2024 Bengals: What Can Brown Do For You?

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Speaking of IOL, if they continue to lose games, Kelvin Banks Jr. &/or Will Campbell might fall into their lap around 11 or so, especially if teams above them at need for OT view them more as a OG.

Then suddenly, you have a line of:

Brown/Banks Jr. or Campbell/Cappa?/???/Mims.

Brown, Banks Jr./Campbell, & Mims are good building blocks toward a better O-Line.
 

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I think they tag him. Question then is... speculation I've heard is his market is probably a 3rd plus. Curious where CIN goes with that... pay him the $30M a year plus on a longterm deal he wants, ride the tag again, or take the 3rd/5th or whatever from a team like NE or WAS or similar.
I don't think they're riding the tag again - they really can't afford the second tag cap hit when Burrow and Chase will be making much more. I also think if they tag him, they think they can get more than that. Calvin Ridley just got 4/92 at 29. Higgins is a much better player who will have just turned 26 - teams are going to have to compensate the Bengals appropriately if they want his services (even given the first sentence). I thought the trade was a sure thing up until the events of the past week where Burrow publicly warned the organization he wants him back and he switched agents to someone much more Bengals-friendly.

I just don't believe a good way to compete in the NFL is to shell out huge money for a QB and TWO WRs. You have to let one of the WRs go and Higgins is the guy who has to go.

Even though Hill was brilliant for Miami, it was very smart for KC to let him go and re-invest that money in the offensive line and the defense, and count on Mahomes being good enough to make up the difference.
I'm with you. I suppose the Colts made it work with Harrison and Wayne and the Eagles are trying it now, but those teams also draft better than the Bengals.

Hill was also seeking his third deal and the Chiefs already had their OL in place (they did that transformation in the '21 offseason), but it definitely allowed them to rebuild their defense and they haven't lost a playoff game since. I suppose the Bengals' hope is just to score a million points (that will require something better than the worst guards in the league) and be adequate enough on defense.

Speaking of IOL, if they continue to lose games, Kelvin Banks Jr. &/or Will Campbell might fall into their lap around 11 or so, especially if teams above them at need for OT view them more as a OG.

Then suddenly, you have a line of:

Brown/Banks Jr. or Campbell/Cappa?/???/Mims.

Brown, Banks Jr./Campbell, & Mims are good building blocks toward a better O-Line.
Cappa should be launched into the sun the second the new league year starts (or even sooner). I liked the signing and he was really good his first year in 2022, but the injury at the end of that year killed him the last two years. We also have three years of evidence Cordell Volson is nothing more than a very lower-tier starter - he needs to move to the bench (he was already benched against the Steelers before Brown got hurt again and they had to move Cody Ford back to tackle) in the last year of his rookie deal, so they need to find two guards. One option is to insert seventh-round pick Matt Lee at C and move Karras to G - he would bring much-needed athleticism to the unit, was seen as great value (probably since he's a C only) and played well in the preseason against starters. They would still need to sign an actual NFL starter and use a pick on one.
 

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I don't think they're riding the tag again - they really can't afford the second tag cap hit when Burrow and Chase will be making much more. I also think if they tag him, they think they can get more than that. Calvin Ridley just got 4/92 at 29. Higgins is a much better player who will have just turned 26 - teams are going to have to compensate the Bengals appropriately if they want his services (even given the first sentence). I thought the trade was a sure thing up until the events of the past week where Burrow publicly warned the organization he wants him back and he switched agents to someone much more Bengals-friendly.
The Ridley thing has no bearing other than the huge deal the other team has to give him. Tag and trades are usually in the 3rd/4th round range. Maybe you get a late 2nd if you get lucky, but usually you're talking a 3rd and maybe something minor. If the Bengals wanted to trade him for a lot they would have had to give him a long-term deal this year then trade him (where the control years and not paying the signing bonus are part of the value). Maybe a 2nd if they get a bidding war, but they aren't getting a huge haul.
 

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The Ridley thing has no bearing other than the huge deal the other team has to give him. Tag and trades are usually in the 3rd/4th round range. Maybe you get a late 2nd if you get lucky, but usually you're talking a 3rd and maybe something minor. If the Bengals wanted to trade him for a lot they would have had to give him a long-term deal this year then trade him (where the control years and not paying the signing bonus are part of the value). Maybe a 2nd if they get a bidding war, but they aren't getting a huge haul.
Higgins is the best WR scheduled to be a FA - Cooper is a nice player, but he'll be 31 and may have fallen off this year. He's been ranked as the top FA in the league. As Bengals Twitter CBA guy Andre Perrotta noted, the best comp is AJ Brown. Yes, Brown had a year left on his rookie deal vs. Higgins who would be double-tagged, but the point remains the Eagles gave up a first and third to get him and then extended him when they could have just waited a year. I don't expect that return for those reasons, but he's getting more than Sneed fetched for instance if he's traded. The stars are certainly aligning for them to sign him and make it moot though, for better or worse.
 

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Higgins is the best WR scheduled to be a FA - Cooper is a nice player, but he'll be 31 and may have fallen off this year. He's been ranked as the top FA in the league. As Bengals Twitter CBA guy Andre Perrotta noted, the best comp is AJ Brown. Yes, Brown had a year left on his rookie deal vs. Higgins who would be double-tagged, but the point remains the Eagles gave up a first and third to get him and then extended him when they could have just waited a year. I don't expect that return for those reasons, but he's getting more than Sneed fetched for instance if he's traded. The stars are certainly aligning for them to sign him and make it moot though, for better or worse.
Yeah that analysis is straight up bad, maybe he's good at the CBA, but but a tagged player and a player under contract are not good comparisons. The best comparison is probably Sneed last year who was the top player at a premium position (actually better, Sneed is a better CB than Higgins is WR) he was tagged and traded for a future 3rd and a late round swap. I think Higgins can get a bit more (current 3rd) because it's easier to sell a sexier position.
 

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Yeah that analysis is straight up bad, maybe he's good at the CBA, but but a tagged player and a player under contract are not good comparisons. The best comparison is probably Sneed last year who was the top player at a premium position (actually better, Sneed is a better CB than Higgins is WR) he was tagged and traded for a future 3rd and a late round swap. I think Higgins can get a bit more (current 3rd) because it's easier to sell a sexier position.
Sneed was a year older than Higgins will be too. I think teams (especially those with rookie QB deal windows) will be willing to give up decent compensation and sign Higgins.
 

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Sneed was a year older than Higgins will be too. I think teams (especially those with rookie QB deal windows) will be willing to give up decent compensation and sign Higgins.
Could be. I'm not nearly as clued in as you guys are, but if you have Drake Maye and - Bourne? Polk? - would you listen if you got offered, say, Higgins and a 4th for a second and a 6th?
 

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The Bengals won one of the worst games you'll ever see (10 total turnovers!), thanks to Will Levis doing Will Levis things. They got the slightest bit of help with the Dolphins and Chargers losses and you could argue the Broncos beating the Colts was the better result. They'll need to obviously win out, have the Dolphins and Colts lose one more game and the Broncos or Chargers to lose out. Given those two play each other Thursday in LA, the Bengals play the Broncos in Cincy next week and the Broncos play the Chiefs the last week (although they could be resting) while the Chargers get the Pats and Raiders, it's much more realistic albeit still very small to catch Denver.
 

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u are not catching the chargers because NE and vegas are 2 of the 4 or 5 worst teams and while the chargers could lose in ne i just do not see it here is what u need
1 KC to lose Sat or the 25th this wouild force KC to go all out in den
2 u need indy and mia to lose 1 more time INDY wins a 4 way tiebeark at 9-8
3 u need pitt to have their seed in stone in week 18
4 weird to say but there is a 40% of denver losing out denver is banged up might be without ps2 and moss for thur night
for your game aga denver u would to at least put up 35 + to beat den and as long as KC loses before den KC as a 2 seed does not want any part of den in the playoffs
 

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u are not catching the chargers because NE and vegas are 2 of the 4 or 5 worst teams and while the chargers could lose in ne i just do not see it here is what u need
1 KC to lose Sat or the 25th this wouild force KC to go all out in den
2 u need indy and mia to lose 1 more time INDY wins a 4 way tiebeark at 9-8
3 u need pitt to have their seed in stone in week 18
4 weird to say but there is a 40% of denver losing out denver is banged up might be without ps2 and moss for thur night
for your game aga denver u would to at least put up 35 + to beat den and as long as KC loses before den KC as a 2 seed does not want any part of den in the playoffs
Yeah, it's going to be pretty tough for the Chargers to lose out but I suppose stranger things have happened - after this week, the last two are on the road with one being a cross-country trip in the cold and the other a divisional rival. It would be pretty shitty if the Bengals lost a three-way tiebreaker with the Colts and Broncos with them having beaten Denver and the Colts losing to the Broncos, but them's the breaks.

I think the Bengals will have to do it the hard way if they're to get in - if Baltimore beats Pittsburgh this week (and they are 6.5-point favorites, although the Steelers have had their number) then Pittsburgh will more than likely have to win Week 18 to win the division. As you mentioned, the Broncos are in a bit of a tough spot - they won't be favored in any remaining games if Mahomes plays. They could use the Colts winning to muck up the tiebreaker since they would win a three-team one with the Bengals. That matchup in Cincy will definitely be compelling if the Bengals win and Broncos lose this week.

I would argue more the Chiefs don't want to see the Bengals in the playoffs, given how their meetings have played out and the Bengals' ceiling vs. the Broncos'. That being said, the Broncos have certainly earned where they're at and so have the Bengals for that matter. That home loss to the Pats Week 1 is just an impossibly bad stain that very well may keep them out of the playoffs.
 

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that pats loss is a killer for u so is the chager loss as well
Pretty much every loss is some kind of insane what-if aside from the Eagles (where it was a game in the second half before the Bengals ran the most hideous third and fourth and 1 plays in their own territory) and Steelers. That's why they have the lowest strength of victory in the league outside Carolina and will lose any tiebreaker aside from a two-teamer with Denver. When you treat the start of the season like training camp and turtle in every big moment though, that's what can happen.
 

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Pretty much every loss is some kind of insane what-if aside from the Eagles (where it was a game in the second half before the Bengals ran the most hideous third and fourth and 1 plays in their own territory) and Steelers. That's why they have the lowest strength of victory in the league outside Carolina and will lose any tiebreaker aside from a two-teamer with Denver. When you treat the start of the season like training camp and turtle in every big moment though, that's what can happen.
that true the sad part is i rooted for ciny most of the year i never denver wouild be this good this quick i was pushing 2026 but the diff is pation the GM drafted very well in his 4 drafts which i will go in to on my page
 

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The Bengals did what they had to do I suppose, beating the hapless Browns thanks to two red-zone turnovers and Burrow doing stuff like this. Unfortunately, they didn't get any of the help they needed with KC, Miami and Indianapolis all winning, so they're still going to need a miracle. They need the Steelers to beat the Chiefs Wednesday which will force KC to play their starters Week 18 against Denver (assuming the Bills beat the Jets) and then obviously take care of business themselves at home against Denver Saturday, which is no easy feat. Both Miami and Indianapolis won the games yesterday they were most likely to lose, so they need one of CLE/NYJ (at least they're both in the cold) to beat Miami and one of NYG/JAX to beat the Colts.
 

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well i think NYG beats the colts
but miami will beat cle unless the weather is bad
right now i think ciny will beat den because if denver wins the week 18 Sch is bad ex for sea @ rams i dont think the NFL wants 7 hrs of meanless football ex for seeding if ciny wins then KC @ den ciny @ pitt are huge games now if den plays like they did aga ATL it wont matther but since the cle game denver has been off if not for nik botto denver would also be 7-8 as well if riley moss plays its 50/50 if he does not its 90/10 ciny
 

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well i think NYG beats the colts
but miami will beat cle unless the weather is bad
right now i think ciny will beat den because if denver wins the week 18 Sch is bad ex for sea @ rams i dont think the NFL wants 7 hrs of meanless football ex for seeding if ciny wins then KC @ den ciny @ pitt are huge games now if den plays like they did aga ATL it wont matther but since the cle game denver has been off if not for nik botto denver would also be 7-8 as well if riley moss plays its 50/50 if he does not its 90/10 ciny
I certainly hope it comes true, but quite the bold statement the Giants beat the Colts considering they've lost 10 in a row and haven't won a home game - they would be the first team to ever go 0-9 at home, so that's something. Unfortunately, it's only supposed to be around 50 in Cleveland Sunday and as we've seen, DTR is pretty awful.

Saturday will be interesting for sure. The Bengals really need Amarius Mims back - he missed the second half yesterday and as you would expect, the offense was pretty nonfunctional with Cody Ford and Devin Cochran at tackle to go along with their awful guards. Moss would certainly be a big return, and the Broncos played the Bengals as well as anyone defensively the last time they met in 2021. The Bengals definitely get a boost from being the more desperate team and at home, but they'll need to play their best to win.
 

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in indy 7 wins they have only won by 1 score so it will be close
well fagio is a top 3 DC joseph is in the 10-15 range denver loves to all out birtz esp up the middle ciny is going to have to score 28+ or 35 to win if moss is back denver might been the only team to have 4 good CB's denver 5th round rookie CB has been a find plus bonito and cooper are underrated edge guys that is good for 1-2 sacks a game when nix is on he is a bordline top 10 qb but when he get happy feet or throws too much he can get pick happy
 

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The Bengals fired DC Lou Anarumo, DL coach Marion Hobby, LB coach James Bettcher and OL coach Frank Pollack. I thought Anarumo might've saved his job the last five weeks albeit against bad offenses, but they were so bad up to that point (after a bad year last year) it was too much to overcome. It appears the scheme was too complex for what they should've been running leading to tons of blown assignments and it took him way too long to turn to younger guys over washed veterans.

Hobby's group was the biggest disappointment, as everyone in the main rotation was either a Day 1-2 pick on a rookie deal or a veteran making eight figures a year - they invested a bunch of draft capital there in the 21-23 drafts and the development simply hasn't happened. They haven't invested in LB forever but both mainstays Logan Wilson and Germaine Pratt have fallen off the last couple years. Pollack was often asked to make chicken salad out of uhh, less than chicken salad, but they haven't had an above-average line during his four years (and well before Burrow), as Cordell Volson still couldn't pick up a stunt in Year 3 and Alex Cappa completely cratered. I think it's just time for a new voice and a commitment to more athletic linemen.
 

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As expected, the Bengals dug themselves too big a hole despite a five-game winning streak to end the year. This concludes their second straight playoff-less 9-8 campaign, except this one is much worse because it had a healthy Burrow (except for possible Weeks 1-2 rust off last year's injury) all season. In fact, they were the first team ever to have the passing, receiving and sack leader - to not even make the playoffs with that means some heads need to roll and they did with the firings of DC Lou Anarumo, DL coach Marion Hobby, LB coach James Bettcher and OL coach Frank Pollack as mentioned above. Here are some thoughts on almost everyone and where things stand going forward:

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Joe Burrow – put together his best season and should be an MVP candidate in a world where wins and losses aren't a QB stat. Yes, having two bigtime WRs certainly help but he did it without Higgins for five games, his best lineman not finishing among their top five OL in snaps, the worst guard tandem in the league and a scheme that makes life very hard on the QB - to be fair, he wants it that way. This should be the team's absolute floor as long as he plays like this and he will have them back on Championship Sunday sooner than later if they can build properly around him.

RB

Chase Brown – second-year back was a legit RB1 down the stretch after being stuck in a committee to open the year, averaging 24 touches a game his last eight games while being near the top in success rate despite a bad OL and contributing in the passing game. I don't think he's a true bell cow, but he’s definitely the heavy half of a committee and should be in store for a big year.

Zack Moss – FA signee was stuck in mud before season-ending neck injury in practice midway through the year. Should be an easy cut going into the last year of his deal.

Khalil Herbert – midseason acquisition for seventh-rounder handled himself decently, including last game of the season with Brown out. Not the bruiser they’d ideally have as a complement to Brown, but wouldn’t mind seeing him back as a third back and an option at kick returner.

WR

Ja’Marr Chase – superstar ascended to league WR1 after winning triple crown in age 24 season. They’ll have to back up the truck for him even more after failing to extend him this offseason, but he’s worth all of it and more.

Tee Higgins – played on the franchise tag and missed five games, but probably had his best year when he was on the field. It was a foregone conclusion forever he was gone after this year, but he fired Bengals nemesis agent David Mulugheta and moved to Rocky Arceneaux who also represents Chase. Burrow has spoken multiple times publicly in the last month how important he is – I expect them to work on a long-term deal the next few weeks and franchise him again, if necessary, with the expectation of doing so.

Andrei Iosivas – second-year sixth-rounder proved pleasant surprise as WR3, converting his athleticism into production and continuing to be a red zone weapon as he has 10 career TDs in under 1200 snaps.

Jermaine Burton – absolute nightmare scenario for rookie third-rounder, as emotional maturity issues rendered themselves in being a disciplinary inactive for two games, one of which he missed a walkthrough where he was going to be WR2 that week and the last game of the season as he’s apparently been evicted. It wasn’t any better on the field, as he was rarely ever on the same page as Burrow. I suppose he carved out a role as a good kick returner, but that’s it. I’d still try to salvage something, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s cut and the chances of ever being a significant contributor have taken a huge hit.

Charlie Jones – second-year fourth-rounder had another lost season with ineffectiveness and injury. Already 26, it’s getting very late early and will have to fight for a spot next year.

Isaiah Williams – midseason scrap-heap pickup showed some juice in the kick and punt return games and could have a gadget role on offense with a full offseason.

TE

Mike Gesicki – played for his third team in as many years, but did a good job and essentially was Higgins’ replacement in the games he missed. He might price himself out as Burrow has gotten JAG TEs (CJ Uzomah and Hayden Hurst) paid, but would like to have him back if the price is reasonable.

Drew Sample – blocking extraordinaire should be back in second year of three-year deal.

Erick All – rookie fourth-rounder was coming along as their most complete TE in forever before tearing same ACL again in November. The ceiling is still there if he can rebound, but that’s three major injuries in as many years and obviously can’t be counted on.

Tanner Hudson – journeyman TE came on a bit down the stretch last year, but had absolute killer fumble Week 1 and doesn’t know where to line up half the time. I don’t want to see him in stripes again.

OL

Orlando Brown Jr. – stalwart LT had missed one game due to injury in six years prior to this year before hurting his leg Week 7 (which turned out to be at least partially broken) and having the team stupidly rush him back the next week before missing a month and looking terrible when he came back, being shut down again for another few weeks and playing as well as he could (a shutout against Nik Bonitto on one leg isn’t too bad) the last two weeks. It’s a real shame he got hurt, as he was playing maybe his best ball before then. Unfortunately, it becomes a concern now as a huge guy with a lower-body injury heading into age 29 season.

Cordell Volson – third-year guard was headed into sink or swim season and, well, he sunk. You just cannot have a guard with this lack of athleticism (who can’t pick up a simple stunt either) in an offense with this many true pass sets, and the Bengals finally realized it as he was benched at the end of the year when their five best linemen were healthy. He shouldn’t even be part of a competition heading into his last year of rookie deal and should be relegated to a reserve role and maybe as an extra OL in jumbo sets.

Ted Karras – leader of OL got one-year extension through next year after minicamp. Doesn’t provide much in the run game due to lack of athleticism but holds up well enough in protection. I imagine this will be his final year coming up at 32.

Alex Cappa – was worth every penny in 2022 when they signed him 30 seconds into free agency, but leg injury at end of that year has torpedoed his career. Like Volson, he simply cannot be counted on in this offense and was on his ass more times than I could count. He’s a slam-dunk cut candidate with one year left on his deal.

Amarius Mims – rookie first-rounder showed his ceiling after being inserted into the lineup Week 3, as he’s pretty much immovable while having really quick feet. He was beaten a few times on inside moves and needs to get better in the run game, but the franchise tackle ability is certainly there. Unfortunately, health continues to be an issue as he missed a bunch of the preseason and the first two games with a pec injury and then broke his hand late.

Cody Ford – reserve OL did as well as he could I suppose in three different spots, but you don’t want him playing as many snaps as he did. Ideally, he’s just a reserve guard as he heads back to free agency.

DE

Trey Hendrickson – longtime dominant pass rusher won the sack title and has a shot at DPOY in a year where there are no true standout candidates. Heading into the final year of his deal with a one-year extension at age 30, but I would have no qualms extending him again – they need to, because he’s not going to be as nice as he was this past offseason about requesting a trade.

Sam Hubbard – played his second straight year through a major injury and looked completely finished. The single biggest culprit of why they had zero pass rush outside Hendrickson and has to be cut with one year left on his deal heading into age 30 season.

Myles Murphy – second-year first-rounder was poised for a breakout season but it was anything but. Knee sprain in preseason had him on IR to start the year and he’s just been unable to disengage from OL which is how you end up with zero sacks. Hopefully a new DC who won’t bury him and DL coach who can get the most out of him will unlock his potential, as he still just turned 23.

Joseph Ossai – struggled through various injuries his first three years but put best year together in final year of rookie deal playing inside in nickel packages. I think he’ll be a very good FA signing for someone as he’s still only 24, but I don’t think it’ll be the Bengals as he’s represented by Mulugheta.

Cedric Johnson – rookie sixth-rounder made a couple plays down the stretch. I think he has nickel rusher ceiling which hopefully new DL coach can realize.

DT

BJ Hill – was clearly their second-best defender (damning with faint praise a little) but he could still play in final year of three-year deal. Unfortunately, I think he’s going to be priced out as they need to get younger and cheaper there with more pass rush. He can still play the run really well though.

Sheldon Rankins – marquee FA signing was complete bust before going down with an illness right before Week 11 and was never seen or heard from again – another slam-dunk cut with one year left on deal.

Kris Jenkins Jr. – rookie second-rounder had a tough start missing first two games with a thumb injury and then having to play with a club for a couple games. Definitely flashed some as a run defender, but pass rush was pretty nonexistent and needs to improve there.

McKinnley Jackson – rookie third-rounder was probably a little overdrafted (the analytics community certainly thought so) but put together some of his best games down the stretch after missing the first month due to a knee injury. Excited to see what he can do in his second year.

LB

Logan Wilson – had another down year in coverage, which is probably an issue now headed into age 29 season as he also missed the last month with a knee injury. Would like to see them invest a little there (which they haven’t in forever) and restock the cupboard.

Germaine Pratt – has made a ton of big plays in his career but looked incredibly slow in sixth year and I hope they cut him with one year left, especially with new DC and LB coach.

Akeem Davis-Gaither – played decently down the stretch filling in for Wilson and is special teams stalwart. Played this year on one-year deal and I hope they bring him back.

CB

Cam Taylor-Britt – formerly ascending player had bad third year, being benched multiple times – I think the one-handed INT early in the year in KC got into his head as his technique really suffered. Was once a likely extension candidate heading into final year of rookie deal next year, but can’t imagine they want to commit now and will make him play it out.

Dax Hill – former first-rounder and converted safety played the best ball of his career the first month before tearing his ACL Week 5. I don’t think they can pick up his fifth-year option based on that little a sample, but I would try to buy low on a cheaper deal with more years – if he can get over the injury, the ability is certainly there.

Mike Hilton - slot extraordinaire has been an incredible value on four-year deal from Pittsburgh as he heads to FA. His excellent instincts are still there, but he'll be 31 and has lost a step. Similar to BJ Hill, I think they'll let him walk and try to get younger and cheaper.

DJ Turner – second-year player started to come on before breaking his clavicle Week 11. He can play, but his frame will always put him at higher injury risk.

Josh Newton – rookie fifth-rounder held his own (albeit with some rookie fifth-rounder mistakes) as a starter the last month of the year and will be valuable reserve with some slot potential.

DJ Ivey – second-year player came back from ACL and put up some competitive reps as well as being a core special teams player.

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Geno Stone – signed to fill deep safety role but was horrible for first three months in coverage and as a tackler. Salvaged his season a little picking off a bunch of bad QBs the last month, but needs to be much better going into last year of deal – I would cut him but they won’t. I suppose there’s some hope as he’s still only 25.

Jordan Battle – second-year player was supposed to break out in starting role, but they brought back Vonn Bell before the year and then Battle missed meetings while playing poorly when he got in the game. Played decently well late in the year after becoming starter again and hopefully can put a full offseason together and become a pro.

Vonn Bell – longtime veteran was brought back after a year in Carolina to fix the communication issues that plagued them in 2023. Not only did that not happen, but he was predictably finished and was a huge part of the defense’s struggles. I imagine this could be the end of the line at 30.

ST

Ryan Rehkow – CFA punter was their best at the position in years with huge leg and decent touch. Needs to work on his holding as that cost them at least one game and whole FG operation was awful.

Evan McPherson – newly-extended kicker had terrible year, missing numerous kicks he should’ve made and likely costing them games before groin injury landed him on IR the last month. He can certainly get back to what he was before, but it can also go south real fast for kickers and never come back. I’m not sure if they’ll bring in competition, but he’ll certainly be under a microscope next year.

The first orders of business should be to extend Chase, Higgins and Hendrickson and remove any distractions that may have plagued the locker room last year – they certainly played that way Week 1. They also need two new guards (hopefully seventh-rounder Matt Lee can be one), a DT that can push the pocket and another legitimate DE in addition to other various needs. Ultimately, their trajectory mostly hinges on the 22-24 draft classes who need to put together a big year. Hopefully, some new blood in the coaching staff can help them realize it because they just cannot waste seasons like this anymore.
 
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As expected, the Bengals dug themselves too big a hole despite a five-game winning streak to end the year. This concludes their second straight playoff-less 9-8 campaign, except this one is much worse because it had a healthy Burrow (except for possible Weeks 1-2 rust off last year's injury) all season. In fact, they were the first team ever to have the passing, receiving and sack leader - to not even make the playoffs with that means some heads need to roll and they did with the firings of DC Lou Anarumo, DL coach Marion Hobby, LB coach James Bettcher and OL coach Frank Pollack as mentioned above. Here are some thoughts on almost everyone and where things stand going forward:

QB

Joe Burrow – put together his best season and should be an MVP candidate in a world where wins and losses aren't a QB stat. Yes, having two bigtime WRs certainly help but he did it without Higgins for five games, his best lineman not finishing among their top five OL in snaps, the worst guard tandem in the league and a scheme that makes life very hard on the QB - to be fair, he wants it that way. This should be the team's absolute floor as long as he plays like this and he will have them back on Championship Sunday sooner than later if they can build properly around him.

RB

Chase Brown – second-year back was a legit RB1 down the stretch after being stuck in a committee to open the year, averaging 24 touches a game his last eight games while being near the top in success rate despite a bad OL and contributing in the passing game. I don't think he's a true bell cow, but he’s definitely the heavy half of a committee and should be in store for a big year.

Zack Moss – FA signee was stuck in mud before season-ending neck injury in practice midway through the year. Should be an easy cut going into the last year of his deal.

Khalil Herbert – midseason acquisition for seventh-rounder handled himself decently, including last game of the season with Brown out. Not the bruiser they’d ideally have as a complement to Brown, but wouldn’t mind seeing him back as a third back and an option at kick returner.

WR

Ja’Marr Chase – superstar ascended to league WR1 after winning triple crown in age 24 season. They’ll have to back up the truck for him even more after failing to extend him this offseason, but he’s worth all of it and more.

Tee Higgins – played on the franchise tag and missed five games, but probably had his best year when he was on the field. It was a foregone conclusion forever he was gone after this year, but he fired Bengals nemesis agent David Mulugheta and moved to Rocky Arceneaux who also represents Chase. Burrow has spoken multiple times publicly in the last month how important he is – I expect them to work on a long-term deal the next few weeks and franchise him again, if necessary, with the expectation of doing so.

Andrei Iosivas – second-year sixth-rounder proved pleasant surprise as WR3, converting his athleticism into production and continuing to be a red zone weapon as he has 10 career TDs in under 1200 snaps.

Jermaine Burton – absolute nightmare scenario for rookie third-rounder, as emotional maturity issues rendered themselves in being a disciplinary inactive for two games, one of which he missed a walkthrough where he was going to be WR2 that week and the last game of the season as he’s apparently been evicted. It wasn’t any better on the field, as he was rarely ever on the same page as Burrow. I suppose he carved out a role as a good kick returner, but that’s it. I’d still try to salvage something, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s cut and the chances of ever being a significant contributor have taken a huge hit.

Charlie Jones – second-year fourth rounder had another lost season with ineffectiveness and injury. Already 26, it’s getting very late early and will have to fight for a spot next year.

Isaiah Williams – midseason scrap-heap pickup showed some juice in the kick and punt return games and could have a gadget role on offense with a full offseason.

TE

Mike Gesicki – played for his third team in as many years, but did a good job and essentially was Higgins’ replacement in the games he missed. He might price himself out as Burrow has gotten JAG TEs (CJ Uzomah and Hayden Hurst) paid, but would like to have him back if the price is reasonable.

Drew Sample – blocking extraordinaire should be back in second year of three-year deal.

Erick All – rookie fourth-rounder was coming along as their most complete TE in forever before tearing same ACL again in November. The ceiling is still there if he can rebound, but that’s three major injuries in as many years and obviously can’t be counted on.

Tanner Hudson – journeyman TE came on a bit down the stretch last year, but had absolute killer fumble Week 1 and doesn’t know where to line up half the time. I don’t want to see him in stripes again.

OL

Orlando Brown Jr. – stalwart LT had missed one game due to injury in six years prior to this year before hurting his leg Week 7 (which turned out to be at least partially broken) and having the team stupidly rush him back the next week before missing a month and looking terrible when he came back, being shut down again for another few weeks and playing as well as he could (a shutout against Nik Bonitto on one leg isn’t too bad) the last two weeks. It’s a real shame he got hurt, as he was playing maybe his best ball before then. Unfortunately, it becomes a concern now as a huge guy with a lower-body injury heading into age 29 season.

Cordell Volson – third-year guard was headed into sink or swim season and, well, he sunk. You just cannot have a guard with this lack of athleticism (who can’t pick up a simple stunt either) in an offense with this many true pass sets, and the Bengals finally realized it as he was benched at the end of the year when their five best linemen were healthy. He shouldn’t even be part of a competition heading into his last year of rookie deal and should be relegated to a reserve role and maybe as an extra OL in jumbo sets.

Ted Karras – leader of OL got one-year extension through next year after minicamp. Doesn’t provide much in the run game due to lack of athleticism but holds up well enough in protection. I imagine this will be his final year coming up at 32.

Alex Cappa – was worth every penny in 2022 when they signed him 30 seconds into free agency, but leg injury at end of that year has torpedoed his career. Like Volson, he simply cannot be counted on in this offense and was on his ass more times than I could count. He’s a slam-dunk cut candidate with one year left on his deal.

Amarius Mims – rookie first-rounder showed his ceiling after being inserted into the lineup Week 3, as he’s pretty much immovable while having really quick feet. He was beaten a few times on inside moves and needs to get better in the run game, but the franchise tackle ability is certainly there. Unfortunately, health continues to be an issue as he missed a bunch of the preseason and the first two games with a pec injury and then broke his hand late.

Cody Ford – reserve OL did as well as he could I suppose in three different spots, but you don’t want him playing as many snaps as he did. Ideally, he’s just a reserve guard as he heads back to free agency.

DE

Trey Hendrickson – longtime dominant pass rusher won the sack title and has a shot at DPOY in a year where there are no dominant candidates. Heading into the final year of his deal with a one-year extension at age 30, but I would have no qualms extending him again – they need to, because he’s not going to be as nice as he was this past offseason about requesting a trade.

Sam Hubbard – played through his second straight year with a major injury and looked completely finished. The single biggest culprit of why they had zero pass rush outside Hendrickson and has to be cut with one year left on his deal heading into age 30 season.

Myles Murphy – second-year first-rounder was poised for a breakout season but it was anything but. Knee sprain in preseason had him on IR to start the year and he’s just been unable to disengage from OL which is how you end up with zero sacks. Hopefully a new DC who won’t bury him and DL coach who can get the most out of him will unlock his potential, as he still just turned 23.

Joseph Ossai – struggled through various injuries his first three years but put best year together in final year of rookie deal playing inside in nickel packages. I think he’ll be a very good FA signing for someone as he’s still only 24, but I don’t think it’ll be the Bengals as he’s represented by Mulugheta.

Cedric Johnson – rookie sixth-rounder made a couple plays down the stretch. I think he has nickel rusher ceiling which hopefully new DL coach can realize.

DT

BJ Hill – was clearly their second-best defender (damning with faint praise a little) but he could still play in final year of three-year deal. Unfortunately, I think he’s going to be priced out as they need to get younger and cheaper there with more pass rush. He can still play the run really well though.

Sheldon Rankins – marquee FA signing was complete bust before going down with an illness right before Week 11 and was never seen or heard from again – another slam-dunk cut with one year left on deal.

Kris Jenkins Jr. – rookie second-rounder had a tough start missing first two games with a thumb injury and then having to play with a club for a couple games. Definitely flashed some as a run defender, but pass rush was pretty nonexistent and needs to improve there.

McKinnley Jackson – rookie third-rounder was probably a little overdrafted (the analytics community certainly thought so) but put together some of his best games down the stretch after missing the first month due to a knee injury. Excited to see what he can do in his second year.

LB

Logan Wilson – had another down year in coverage, which is probably an issue now headed into age 29 season as he also missed the last month with a knee injury. Would like to see them invest a little there (which they haven’t in forever) and restock the cupboard.

Germaine Pratt – has made a ton of big plays in his career but looked incredibly slow in sixth year and I hope they cut him with one year left, especially with new DC and LB coach.

Akeem Davis-Gaither – played decently down the stretch filling in for Wilson and is special teams stalwart. Played this year on one-year deal and I hope they bring him back.

CB

Cam Taylor-Britt – formerly ascending player had bad third year, being benched multiple times – I think the one-handed INT early in the year in KC really got into his head as his technique really suffered. Was once a likely extension candidate heading into final year of rookie deal next year, but can’t imagine they want to commit now and will make him play it out.

Dax Hill – former first-rounder and converted safety played the best ball of his career the first month before tearing his ACL Week 5. I don’t think they can pick up his fifth-year option based on that little a sample, but I would try to buy low on a cheaper deal with more years – if he can get over the injury, the ability is certainly there.

DJ Turner – second-year player started to come on before breaking his clavicle Week 11. He can play, but his frame will always put him at higher injury risk.

Josh Newton – rookie fifth-rounder held his own (albeit with some rookie fifth-rounder mistakes) as a starter the last month of the year and will be valuable reserve with some slot potential.

DJ Ivey – second-year player came back from ACL and put up some competitive reps as well as being a core special teams player.

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Geno Stone – signed to fill deep safety role but was horrible for first three months in coverage and as a tackler. Salvaged his season a little picking off a bunch of bad QBs the last month, but needs to be much better going into last year of deal – I would cut him but they won’t. I suppose there’s some hope as he’s still only 25.

Jordan Battle – second-year player was supposed to break out in starting role, but they brought back Vonn Bell before the year and then Battle missed meetings while playing poorly when he got in the game. Played decently well late in the year after becoming starter again and hopefully can put a full offseason together and become a pro.

Vonn Bell – longtime veteran was brought back after a year in Carolina to fix the communication issues that plagued them in 2023. Not only did that not happen, but he was predictably finished and was a huge part of the defense’s struggles. I imagine this could be the end of the line at 30.

ST

Ryan Rehkow – CFA punter was their best at the position in years with huge leg and decent touch. Needs to work on his holding as that cost them at least one game and whole FG operation was awful.

Evan McPherson – newly-extended kicker had terrible year, missing numerous kicks he should’ve made and likely costing them games before groin injury landed him on IR the last month. He can certainly get back to what he was before, but it can also go south real fast for kickers and never come back. I’m not sure if they’ll bring in competition, but he’ll certainly be under a microscope next year.

The first orders of business should be to extend Chase, Higgins and Hendrickson and remove any distractions that may have plagued the locker room last year – they certainly played that way Week 1. They also need two new guards (hopefully seventh-rounder Matt Lee can be one), a DT that can push the pocket and another legitimate DE in addition to other various needs. Ultimately, their trajectory mostly hinges on the 22-24 draft classes who need to put together a big year. Hopefully, some new blood in the coaching staff can help them realize it because they just cannot waste seasons like this anymore.
You really think they need to sign Higgins long term? He's great but with Chase I would think they need to allocate those resources across the roster. If they can franchise him and get someone to bite on a good trade package, I think that's the better move. Hard for fans but better for the team.
 

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I just don't see the value in signing Higgins to a market-rate contract, while also making Chase by-far the highest paid WR in the league. Having Chase and Higgins with Burrow is awesome--it also has the team at 9-8, missing out on the playoffs, with a lot of holes all over the roster that really need to be addressed.
 

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As expected, the Bengals dug themselves too big a hole despite a five-game winning streak to end the year. This concludes their second straight playoff-less 9-8 campaign, except this one is much worse because it had a healthy Burrow (except for possible Weeks 1-2 rust off last year's injury) all season. In fact, they were the first team ever to have the passing, receiving and sack leader - to not even make the playoffs with that means some heads need to roll and they did with the firings of DC Lou Anarumo, DL coach Marion Hobby, LB coach James Bettcher and OL coach Frank Pollack as mentioned above. Here are some thoughts on almost everyone and where things stand going forward:
Just wanted to say, this is an incredible rundown. If you do this for every team before the 2025 season, you could make a lot of money selling the breakdown info to fantasy players.
 

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As expected, the Bengals dug themselves too big a hole despite a five-game winning streak to end the year. This concludes their second straight playoff-less 9-8 campaign, except this one is much worse because it had a healthy Burrow (except for possible Weeks 1-2 rust off last year's injury) all season. In fact, they were the first team ever to have the passing, receiving and sack leader - to not even make the playoffs with that means some heads need to roll and they did with the firings of DC Lou Anarumo, DL coach Marion Hobby, LB coach James Bettcher and OL coach Frank Pollack as mentioned above. Here are some thoughts on almost everyone and where things stand going forward:

QB

Joe Burrow – put together his best season and should be an MVP candidate in a world where wins and losses aren't a QB stat. Yes, having two bigtime WRs certainly help but he did it without Higgins for five games, his best lineman not finishing among their top five OL in snaps, the worst guard tandem in the league and a scheme that makes life very hard on the QB - to be fair, he wants it that way. This should be the team's absolute floor as long as he plays like this and he will have them back on Championship Sunday sooner than later if they can build properly around him.

RB

Chase Brown – second-year back was a legit RB1 down the stretch after being stuck in a committee to open the year, averaging 24 touches a game his last eight games while being near the top in success rate despite a bad OL and contributing in the passing game. I don't think he's a true bell cow, but he’s definitely the heavy half of a committee and should be in store for a big year.

Zack Moss – FA signee was stuck in mud before season-ending neck injury in practice midway through the year. Should be an easy cut going into the last year of his deal.

Khalil Herbert – midseason acquisition for seventh-rounder handled himself decently, including last game of the season with Brown out. Not the bruiser they’d ideally have as a complement to Brown, but wouldn’t mind seeing him back as a third back and an option at kick returner.

WR

Ja’Marr Chase – superstar ascended to league WR1 after winning triple crown in age 24 season. They’ll have to back up the truck for him even more after failing to extend him this offseason, but he’s worth all of it and more.

Tee Higgins – played on the franchise tag and missed five games, but probably had his best year when he was on the field. It was a foregone conclusion forever he was gone after this year, but he fired Bengals nemesis agent David Mulugheta and moved to Rocky Arceneaux who also represents Chase. Burrow has spoken multiple times publicly in the last month how important he is – I expect them to work on a long-term deal the next few weeks and franchise him again, if necessary, with the expectation of doing so.

Andrei Iosivas – second-year sixth-rounder proved pleasant surprise as WR3, converting his athleticism into production and continuing to be a red zone weapon as he has 10 career TDs in under 1200 snaps.

Jermaine Burton – absolute nightmare scenario for rookie third-rounder, as emotional maturity issues rendered themselves in being a disciplinary inactive for two games, one of which he missed a walkthrough where he was going to be WR2 that week and the last game of the season as he’s apparently been evicted. It wasn’t any better on the field, as he was rarely ever on the same page as Burrow. I suppose he carved out a role as a good kick returner, but that’s it. I’d still try to salvage something, but I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s cut and the chances of ever being a significant contributor have taken a huge hit.

Charlie Jones – second-year fourth rounder had another lost season with ineffectiveness and injury. Already 26, it’s getting very late early and will have to fight for a spot next year.

Isaiah Williams – midseason scrap-heap pickup showed some juice in the kick and punt return games and could have a gadget role on offense with a full offseason.

TE

Mike Gesicki – played for his third team in as many years, but did a good job and essentially was Higgins’ replacement in the games he missed. He might price himself out as Burrow has gotten JAG TEs (CJ Uzomah and Hayden Hurst) paid, but would like to have him back if the price is reasonable.

Drew Sample – blocking extraordinaire should be back in second year of three-year deal.

Erick All – rookie fourth-rounder was coming along as their most complete TE in forever before tearing same ACL again in November. The ceiling is still there if he can rebound, but that’s three major injuries in as many years and obviously can’t be counted on.

Tanner Hudson – journeyman TE came on a bit down the stretch last year, but had absolute killer fumble Week 1 and doesn’t know where to line up half the time. I don’t want to see him in stripes again.

OL

Orlando Brown Jr. – stalwart LT had missed one game due to injury in six years prior to this year before hurting his leg Week 7 (which turned out to be at least partially broken) and having the team stupidly rush him back the next week before missing a month and looking terrible when he came back, being shut down again for another few weeks and playing as well as he could (a shutout against Nik Bonitto on one leg isn’t too bad) the last two weeks. It’s a real shame he got hurt, as he was playing maybe his best ball before then. Unfortunately, it becomes a concern now as a huge guy with a lower-body injury heading into age 29 season.

Cordell Volson – third-year guard was headed into sink or swim season and, well, he sunk. You just cannot have a guard with this lack of athleticism (who can’t pick up a simple stunt either) in an offense with this many true pass sets, and the Bengals finally realized it as he was benched at the end of the year when their five best linemen were healthy. He shouldn’t even be part of a competition heading into his last year of rookie deal and should be relegated to a reserve role and maybe as an extra OL in jumbo sets.

Ted Karras – leader of OL got one-year extension through next year after minicamp. Doesn’t provide much in the run game due to lack of athleticism but holds up well enough in protection. I imagine this will be his final year coming up at 32.

Alex Cappa – was worth every penny in 2022 when they signed him 30 seconds into free agency, but leg injury at end of that year has torpedoed his career. Like Volson, he simply cannot be counted on in this offense and was on his ass more times than I could count. He’s a slam-dunk cut candidate with one year left on his deal.

Amarius Mims – rookie first-rounder showed his ceiling after being inserted into the lineup Week 3, as he’s pretty much immovable while having really quick feet. He was beaten a few times on inside moves and needs to get better in the run game, but the franchise tackle ability is certainly there. Unfortunately, health continues to be an issue as he missed a bunch of the preseason and the first two games with a pec injury and then broke his hand late.

Cody Ford – reserve OL did as well as he could I suppose in three different spots, but you don’t want him playing as many snaps as he did. Ideally, he’s just a reserve guard as he heads back to free agency.

DE

Trey Hendrickson – longtime dominant pass rusher won the sack title and has a shot at DPOY in a year where there are no dominant candidates. Heading into the final year of his deal with a one-year extension at age 30, but I would have no qualms extending him again – they need to, because he’s not going to be as nice as he was this past offseason about requesting a trade.

Sam Hubbard – played through his second straight year with a major injury and looked completely finished. The single biggest culprit of why they had zero pass rush outside Hendrickson and has to be cut with one year left on his deal heading into age 30 season.

Myles Murphy – second-year first-rounder was poised for a breakout season but it was anything but. Knee sprain in preseason had him on IR to start the year and he’s just been unable to disengage from OL which is how you end up with zero sacks. Hopefully a new DC who won’t bury him and DL coach who can get the most out of him will unlock his potential, as he still just turned 23.

Joseph Ossai – struggled through various injuries his first three years but put best year together in final year of rookie deal playing inside in nickel packages. I think he’ll be a very good FA signing for someone as he’s still only 24, but I don’t think it’ll be the Bengals as he’s represented by Mulugheta.

Cedric Johnson – rookie sixth-rounder made a couple plays down the stretch. I think he has nickel rusher ceiling which hopefully new DL coach can realize.

DT

BJ Hill – was clearly their second-best defender (damning with faint praise a little) but he could still play in final year of three-year deal. Unfortunately, I think he’s going to be priced out as they need to get younger and cheaper there with more pass rush. He can still play the run really well though.

Sheldon Rankins – marquee FA signing was complete bust before going down with an illness right before Week 11 and was never seen or heard from again – another slam-dunk cut with one year left on deal.

Kris Jenkins Jr. – rookie second-rounder had a tough start missing first two games with a thumb injury and then having to play with a club for a couple games. Definitely flashed some as a run defender, but pass rush was pretty nonexistent and needs to improve there.

McKinnley Jackson – rookie third-rounder was probably a little overdrafted (the analytics community certainly thought so) but put together some of his best games down the stretch after missing the first month due to a knee injury. Excited to see what he can do in his second year.

LB

Logan Wilson – had another down year in coverage, which is probably an issue now headed into age 29 season as he also missed the last month with a knee injury. Would like to see them invest a little there (which they haven’t in forever) and restock the cupboard.

Germaine Pratt – has made a ton of big plays in his career but looked incredibly slow in sixth year and I hope they cut him with one year left, especially with new DC and LB coach.

Akeem Davis-Gaither – played decently down the stretch filling in for Wilson and is special teams stalwart. Played this year on one-year deal and I hope they bring him back.

CB

Cam Taylor-Britt – formerly ascending player had bad third year, being benched multiple times – I think the one-handed INT early in the year in KC really got into his head as his technique really suffered. Was once a likely extension candidate heading into final year of rookie deal next year, but can’t imagine they want to commit now and will make him play it out.

Dax Hill – former first-rounder and converted safety played the best ball of his career the first month before tearing his ACL Week 5. I don’t think they can pick up his fifth-year option based on that little a sample, but I would try to buy low on a cheaper deal with more years – if he can get over the injury, the ability is certainly there.

DJ Turner – second-year player started to come on before breaking his clavicle Week 11. He can play, but his frame will always put him at higher injury risk.

Josh Newton – rookie fifth-rounder held his own (albeit with some rookie fifth-rounder mistakes) as a starter the last month of the year and will be valuable reserve with some slot potential.

DJ Ivey – second-year player came back from ACL and put up some competitive reps as well as being a core special teams player.

S

Geno Stone – signed to fill deep safety role but was horrible for first three months in coverage and as a tackler. Salvaged his season a little picking off a bunch of bad QBs the last month, but needs to be much better going into last year of deal – I would cut him but they won’t. I suppose there’s some hope as he’s still only 25.

Jordan Battle – second-year player was supposed to break out in starting role, but they brought back Vonn Bell before the year and then Battle missed meetings while playing poorly when he got in the game. Played decently well late in the year after becoming starter again and hopefully can put a full offseason together and become a pro.

Vonn Bell – longtime veteran was brought back after a year in Carolina to fix the communication issues that plagued them in 2023. Not only did that not happen, but he was predictably finished and was a huge part of the defense’s struggles. I imagine this could be the end of the line at 30.

ST

Ryan Rehkow – CFA punter was their best at the position in years with huge leg and decent touch. Needs to work on his holding as that cost them at least one game and whole FG operation was awful.

Evan McPherson – newly-extended kicker had terrible year, missing numerous kicks he should’ve made and likely costing them games before groin injury landed him on IR the last month. He can certainly get back to what he was before, but it can also go south real fast for kickers and never come back. I’m not sure if they’ll bring in competition, but he’ll certainly be under a microscope next year.

The first orders of business should be to extend Chase, Higgins and Hendrickson and remove any distractions that may have plagued the locker room last year – they certainly played that way Week 1. They also need two new guards (hopefully seventh-rounder Matt Lee can be one), a DT that can push the pocket and another legitimate DE in addition to other various needs. Ultimately, their trajectory mostly hinges on the 22-24 draft classes who need to put together a big year. Hopefully, some new blood in the coaching staff can help them realize it because they just cannot waste seasons like this anymore.
I don't know a lot about the Bengals beyond the stars so this was a great read. Thank you for putting it together!
 

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You really think they need to sign Higgins long term? He's great but with Chase I would think they need to allocate those resources across the roster. If they can franchise him and get someone to bite on a good trade package, I think that's the better move. Hard for fans but better for the team.
I just don't see the value in signing Higgins to a market-rate contract, while also making Chase by-far the highest paid WR in the league. Having Chase and Higgins with Burrow is awesome--it also has the team at 9-8, missing out on the playoffs, with a lot of holes all over the roster that really need to be addressed.
If it was up to me, I'd franchise him again with the intent to trade him - you just cannot let him walk for nothing. That is what I was hoping to be the case for all this year until he fired his agent (who does not work well with the Bengals, as they failed for two years also to strike a deal for Jessie Bates) and hired Chase's. Then Burrow spoke publicly multiple times in the last month saying things such as "Tee is a need" and "you don't want to make a habit of letting good players leave." I really don't think they want to piss him off, given they've already been through their #1 pick QB telling them to piss up a rope and are entering rounds of stadium negotiations with the county. Is it the most prudent decision fiscally? Probably not. I think they're just hoping they can build a 2000s Colts roster (that will require better drafting, obviously) and get lucky a couple times.

Just wanted to say, this is an incredible rundown. If you do this for every team before the 2025 season, you could make a lot of money selling the breakdown info to fantasy players.
I don't know a lot about the Bengals beyond the stars so this was a great read. Thank you for putting it together!
Appreciate the feedback and compliments. Unfortunately, I only have time to devote hundreds of hours a year to have one team continually let me down and generally find national media Bengals takes to be ill-informed (as I'm sure many fans feel about their team) as they don't do enough research beyond the basics.
 
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Appreciate the feedback and compliments. Unfortunately, I only have time to devote hundreds of hours a year to have one team continually let me down and generally find national media Bengals takes to be ill-informed (as I'm sure many fans feel about their team) as they don't do enough research beyond the basics.
Research is for suckers. You want to make an impact, you need TAKEZ!
 

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Cordell Volson – third-year guard was headed into sink or swim season and, well, he sunk. You just cannot have a guard with this lack of athleticism (who can’t pick up a simple stunt either) in an offense with this many true pass sets, and the Bengals finally realized it as he was benched at the end of the year when their five best linemen were healthy. He shouldn’t even be part of a competition heading into his last year of rookie deal and should be relegated to a reserve role and maybe as an extra OL in jumbo sets.
Yes, Cam Heyward had a DPOY-level season. Yes, he's headed to the Hall of Fame. He's still not this good.

This guy played 87% of offensive snaps this year. He just cannot be a serious part of this team's plans next year.

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DaMarcus Covington is interviewing for the Bengals DC job just announced on 98.5.
 

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Well considering it sounds like the Bengals plan to sign both WRs, I assume that is not exactly the most attractive job.
Yeah, I don't think too many attractive jobs are considering Covington. I'm surprised he got a coordinator interview after this season, tbh. But it IS Cincinnati.
 

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To be fair, I don't think too many attractive jobs are considering Covington. I'm surprised he got a coordinator interview after this season, tbh. But it IS Cincinnati.
yeah I meant to respond in the other thread where somebody was saying it seemed like a downgrade for CIN. That job feels toxic.
 

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yeah I meant to respond in the other thread where somebody was saying it seemed like a downgrade for CIN. That job feels toxic.
I kinda realized that afterwards and edited accordingly basically agreeing with you.
1) it’s, like, Day 1 of interviews
2) they have to satisfy the Rooney Rule
3) conversely, you could be the guy who brings a bad defense to average (not particularly hard to do), be playing deep into January because of it and then parlay that into a head job
 

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The Bengals hired Scott Peters for their OL coach opening. Obviously the Pats OL was as bad as can be, but I'm wondering if he had any chance given what he had to work with and if there was any improvement as the year progressed. Peters came with a pretty good reputation to New England having worked with Bill Callahan, so all thoughts are welcome.
 

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It's amazing that Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson were all on the same team together in college. What a ridiculous amount of talent together.

But then just a few years later, that same school had Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas together at the same time. I wonder if this latter group will, when all is said and done, be regarded as better than the former group.
 

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It's amazing that Burrow, Chase, and Jefferson were all on the same team together in college. What a ridiculous amount of talent together.

But then just a few years later, that same school had Daniels, Nabers, and Thomas together at the same time. I wonder if this latter group will, when all is said and done, be regarded as better than the former group.
The Burrow/Chase/Jefferson team was the closest experience I've seen of watching the 2007 Patriots, except they finished the job. They just came in and pounded EVERYBODY. It's not surprising when you look at the talent and what they went on to do in the NFL. It's kind of funny because LSU, while being a NFL factory for a few decades, always had the reputation as a defensive school that churned out really good DBs, but the offense, especially the QB play, was suspect.
 

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The Bengals hired Scott Peters for their OL coach opening. Obviously the Pats OL was as bad as can be, but I'm wondering if he had any chance given what he had to work with and if there was any improvement as the year progressed. Peters came with a pretty good reputation to New England having worked with Bill Callahan, so all thoughts are welcome.
There was some minimal improvement as the year went on, I guess. But to your point it's hard to assess given the talent level and injuries.
 

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There was some minimal improvement as the year went on, I guess. But to your point it's hard to assess given the talent level and injuries.
Plus Brissett was a sitting duck (well, against everyone except the Bengals), although you certainly wish the run game could have been better. I'm hoping the reputation that preceded him will carry the day.