
mcd has had a star qb for 3 years that 13 sec in kc was his fauit the no show aga ciny in the playoffs was his fauit the fake aga kc this year was his fauit u give bill the billis the last 3 years they make at least 1 super bowl plob 2
cle coach has horrable game manment skills way too in to a binder

 

[j-man]

here how i rank all 32 teams
1 KC
2 SF
3 DET
4 MIA
5 BUFF
6 BALT
7 GB
8 HOU
9 CINY
10 LAC
11 PHILLY
12 SEA
13 DAL
14 RAMS
15 NYJ
16 JAX
17 TB
18 PITT
19 INDY
20 CLE
21 NO
22 VEGAS
23 NYG
24 ZONA
25 MINN
26 DEN
27 ATL
28 CHI
29 WASH
30 TENN
31 NE
32 CAR

 

[Justthetippett]

here how i rank all 32 teams
1 KC
2 SF
3 DET
4 MIA
5 BUFF
6 BALT
7 GB
8 HOU
9 CINY
10 LAC
11 PHILLY
12 SEA
13 DAL
14 RAMS
15 NYJ
16 JAX
17 TB
18 PITT
19 INDY
20 CLE
21 NO
22 VEGAS
23 NYG
24 ZONA
25 MINN
26 DEN
27 ATL
28 CHI
29 WASH
30 TENN
31 NE
32 CAR

Ice cold Jman!

The fun thing about parody is that things change so much year to year. The tough thing about a QB centric league is that you either have one or you don't. Pats need to figure that out this off-season to get out of the basement.

 

[j-man]

Ice cold Jman!

The fun thing about parody is that things change so much year to year. The tough thing about a QB centric league is that you either have one or you don't. Pats need to figure that out this off-season to get out of the basement.

i hate to rank NE that low but with no bill and starting over on off its hard for me to rank higher utill mayo prove it with bill i wouild had ranked u around 23 maybe as high as 20

 

[j-man]

about denver at 26

denver has played awful aga their div the last 7 seasons loseing 8 in a row to the raiders 15 of 16 to kc and lac now has harbaugh utill denver playies better in div it will be hard to make the playoffs unlees they go no worse than 9-2 out of div plus they have no cap room no 2rd round pick only 1 top 70 pick in the draft

i wouild not be mad if payton blew it up but patyon mo in new orlans was to speand now pay later

 

[Justthetippett]

about denver at 26

denver has played awful aga their div the last 7 seasons loseing 8 in a row to the raiders 15 of 16 to kc and lac now has harbaugh utill denver playies better in div it will be hard to make the playoffs unlees they go no worse than 9-2 out of div plus they have no cap room no 2rd round pick only 1 top 70 pick in the draft

i wouild not be mad if payton blew it up but patyon mo in new orlans was to speand now pay later

What are the Broncos going to do at QB? Hope McCarthy is there when they pick? Nix? (Maybe Peyton sees some Brees in him?) Vet FA market? I really don't think Stidham will be the answer, even as a stopgap.

 

[j-man]

What are the Broncos going to do at QB? Hope McCarthy is there when they pick? Nix? (Maybe Peyton sees some Brees in him?) Vet FA market? I really don't think Stidham will be the answer, even as a stopgap.

good q i want mccarthy i think our only choies are QB Mason ruholsh or QB James winston if petyon want nik or pennix then we shouild trade down so we can at least get a 2nd round pick if denver wants a mid round qb joe mition QB tenn couild be on the radar

 

[j-man]

denver likely 2024 startes
QB TBA
RB J Williams J Mclaguin
WR Suttion ? Mims jr B Johnson T Patrick
TE G Duluch
LT Bolies
LG POWERS
C Foretsh
RG MENERZ
RT Mcginchey
def
LE ?
DT D J JONES
RE Z ALLEN
LOLB Browning
MLB SINGLETION SANDERS
Rolb Cooper Bonito
CB Sutrain ii r moss j mcmillian
fs ? B Jones
ss stens

EX denver 6 picks to be QB DE CB TE and maybe WR RB

 

[j-man]

denver cut justin simmons he went to school in bc if bill was still the coach simmons to ne wouild be a lock

 

[j-man]

bullent points

suttion is 50/50 to be back in denver
added S B Jones MIA
lost cushberry tenn wilson pitt

these next 2 years look lean unlees denver hits on 75% of their picks

1 deal that couild happen if williams Daniels go 1-2 is denver wants a qb bad might have to at least get up to 6 at worst i couild see sirtan and 12 25 1st 24 3rd to ne for your 3 pick couild throw sutton in there instead of 24 3rd Denver is eyeing J J Mccthy bo nix if i was NE if denver threw in the 25 1st i wouild take a deal because denver couild draft in the top 5 next draft

allthrough the raiders couild put a much better package maxx crosby d awadws 13 and 25 1st

 

[j-man]

denver did take a 53 mil cap hit on wilson which means after the 2024 season denver will have around 100 mil to play with next offseason but around 20 mil of ths will go to ps2

 

[j-man]

update unless bo nix has a great rookie year or jarrett has a carerr year denver is looking at a top 3-6 pick while denver could be ok at home couild go 6-2 at home there are stareing at a 0-9 road rec because @ no will be loud @ tb they are good @ Sea better team @ nyj great def @ ciny burrow @ balt jackson @ kc @ vegas they are 4-0 aga den since vegas @ lac harbarugh

 

[j-man]

denver has had a nice draft but even if bo nix becomes drew brees with brady 2.0 burrow hebert l jackson stound den celling is 10-7 and win a playoff game for the next 5-10 years

the better wouild been to fix the OL/DL DRAFT someone like ratter then if we are not very good draft quinn ewars next season

 

[j-man]

since bo nix is the likely week 1 starter i say right now denver is a 5-6 win team if it's wilson then denver will likely have the number 1 pick and then travis hunter welcome to denver

 

[j-man]

my rank of all 32 teams in 4 groups

tier1 SB or bust KC SF DET BALT PHILLY
Tier 2 playoffs or bust HOU BUFF NYJ MIA PITT CINY CLE JAX INDY DAL GB ATL TB NO RAMS SEA
Tier 3 VEGAS LAC NYG WASH CHI MINN ZONA
Tier 4 NE TENN DEN CAR

 

[j-man]

my take on den while there pos more team speed younger 2nd year of payton
theve also some huge ? marks is bo nix mac jones will suttion be traded can the OL pass block is it better to sit nix for 6-8 weeks and then let him play for 2025 or is nix the week 1 guy

at best denver is a season away and realliy 2 seasons away denver worse nightmare is nix underpermos and vegas gets prescott or deion kid at qb in 2025

if denver goes 8-9 again give payton coach of the year

 

[j-man]

Week 1: at Seahawks
Week 2: vs Steelers
Week 3: at Buccaneers
Week 4: at Jets
Week 5: vs Raiders
Week 6: vs Chargers
Week 7: at Saints (TNF)
Week 8: vs Panthers
Week 9: at Ravens
Week 10: at Chiefs
Week 11: vs Falcons
Week 12: at Raiders
Week 13: vs Browns (MNF)
Week 14: BYE
Week 15: vs Colts
Week 16: at Chargers
Week 17: at Bengals
Week 18: vs Chiefs

 

[j-man]

drew sanders tore his acl at the end of apail why did it take 3 weeks to make the news
simmons is still a fa come on nyj what u waiting on
bet the under on 5 and a haif denver wins unless bo nix is good

 

[NextBigThing8184]

Week 1: at Seahawks
Week 2: vs Steelers
Week 3: at Buccaneers
Week 4: at Jets
Week 5: vs Raiders
Week 6: vs Chargers
Week 7: at Saints (TNF)
Week 8: vs Panthers
Week 9: at Ravens
Week 10: at Chiefs
Week 11: vs Falcons
Week 12: at Raiders
Week 13: vs Browns (MNF)
Week 14: BYE
Week 15: vs Colts
Week 16: at Chargers
Week 17: at Bengals
Week 18: vs Chiefs

I could see a split with LV/LAC and winning 4 of vs Colts, Falcons, Seahawks, Steelers, Panthers and Saints. Maybe steal one against the Jets, Browns or Bucs. Tough path to 7 though.

That said, good chance Denver is drafting top 3 next year unless Nix is solid from day 1. 3 or 4 wins wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[j-man]

I could see a split with LV/LAC and winning 4 of vs Colts, Falcons, Seahawks, Steelers, Panthers and Saints. Maybe steal one against the Jets, Browns or Bucs. Tough path to 7 though.

That said, good chance Denver is drafting top 3 next year unless Nix is solid from day 1. 3 or 4 wins wouldn’t surprise me.

100% right only win denver can get to 7 is sweep vegas spilt LAC beat ATL CAR CLE and pull a upset aga indy tb or no

if denver drafts at 2 or 3 and we cant get a LT or von miller type than i want travis hunter

 

[NextBigThing8184]

100% right only win denver can get to 7 is sweep vegas spilt LAC beat ATL CAR CLE and pull a upset aga indy tb or no

if denver drafts at 2 or 3 and we cant get a LT or von miller type than i want travis hunter

Hunter is a great prospect (right now) but pairing Nix with Luther Burden would do a lot to develop Nix and get that offense on track to be able to compete for a playoff spot.

 

[j-man]

Hunter is a great prospect (right now) but pairing Nix with Luther Burden would do a lot to develop Nix and get that offense on track to be able to compete for a playoff spot.

but we have troy franklin and marvin mins jr denver badily needs a num 2 cb as teams can just pick on are num 2 cb now

 

[j-man]

actilly other than the loss of justin simmons its been a good offseason for denver

btw on justin simmons if bill was the coach he wouild be a pat he is a bill type of player

 

[j-man]

Hunter is a great prospect (right now) but pairing Nix with Luther Burden would do a lot to develop Nix and get that offense on track to be able to compete for a playoff spot.

not a bad call at long as denver can get a num 2 CB as well in FA or draft

 

[j-man]

https://www.milehighreport.com/2024/6/20/24182412/broncos-announce-that-they-have-hired-david-shaw-as-senior-personnel-executive

basiccy patyon has 2 years to get denver in the playoffs and if denver wins 4 games or less this year shaw will be the HC in 25

shaw is jim harbaugh without the nuttness part

 

[Curtis Pride]

From the article it looks like Shaw is more like Cesario was with BB. He's going to help Payton get the players who fit in his system. Shaw had coached with Payton before, so there's some familiarity between them.

 

[j-man]

thanks for the comment the other day i was looking at over the cap and denver has 169 mil in cap space for 2026 once ps ii gets taken care of that takes around 20 mil away

means unless nix is a top 12 qb out the gate denver is in for 2 more 5-12 7-10 type seasons because other than sutton and mins denver has noone that scareds u on off and i feel nix is a mac jones type in fact if i ran denver wouild have traded for mac and then drafted Bowers TE or T Arould CB

 

[j-man]

when denver plays at noon sunday i will try to livesteam my throuhs

 

[j-man]

sorry i was not feeling well i will type up my 02 in a hour or two

 

[j-man]

my gut 53 man roster
QB NIX stid
rb j williams mclaughin estime / watson
fb buton
wr suttion mims reynlods franklin/ T Patrick johnson vele
te trautman dulcich adiks / Kampmoyer
OL Bolles powers wattenberg meinerz mcg forsyth / crum pearl gairauio
DL ALLEN JFM Jones roach/ blackson
LB browning singletion barton bonito cooper ellis d sanders stinad/
CB PSII Moss matins j mcmallian KAD Locke jones DTY skinner/ key
K Lutz
P Dixon
LS Fraboni

PS Wilison hump dossett badie alex p jacobs krull kampmoyer e umauine incroom t smith L Bailey R taylor

saveing 3 pra squad spots for other players on other teams

nix played very well running game was much improved DL was much better but lack a pass rush if u take sutton out who steps up at wr

but if Nix can keep this up denver with peyton and 1 or 2 more good drafts are sit up to break out in 2026

 

[j-man]

NIX is the starter the game @ Sea will be the 4th or 5th toughest game of the season a win here and denver has a path to a 6-2 start
because Pitt has a bad off the bucs are sneakey good but if bad baker shows up who knows Jets is A L
Vegas and LAC should be home wins peyton going back to new O who knows no better than him and Car is bad

 

[j-man]

@ SEA - L
Pitt W
@ TB L
@ NYJ L
Vegas W
LAC W
@ NO W
CAR W
@ BALT L
@ KC L
ATL W
@ Vegas L
CLE W
INDY W
@ LAC L
@ CINY L
KC W

9-8

 

[j-man]

what i just worte about den on mhr
fou us to make the playoffs 1 or 2 of the teams have to underperform we play the West North and Jets Colts so i wont be fact them because beating them we can contal it Buff Mia Hou Jax if they all win 9 or 10 we are out

honestly our only path is 5-7 aga AFC and 5-0 aga NFC

best path is
1 hope KC wins 12 or 13 by week 18 so they sit their guys
2 go 8-0 at home
3 win 2 of these 5 road games @ TB @ SEA @ NO @ VEGAS @ LAC


their fornt page guys were talking about 11-12 wins this year which is nuts

 

[j-man]

denver might be in running for bill cleland as well again if denver wins only 1-2 games i think payton will resign so will the gm leaveing bill to be coach and gm for 3/4 years 2025 can be bill year zero because in 2026 denver will have 160 mil in room to go big game hunting only thing that works aga denver is location other than that he can have the power he wants denvers owners will not care what kraft think denver other than car and nyg has had the worst off in the league through 2 games i couild see a thing where lombrami gets denver gm job matt p gets denver dc job andMCD even through the fans would hate it be the OC

the Def is close all they need is 1 EDGE and 1 S Off needs 6-7 new starters over 2 offseasons

 

[j-man]

might as well update my thoughts on Denver after 2 weeks

OFF for now u have to give nix a pass because of
1 Payton love for 3-5 yard passes on every down and shotgun every down
2 The bad OL at pass blocking although Sea couild win the west and pitt might win the north
3 WR/TE Drops other than J Renldors i have counted around 8-10 drops from the first 2 weeks of play
4 No Running game at all worst running in the NFL so far
5 right now nix is mac jones but his coach is not doing him any favors with every down shotgun

the Def on the other hand other than a bad 3rd q in seattle and a bad game by PS2 has only allow 19.5 pts a game
1 Zach Allen might be the best DL in the NFL through 2 weeks
2 pass def is top 10 in the NFL
3 cooper and eillis are starting to flash at edge
4 more speed than last season on def
5 this season is shot but watch out for this team weeks 16-18 @ LAC @ CINY KC denver couild very well spoil CINY or LAC playoff hopes

 

[j-man]

time to update denver on 1 hand Off still has a long way to go and pass blk is not great but
thanks to INCY CLE CINY and vegas being worse than nomial
if denver wins sunday they have wild card tiebreak on NYJ Vegas LAC 2.5 game lead on ciny
a top 5 def and ST can carry u to 10 wins