2024-25 Yankees Offseason

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"Judge and Goldschmidt first met during the lockout. Then they crossed paths last season at the All-Star Game and again when the Yankees came to St. Louis for a series with the Cardinals. “I know he loves baseball,” Judge said. “Loves his craft.” The two texted throughout the remainder of the season, though Goldschmidt’s communications began taking on a more specific purpose. “I felt like I was reaching out to him, trying to get together and just hit,” he said, “spend a day together.” That’s how, for a few hours on a winter day, two of the best hitters on the planet went to work."

"Judge hopes to improve his situational hitting overall, part of the reason he’s been focused on his two-strike approach. He’s studied how Philadelphia’s Bryce Harper and San Diego’s Juan Soto treat those situations. He’s also looked to the past. “I loved watching Albert Pujols back in the day when he would just kind of pick up his toe and kind of went after it,” he said. “It’s so simple. It’s easy and he keeps the power. I think that was one thing that ties it in.”

In Goldschmidt, Judge found a perfect tutor. Unlike Harper and Soto, Goldschmidt’s power is from the right side, just like Judge. But unlike Judge, who uses a high leg kick, Goldschmidt uses his simple no-stride approach in every count. Clearly, it has worked, and it hasn’t cost him any power. In his 12 big league seasons, Goldschmidt has reached the 30-homer mark seven times, including last season when he finished with 35.

“Getting a chance to talk with Goldy, he’s a bigger right-handed hitter that still hits for power without a leg kick,” Judge said. “That always enticed me a little bit. … Some guys make adjustments with the no-stride and they kind of lose their power and kind of fight it off. I don’t want to be that type of guy. I want to still have a little bit of power, a little bit of juice and keep that going.”

Judge didn’t waste time with his newfound knowledge. Shortly after his hitting session with Goldschmidt, Judge reached out to Schenck. He wanted to get some cage work in to specifically focus on ditching his stride with two strikes. Within days, Judge was with Schenck, practicing the tips he picked up from his time with Goldschmidt."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4301377/2023/03/14/aaron-judge-paul-goldschmidt-mvp/
 

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Judge hoping for veteran peers wouldn't surprise me. I don't think the captaincy weighs heavy on him or anything, but I do think he's learned things from and appreciates playing with vets who have had some success in their careers. Rizzo was a guy like that.
 

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Things are quiet but it really feels like Judge is pushing for a Superfriends of 2022 behind the scenes. As a former journalist, I apologize for this level of reporting but this is the world we live in.

View: https://twitter.com/theyankscenter/status/1870746580338561490


2022 MLB bWAR positional player leaders:

Judge 10.5
Arenado 7.7
Goldschmidt 7.7

https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/majors/2022-standard-batting.shtml

I think that or Gleyber on a one year deal but I am guessing Fried especially would prefer the ten time Gold Glove (in 12 seasons so far) 3B and let Jazz move his athleticism to 2B.

Arenado has evidently been working hard at Driveline this winter and has his swing speed back up to where it was before. I will look for the link later.
Not to be a wet blanket, and I don't know how accurate this is, but saw this earlier today.

View: https://twitter.com/YankeeWRLD/status/1870945770318500093
 

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Not to be a wet blanket, and I don't know how accurate this is, but saw this earlier today.

View: https://twitter.com/YankeeWRLD/status/1870945770318500093
I'm enjoying letting you guys and your reasoned optimism into my head, helping me push past my reservations about following up a 37 year old Goldie signing by giving up assets to acquire a 34 year old Nolan Arenado on a 3/$52M contract coming off a 102 wRC+ season, but this post did NOT help.
 

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Only half the games are at home and 3B defense plays everywhere. In actual Yankee Stadium last year, he was 4-13 with a HR and a walk in their 3 game series at the end of August, .896 OPS.

Also it might be less than 3/52, the deal they agreed to with HOU that Arenado vetoed was him at 3/45. Unfortunately for trying to gauge this, I don’t think it leaked who it was for.
 

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What has me excited is those 2022 bWAR numbers of Goldschmidt/Arenado, 15.4 between them. If they could bounce back to produce even half of that between them, it’s a win.

Also bringing in all of Bellinger, Goldschmidt and Arenado at the same time would take a lot of pressure off all of them, no one guy needs to be asked all the time about trying to replace Soto.
 

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"Judge and Goldschmidt first met during the lockout. Then they crossed paths last season at the All-Star Game and again when the Yankees came to St. Louis for a series with the Cardinals. “I know he loves baseball,” Judge said. “Loves his craft.” The two texted throughout the remainder of the season, though Goldschmidt’s communications began taking on a more specific purpose. “I felt like I was reaching out to him, trying to get together and just hit,” he said, “spend a day together.” That’s how, for a few hours on a winter day, two of the best hitters on the planet went to work."

"Judge hopes to improve his situational hitting overall, part of the reason he’s been focused on his two-strike approach. He’s studied how Philadelphia’s Bryce Harper and San Diego’s Juan Soto treat those situations. He’s also looked to the past. “I loved watching Albert Pujols back in the day when he would just kind of pick up his toe and kind of went after it,” he said. “It’s so simple. It’s easy and he keeps the power. I think that was one thing that ties it in.”

In Goldschmidt, Judge found a perfect tutor. Unlike Harper and Soto, Goldschmidt’s power is from the right side, just like Judge. But unlike Judge, who uses a high leg kick, Goldschmidt uses his simple no-stride approach in every count. Clearly, it has worked, and it hasn’t cost him any power. In his 12 big league seasons, Goldschmidt has reached the 30-homer mark seven times, including last season when he finished with 35.

“Getting a chance to talk with Goldy, he’s a bigger right-handed hitter that still hits for power without a leg kick,” Judge said. “That always enticed me a little bit. … Some guys make adjustments with the no-stride and they kind of lose their power and kind of fight it off. I don’t want to be that type of guy. I want to still have a little bit of power, a little bit of juice and keep that going.”

Judge didn’t waste time with his newfound knowledge. Shortly after his hitting session with Goldschmidt, Judge reached out to Schenck. He wanted to get some cage work in to specifically focus on ditching his stride with two strikes. Within days, Judge was with Schenck, practicing the tips he picked up from his time with Goldschmidt."

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/4301377/2023/03/14/aaron-judge-paul-goldschmidt-mvp/
I hate how much every story I read about Aaron Judge makes me want to like him. I also hate that I am letting it happen.
 

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Ken Rosenthal is reporting that Santana turned down more money from SEA to go back to CLE, doesn’t sound like NY had a real shot there.
 

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Ken Rosenthal is reporting that Santana turned down more money from SEA to go back to CLE, doesn’t sound like NY had a real shot there.
I know that Santana put up 3 fWAR last year, but if we're betting on the future, I'd rather take the chance on Goldie's age 37 season than Carlos' age 39 one. Especially since Santana had put up a combined 1.6 fWAR in the three seasons prior to last year.
 

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I know that Santana put up 3 fWAR last year, but if we're betting on the future, I'd rather take the chance on Goldie's age 37 season than Carlos' age 39 one. Especially since Santana had put up a combined 1.6 fWAR in the three seasons prior to last year.
Also Santana is a switch-hitter, which is (was) tempting, but he was pretty bad against RHP last year, .676 OPS and a .934 vs lefties.
 

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3B still up in the air, and Cole was on the IL to start last season, but outside of the massive loss of Soto, this roster looks decidedly better than last April IMO.

 

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If a trade for Arenado works out, I'm happy enough. I think the collective moves including Arenado, plus a full season of Chisholm, would raise the floor on this team quite a bit. Especially defensively. I'm not sure how much offensive upside there would be, but I can see some from Volpe, Wells and Dominguez as they get more experience. And maybe some from Bellinger based mostly on park fit. With a stronger rotation and bullpen and some health luck, I'd feel really good about that team.

If a trade for Arenado doesn't happen, I think I'd like to see the Yankees roll with what they've got at third, which still includes moving Jazz to 2B.

Cabrera is really good at 3B with +7 DRS in 566 innings. For reference, Arenado has been trending down but was still +6 in 1268 innings. Cabrera can more than hold his own at 3B and maybe even improve if he's not bouncing all over the field and playing everywhere. Offensively he's obviously a work in progress, but he's not bad against RHP and showed flashes of competence when he batted lefty against LHP. I think he can improve and might be better offensively over Arenado over the next three years. His bat plays better in Yankee Stadium. It's also easier to platoon Cabrera more than a vet like Arenado. Peraza hits LHP and while his 3B DRS in limited innings is neutral at 0, his defensive pedigree is strong. I think finding him as many ABs as possible should be an important goal for this season. If a bunch of them are at 3B, cool. He can still get a few at SS and 2B when Volpe and Chisholm need some rest.

Given all that a try for a season and if necessary make a move for a better 3B after a year. Or even at the trade deadline if it obviously isn't working.

I don't think the organization would do it. Doubt they'd even consider moving Chisholm back to 2B without a "name" like Arenado coming on board. But I'd still like to see it if Arenado doesn't work out.
 
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“The Yankees never offered Stroman in a conversation with the Cardinals about Arenado. Doesn’t mean they won’t trade Stroman, but it’s inaccurate he was in a Cardinals conversation about Arenado.”

More Jack Curry.
 

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This news makes me happy, though much like his Gil tidbit, Curry's believability in this situation is certainly up for debate. Thanks for aggregating this here, jon.
 

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Sure! December is very high on my list of favorite months of the baseball calendar, and this has been a wild one for NY, I think not done yet.

OK, so no Arenado, no Gleyber, fine with those decisions.

Now I would like to trade for Luis Rengifo's final season (he can play both 2B and 3B, so he and Jazz can switch if needed) and sign Tanner Scott or Carlos Estevez, please. I am guessing the current priority is moving Stroman though.
 

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If you want to spread misinformation, leading with truth before you get into the nonsense is a good way to go. I think there is zero chance the Yankees are confident about Sasaki. Pretty cool if it is true. But no way.
 
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Not sure where else to put this, but was really cool to watch. 1975 old timers day. Billy takes over as manager, Dimaggios last old timers game he played in, he got a hit and made a nice catch. tons of legends. Rizzutto tries to steal 2nd a few times. Billy made some nice plays in the field.

View: https://youtu.be/tqkS5KhL6io?feature=shared
 

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NY with what looks like a very interesting minor league signing in OF Brennen Davis, who was the #15 overall prospect in MLB on mlb.com's 2022 list, just behind Marcelo Mayer and ahead of Triston Casas and Jack Leiter. He has had trouble staying healthy but is still just 25 and has been described as having 30/30 potential in CF (!!!!). I need to research him more.

https://www.mlb.com/milb/prospects/2022/top100/
 

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"Davis, 25, was once one of the top prospects in baseball. A second-round pick of the Cubs in 2018, he tore through the minors and Baseball America ranked him the #16 prospect in the league going into 2022. He had slashed .260/.375/.494 across High-A, Double-A and Triple-A in 2021 for a 140 wRC+ and seemed to be on the cusp of an exciting debut.

Unfortunately, his stock has fallen since then and he still hasn’t cracked the majors. He required back surgery in the middle of 2022, which was followed by core surgery in 2023 and then a fractured ankle in 2024. Through those ailments, he has only played 179 games over the past three years, slashing a paltry .200/.319/.345 while on the field."

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/11/cubs-designate-brennen-davis-adbert-alzolay-for-assignment.html
 

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I like gambles that risk almost nothing. Given how much he pulls the ball, it's too bad he's not left handed.

Still, nice lottery ticket.
 

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He was the 2021 Futures Game MVP with two home runs, a game that also featured Julio Rodriguez and Bobby Witt Jr.
 

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He just can't stay healthy, just 1344 PAs in six minor league seasons, and CHC had a 40 man squeeze so they had to drop him. NY does not have much OF depth currently behind the top 4-5, more of an opportunity for him than in CHC currently (where Suzuki has already been pushed to fulltime DH) and also the fan base is frustrated with all his injuries (presumably not nearly as much as him).

Davis is a bit like an even less healthy (and at least a notch less talented) Royce Lewis, Lewis started playing pro ball two years earlier and has just 2283 PAs over 8 years, minors/majors combined.

@Snatch Catch , what if Cashman just got us our own cut-rate Royce Lewis on a minor league deal? :)

To anyone who read that and said to themselves 'stop being ridiculous Jon' I am of course well aware it is more likely Davis will be much closer to Oscar Gonzalez, who I was similarly excited about NY stashing in AAA last winter and who never got an AB with NY before leaving after last season.

But much like Cashman, I am also a sucker for failed top 100 pedigree toolsy guys who are still 25-26, so. yay Davis.
 

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He just can't stay healthy, just 1344 PAs in six minor league seasons, and CHC had a 40 man squeeze so they had to drop him. NY does not have much OF depth currently behind the top 4-5, more of an opportunity for him than in CHC currently (where Suzuki has already been pushed to fulltime DH) and also the fan base is frustrated with all his injuries (presumably not nearly as much as him).

Davis is a bit like an even less healthy (and at least a notch less talented) Royce Lewis, Lewis started playing pro ball two years earlier and has just 2283 PAs over 8 years, minors/majors combined.

@Snatch Catch , what if Cashman just got us our own cut-rate Royce Lewis on a minor league deal? :)

To anyone who read that and said to themselves 'stop being ridiculous Jon' I am of course well aware it is more likely Davis will be much closer to Oscar Gonzalez, who I was similarly excited about NY stashing in AAA last winter and who never got an AB with NY before leaving after last season.

But much like Cashman, I am also a sucker for failed top 100 pedigree toolsy guys who are still 25-26, so. yay Davis.
My favorite types of moves - menial effort/ risk, high reward. It's a similar vibe to an NBA scenario for me: buying 2nd rounders for cash that doesn't count against anything meaningful, and using them on eurostash picks that have been passed over for valid reasons. It should be done every year as much as possible. Hurts nothing, probably amounts to nothing, but offers non-zero odds at a lightning strike. Why not take the chance?
 

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“Gleyber Torres declined an opportunity to play for the Washington Nationals due to them wanting to put him at 3B, per Jon Heyman.”
 

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NY with what looks like an uninteresting minor league signing in 5’7” OF Ismael Munguia today, 26 and has not played much above AA.

Then you notice what he did in spring training 2024 for SF and he gets a little more intriguing:

“In 18 Cactus League games, Munguia is slashing .438/.486/.719 with 14 runs scored, two home runs, eight RBIs and five stolen bases.”

https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/ismael-munguia-earns-giants-barney-nugent-award.html
 

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Heh. Kind of sounds a like an OF lesser version of Durbin. Little man with some wheels, flashes of potential with the bat.
 

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Gotta say, I'd rather have Gleyber at 1/$15 than Bregman or Arenado. Yankees still have a lot of holes to fill and I'm unclear on how they will fill them.
 

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Gleyber ending up with a one year deal for $15M is a strong supporting argument for those that said they simply did not want him back with the Yankees.

He waited for something even halfway decent to come, and it simply wasn't going to happen. For a guy who's shown undeniable hitting talent and production, the ability to perform in the playoffs, and just turned 28, that seems to be a pretty strong indicator of just how detrimental his flaws are.

And to think what he might have returned on the trade market a few years ago. I'm not sure I can think of a similar situation where a player's production had not cratered, there was no major injury, no significant off field incidents, and was at the beginning of his prime (not to mention was coming off a postseason where he got hot and hit leadoff for a World Series team), and nobody was willing to give him a contract.
 
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Good luck to Gleyber. Can hit a little and seems like a great clubhouse guy. Shame he isn't very good at playing 2B and doean't want to move. But maybe he can't play 3B either.
 

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Gleyber ending up with a one year deal for $15M is a strong supporting argument for those that said they simply did not want him back with the Yankees.

He waited for something even halfway decent to come, and it simply wasn't going to happen. For a guy who's shown undeniable hitting talent and production, the ability to perform in the playoffs, and just turned 28, that seems to be a pretty strong indicator of just how detrimental his flaws are.

And to think what he might have returned on the trade market a few years ago. I'm not sure I can think of a similar situation where a player's production had not cratered, there was no major injury, no significant off field incidents, and was at the beginning of his prime (not to mention was coming off a postseason where he got hot and hit leadoff for a World Series team), and nobody was willing to give him a contract.
Yeah, he was listed as a top 10 trade value in all of baseball at one point. I was very early in wanting to move him, but Cashman never did/was able to.
 

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Gotta say, I'd rather have Gleyber at 1/$15 than Bregman or Arenado. Yankees still have a lot of holes to fill and I'm unclear on how they will fill them.
They definitely don’t have a lot of holes, they have one on the infield and maybe one in the bullpen with no lefties (although again, recent Astros teams won a lot of playoff series with no lefty relievers).

Anyway, they’re not done but also I think it’s hard to argue they’re not AL favorites on paper currently.
 

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The rotation/bullpen (needs a lefty) is really good. That lineup is the question mark, though - dependant both on a big bounceback from Goldy, something resembling a healthy regular season from Stanton, and serious progression from several of the younger players (Jasson, Volpe, Wells, possibly Rice).
 

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NY was the worst baserunning team in MLB last year and it’s easy to see addressing this is a priority by who’s gone from this list. Gleyber was worse than Stanton!IMG_5737.jpeg
 

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Kinda wild given that his sprint speed was about 2ft/s faster than Stanton and Rizzo.
 

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His decision making is just inexplicably bad, so frequently. I would actually argue that he is even a worse baserunner than his numbers, but his decision making is so nonsensical that occasionally it confuses the defense and he ends up safe.
 

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His decision making is just inexplicably bad, so frequently. I would actually argue that he is even a worse baserunner than his numbers, but his decision making is so nonsensical that occasionally it confuses the defense and he ends up safe.
I think it's pretty amazing they made it to to World Series when they were both the worst baserunning team and also dreadful at defending against aggressive baserunning (as mentioned in multiple fallout pieces from the series on the Dodgers strategy).

What was it that made up for this shortcoming, in you guys' opinion? Had to be the bullpen + the Judge/Soto combo, doesn't it?
 

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I think it's pretty amazing they made it to to World Series when they were both the worst baserunning team and also dreadful at defending against aggressive baserunning (as mentioned in multiple fallout pieces from the series on the Dodgers strategy).

What was it that made up for this shortcoming, in you guys' opinion? Had to be the bullpen + the Judge/Soto combo, doesn't it?
The AL was pretty terrible, I would have taken any of the final four NL teams against any of the final four AL teams in a series.

Also NY piled up wins early but were just 44-46 after mid-June, then they got to play two AL Central teams in the postseason instead of HOU or any AL East teams.
 

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Burnes to ARI means even more talent funneling out of the AL, indirectly strengthening any Yankees chances.
 

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Also NY piled up wins early but were just 44-46 after mid-June, then they got to play two AL Central teams in the postseason instead of HOU or any AL East teams.
Getting in all those Houston games at the beginning of the season when they started terribly was totally unfair.
 

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Earlier in December Feinsand mentioned Jace Jung as a potential trade candidate with the emergence of Colt Keith. Now with them signing Gleyber and sliding Keith to 1st, Jung's only avenue is a potential 3B platoon.

Would he interest you, and if so, what would you move to acquire him that would satisfy DET? I'd expect it to cost Schmidt+.

The only thing that gives me pause is a potentially high K rate, but almost everything else is enticing - heavy pull lefty with lots of loft in Yankee Stadium and a great walk rate.

EDIT: In my scenario I keep Jazz at 3B and play Jung at 2B.
 
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