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Okay, maybe they'll end up a few games off that — I like HRB's revised O/U of 50. But the vibes definitely seem good in Warriorland post Klay-departure, between:
  • Steph's heroics in Paris.
  • Both Steph ad Dray looking fit and spry.
  • Warriors crushing both the preseason (6-0) and Summer League (7-1), with all four of the young'uns they hoped would take leaps — Kuminga, Moody, Podziemski, Jackson-Davis — looking to have done so. (Among other developments, JK, Moody, and Podz are all looking much more confident shooting the 3).
  • All three of Mike Dunleavy's bargain pickups in free agency — Melton, Hield, Kyle Anderson — kicking ass and looking like perfect fits in Kerrball. Make it four guys if you count Lindy Waters III, a 6'-6" legit sharpshooter who they basically took off OKC's hands for nothing (evidence of how freaking deep OKC is)
  • Looney looking svelte and surpisingly athletic, like the guy who used to lock down Harden in the late 2010s.
  • Stotts and Stackhouse bringing experience and fresh ideas to the coaching staff.
  • Moody crushing preseason, then being locked down to a super-team friendly 3/$39M extension. They couldn't come to tems with Kuminga, alas, but maybe that makes him hungrier.
The biggest challenge for Kerr to start the season — beyond lacking size and a second superstar — looks like it may be too many mouths to feed. With Payton and Wiggs both looking spry and fit as well, the team now runs 13 deep in legit rotation players. Barring injury, a couple of guys who deserve to play are going to find themselves out of the rotation some nights. But file that under "good problem to have," especially with Steph and Dray not getting any younger.

As a corollary of the "too many good players and only one great one" issue, the opening night starting lineup is still an open question. We can assume Steph and almost certainly Dray; and Anthony Slater just reported that despite their not being able to reach an extension agreement with JK, he's been tabbed to start on opening night. The other two are anyone's guess, though if preseason is any indication, possibly Wiggins and Jackson-Davis? TJD is slightly undersized at C, so going big with Wiggs-Kuminga at the 2-3 offsets that. On the other hand, you could argue Melton and Podz looked their two best players in preseason. Again: good problem to have.

Overall, they should be fast-paced, aggressive on D, and fun to watch, which is all I really want for Christmas with this team.
 
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I liked their offseason generally (both the players they added and ditching Klay) but holding onto Kuminga and not extending him is a poor choice IMO. In a vacuum I don't like to give max contracts or max extensions to players that aren't close to all-star level, but if Kuminga wasn't going to accept anything less than that, I think GS should've moved him as part of a deal for someone like George or Markkanen when they had the chance. Having one of your key players enter a season without an extension (especially one who has complained about his role in the recent past) just seems like a recipe for trouble, especially when at this point it should be about maximizing the end of the Steph era.
 

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I liked their offseason generally (both the players they added and ditching Klay) but holding onto Kuminga and not extending him is a poor choice IMO. In a vacuum I don't like to give max contracts or max extensions to players that aren't close to all-star level, but if Kuminga wasn't going to accept anything less than that, I think GS should've moved him as part of a deal for someone like George or Markkanen when they had the chance. Having one of your key players enter a season without an extension (especially one who has complained about his role in the recent past) just seems like a recipe for trouble, especially when at this point it should be about maximizing the end of the Steph era.
I think that is overstated unless it's an entire team full of guys playing for themselves.....like the Celtics during Rozier's final year here. I file it under one of my old college coaches favorite phrase that legendary Port Cellar contributor Rocco also used, "You can have one donkey in the locker room but you can't have two because then they breed."

Last year we saw a bunch of guys not signed to their rookie extension....Tyrone Maxey, Quickley, Toppin and they took leaps.
 

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I think that is overstated unless it's an entire team full of guys playing for themselves.....like the Celtics during Rozier's final year here. I file it under one of my old college coaches favorite phrase that legendary Port Cellar contributor Rocco also used, "You can have one donkey in the locker room but you can't have two because then they breed."

Last year we saw a bunch of guys not signed to their rookie extension....Tyrone Maxey, Quickley, Toppin and they took leaps.
If Kuminga hadn't made spoken out about playing time earlier this year, I wouldn't have mentioned it. Unless I missed something none of the guys you mentioned have ever said anything about their own roles, plus it was reported in August that Kuminga was looking for a max (obviously a lot of these guys are, but to see it be reported publicly is again unusual). We all know what Kuminga wants, and that he's not shy about speaking out if he's at all unhappy. That could be problematic.

And I am also a firm believer in the one donkey locker room being absolutely fine, but the Warriors already have one of the biggest donkeys in the league in Draymond Green. No room for another.
 

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I think Kuminga is likely their big trade chip though. If he signed the extension then they would have been extremely limited for an in-season move
 

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If Kuminga hadn't made spoken out about playing time earlier this year, I wouldn't have mentioned it. Unless I missed something none of the guys you mentioned have ever said anything about their own roles, plus it was reported in August that Kuminga was looking for a max (obviously a lot of these guys are, but to see it be reported publicly is again unusual). We all know what Kuminga wants, and that he's not shy about speaking out if he's at all unhappy. That could be problematic.

And I am also a firm believer in the one donkey locker room being absolutely fine, but the Warriors already have one of the biggest donkeys in the league in Draymond Green. No room for another.
Wait hold on here. I know there is what people "Want" to believe and then there is the reality. There have been countless stories over the years about Draymond's teammates loving him and calling him the best teammate they have ever had, super caring of the young guys in taking them clothes shopping, etc etc. Some ex-teammates have come out and say how bad a rap Draymond has gotten from the public and this is an ex-teammate who would have no reason not to speak the truth about him. Chris Paul called him one of his favorite teammates just last year. He's certainly passionate about winning and by "donkey" that is referenced as a guy who doesn't care about what the team is all about and that they are all about themselves......which isn't Draymond at all.
 

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Wait hold on here. I know there is what people "Want" to believe and then there is the reality. There have been countless stories over the years about Draymond's teammates loving him and calling him the best teammate they have ever had, super caring of the young guys in taking them clothes shopping, etc etc. Some ex-teammates have come out and say how bad a rap Draymond has gotten from the public and this is an ex-teammate who would have no reason not to speak the truth about him. Chris Paul called him one of his favorite teammates just last year. He's certainly passionate about winning and by "donkey" that is referenced as a guy who doesn't care about what the team is all about and that they are all about themselves......which isn't Draymond at all.
He also missed 20+ games due to suspension last year (when his team absolutely needed him), he's missed multiple playoff games due to suspension, and we've had players talk about how him punching a teammate totally took the wind out of the sails of their title defense. He lost his shit on Durant, which expedited the latter's departure. Less than a year ago it seemed like he legitimately was so out of control that he wouldn't be able to play anymore without hurting the opposing team. Plenty of people like the guy, but we all have eyes and ears so we can see how he acts on the court - if he's not a donkey in the NBA sense, then the term has no meaning at all.
 

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He also missed 20+ games due to suspension last year (when his team absolutely needed him), he's missed multiple playoff games due to suspension, and we've had players talk about how him punching a teammate totally took the wind out of the sails of their title defense. He lost his shit on Durant, which expedited the latter's departure. Less than a year ago it seemed like he legitimately was so out of control that he wouldn't be able to play anymore without hurting the opposing team. Plenty of people like the guy, but we all have eyes and ears so we can see how he acts on the court - if he's not a donkey in the NBA sense, then the term has no meaning at all.
This isn’t about liking or not liking Draymond. None of this has any relevance to what a locker room donkey is or does to create a negative culture in that sense.
 

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This isn’t about liking or not liking Draymond. None of this has any relevance to what a locker room donkey is or does to create a negative culture in that sense.
It's not a negative to team culture to sucker punch guys during practice, or yell at them like a crazy person until they leave, or act so erratically on the court that you lose 25% of the season to suspensions?
 

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It's not a negative to team culture to sucker punch guys during practice, or yell at them like a crazy person until they leave, or act so erratically on the court that you lose 25% of the season to suspensions?
Why are they keeping him around if he is so toxic? We all see the clips and the outrage that follows. Yet Draymond seems pretty secure in his role.

Maybe the team sees him differently than fans and specifically fans of opposing teams?
 

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Why are they keeping him around if he is so toxic? We all see the clips and the outrage that follows. Yet Draymond seems pretty secure in his role.

Maybe the team sees him differently than fans and specifically fans of opposing teams?
Because having 1 donkey doesn't necessarily kill you, and because the Warriors and Kerr are comfortable enabling him to the end of the earth (or the end of Curry's career, whichever comes first).

I didn't think this would be controversial. Obviously the Warriors view him differently than fans of opposing teams, but to act like the only problem is fans hating him is ridiculous. He was suspended for a quarter of the season last year! He's been suspended for multiple playoff games! We had multiple players wonder out loud just in the past year (Nurkic, Durant) just exactly WTF was wrong with him! We all know what it looks like when someone is barely in control of their body, and as Draymond has aged he seems less and less in control of his limbs and his temper. We had a whole thread on this last year, I don't really feel like regurgitating the whole thing (especially when my initial point was that I don't know if I trust Kuminga to stay quiet if he doesn't like his role, not specifically about Draymond at all):

https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/everybody-hates-draymond.41301/

Bottom line if you don't think any of his antics over the last couple of years (punching Poole in practice, stomping on Sabonis, punching Nurkic, missing 20+ games to suspension in a razor tight WC, etc etc) have impacted the team, I don't know what else to say. Clearly the Warriors have made their peace with it, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to agree that everything is copacetic.
 

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It's not a negative to team culture to sucker punch guys during practice, or yell at them like a crazy person until they leave, or act so erratically on the court that you lose 25% of the season to suspensions?
It depends….many on the team probably wanted to punch Jordan Poole in the face anyway. Again, his antics isn’t really aligned with what a locker room donkey is in that sense. Green is a notorious competitor to a fault, which led to the Poole issue, while a donkey is the polar opposite of that attitude.
 

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Because having 1 donkey doesn't necessarily kill you, and because the Warriors and Kerr are comfortable enabling him to the end of the earth (or the end of Curry's career, whichever comes first).

I didn't think this would be controversial. Obviously the Warriors view him differently than fans of opposing teams, but to act like the only problem is fans hating him is ridiculous. He was suspended for a quarter of the season last year! He's been suspended for multiple playoff games! We had multiple players wonder out loud just in the past year (Nurkic, Durant) just exactly WTF was wrong with him! We all know what it looks like when someone is barely in control of their body, and as Draymond has aged he seems less and less in control of his limbs and his temper. We had a whole thread on this last year, I don't really feel like regurgitating the whole thing (especially when my initial point was that I don't know if I trust Kuminga to stay quiet if he doesn't like his role, not specifically about Draymond at all):

https://sonsofsamhorn.net/index.php?threads/everybody-hates-draymond.41301/

Bottom line if you don't think any of his antics over the last couple of years (punching Poole in practice, stomping on Sabonis, punching Nurkic, missing 20+ games to suspension in a razor tight WC, etc etc) have impacted the team, I don't know what else to say. Clearly the Warriors have made their peace with it, but that doesn't mean everyone else has to agree that everything is copacetic.
To be clear I am not defending Draymond or condoning any of his actions. But my sense is that while the Warriors don't love all of his antics, they accept them because of what he means for the franchise. To be clear they probably do condone some of his tactics because... winning.

That doesn't preclude Green from pushing it too far at some point. We may be one flagrant two away from him being traded but my sense is that the club (and most importantly Steph) values his contributions even with the extracurriculars.
 

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It depends….many on the team probably wanted to punch Jordan Poole in the face anyway. Again, his antics isn’t really aligned with what a locker room donkey is in that sense. Green is a notorious competitor to a fault, which led to the Poole issue, while a donkey is the polar opposite of that attitude.
I thought that punch to Poole had some $$$ innuendo to it???

Poole got his BAG, Dray hadn't and then the Steph backpack comment...KABOOM

I could see Kuminga complaining & Dray telling the kid to STFU. So Green may not be a "donkey", but it could be a highly combustible situation.
 

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I thought that punch to Poole had some $$$ innuendo to it???

Poole got his BAG, Dray hadn't and then the Steph backpack comment...KABOOM

I could see Kuminga complaining & Dray telling the kid to STFU. So Green may not be a "donkey", but it could be a highly combustible situation.
I forgot who it was, one of his ex-teammates, who said he knew that this incident made sense bc Draymond doesn’t like anyone who isn’t competitive and giving it all to win. Kuminga competes and is tough I don’t compare him at all to a Poole who only wanted a payday and then to chill.
 

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I forgot who it was, one of his ex-teammates, who said he knew that this incident made sense bc Draymond doesn’t like anyone who isn’t competitive and giving it all to win. Kuminga competes and is tough I don’t compare him at all to a Poole who only wanted a payday and then to chill.
The Poole contract has to be one of the 10 worst in the NBA. I always scratch my head when people see him having a big bounce-back year. He is the poster child of hollow-pointz scorer. Turned one decent season into $140M :oops:

The Wizards got themselves a younger, yet worse version of Bradley Beal.
 

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Golden State has a lot of NBA players on the roster, and frankly has for a few years. It's the top end that has me worried. I don't think Curry looked all that good at the Olympics. The defense has really regressed. Draymond is starting to leak oil and you see it in the rebounding percentages. I think the suspensions may have masked even more regression since he got that extra time off for his body to recover. I like them more as a regular season team (because of the depth) than as a playoff team.

50 wins wouldn't surprise me (depth), but getting out of the second round would. If Curry goes down for any length of time, they are totally porked. They have no real shot creation outside that guy, aside from maybe Wiggins. Though word I've heard is that Wiggins hasn't done the work he needed to do to keep his body in the kind of shape it needs to be in to maintain athleticism into his late 20s/early 30s.
 

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Golden State has a lot of NBA players on the roster, and frankly has for a few years. It's the top end that has me worried. I don't think Curry looked all that good at the Olympics. The defense has really regressed. Draymond is starting to leak oil and you see it in the rebounding percentages. I think the suspensions may have masked even more regression since he got that extra time off for his body to recover. I like them more as a regular season team (because of the depth) than as a playoff team.

50 wins wouldn't surprise me (depth), but getting out of the second round would. If Curry goes down for any length of time, they are totally porked. They have no real shot creation outside that guy, aside from maybe Wiggins. Though word I've heard is that Wiggins hasn't done the work he needed to do to keep his body in the kind of shape it needs to be in to maintain athleticism into his late 20s/early 30s.
I agree with all of this. Depth was specifically mentioned in my preview iirc as a regular season catalyst to the 50.
 

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I didn’t realize that locker room donkey was a term of art with a specific meaning.
Don't get that either. It isn't about liking/disliking Draymond. He's clearly a terrific player. But he's done all the non-basketball things mentioned (some off court some on court, per suspensions) that have been hugely detrimental. I think that's the point rather than semantics over "donkey."

That said, I share the sense that the Warriors will be a very good, balanced team this season that will also be a pretty easy out in the playoffs.
 

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The Warriors were flying last night against the hapless Trailblazers, who were already slacking on getting back on defense.

Buddy Hield was never played for a particularly good team, and he has some inconsistencies in his game that seem to wear thin wherever he goes--but he has some nights where he can just really, really shoot the ball.
 

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The Warriors were flying last night against the hapless Trailblazers, who were already slacking on getting back on defense.

Buddy Hield was never played for a particularly good team, and he has some inconsistencies in his game that seem to wear thin wherever he goes--but he has some nights where he can just really, really shoot the ball.
Yeah, especially given what they have with their other wing players now (almost all plus defenders, and/or bigger and more athletic) I think Buddy might legitimately be a better fit at this point than Klay would have been going forward.

Hield was pretty good for Indiana, they just couldn't hide his shaky D, playing him with at least one of Hali, McConnell, Mathurin, etc. at all times compounded those issues and made the overall group untenable, and those other guys are all more important (and/or cheaper) and they needed the wing minutes to go to better defenders.
 

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The Warriors were flying last night against the hapless Trailblazers, who were already slacking on getting back on defense.

Buddy Hield was never played for a particularly good team, and he has some inconsistencies in his game that seem to wear thin wherever he goes--but he has some nights where he can just really, really shoot the ball.
Hield is who people think Sam Hauser is. He's an A+ shooter and a D- or worse everywhere else, other than availability (84 games played last year, he's missed maybe 5 games total in his career). He cannot start for a good team, but if he's giving them 15-20 minutes off the bench that will be fine.

He also had two really nice pieces of trivia until last year: He had the 2nd most minutes all-time without making the playoffs, and he led the 2016 draft class in total points (6 all-stars in that class, plus Jamal Murray). Now, nothing.
 

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Top 5 teams in net rating

5. OKC +15.0
4. ORL +17.5
3. CLE +21.0
2. BOS +22.4
1. GSW +36.4 :cool:

What’s that they say about small sample results being meaningful in extreme cases? Well, I hope it’s true. Best two-game start in NBA history is … something?

Mediocre/bad opponent alert, but through two, this team is almost unrecognizable to me from the couple seasons, in which every game seemed like a complete slog, no matter how lowly the opponent. Kerr has been preaching defense, pace, and launching hella threes since the start of camp; it’s crazy to me how perfectly the team, with its bizarre 13-man rotation, has followed that playbook. On 10/17, Kerr spoke about an incredible practice, which he rarely does. Since then we’ve seen:

132-74 v LAL in preseason (JV team, but still)
140-104 v POR (was initially 139-104; Ws lit it up so bad the scorekeepers realized the next day they had shorted them a point)
127-86 v UTA

Those are like NBA team v. New Zealand Breakers numbers. Also crazy is that the guys you might expect to be responsible have been mostly meh. Steph’s looked good physically and passed the ball well (9.7 ast per 36) but mostly bricked his shots and played 26 mpg. Dray still shoots with a backpack and gets teed up for yapping. Kuminga has literally looked like the worst player on the team, behind Gui Santos (he was great in a couple of the preseason games, but has been awful in the two real games). It’s been defense, rebounding, pace, amazing depth, and … Buddy freaking Hield. Buddy per 36 to date…

50.4 pts on .927 TS
9.3 reb
7.2 ast
1.0 tov
+34.5 on court
+58.9 net on-off

Bring on the MF Celtics!!!
 
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If you filter out garbage time, Boston is +38 and GSW are +30 ;)

The Dubs look really deep this year, way different from prior iterations.
 

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If you filter out garbage time, Boston is +38 and GSW are +30 ;)
Another weird aspect of “best two game start ever” is they came out of the gates like crap in both games — trailed POR 18-11 and UTA 19-11 — before turning on the vaporizer jets. Part of that I think is a (provisional?) starting lineup with good size by Warriors standards but completely garbage shooting/spacing: Curry-Wiggins-Kuminga-Green-TJD.

We’ll see how long Kerr sticks with it. If Kuminga’s 3 pt shooting from pre-season isn’t real, I think he probably needs to be benched for Melton or Moody (or Hield, though I love him as bench sharpshooter when Steph sits). So far he’s been the one discordant note in an otherwise perfect symphony — especially with his potential extension still hanging out there. Moody’s the more beloved and possibly better player of the two right now to begin with; the fact that JK reportedly turned down an extension on the order of $30M a year to seek the rookie max while Moses agreed to $13M AAV raises the stakes on JK’s performance this season. Could get pretty spicy if JK keeps playing 18-20 mpg and looking like the 13th man.
 
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Another potential development: remember the Wiggins, Looney, and Payton who were arguably the #2-4 best players in the ‘22 championship run but then (for various reasons and to varying degrees) kinda fell of the rails the following two seasons? Well, they’re all still in their primes and look like they’ve returned to peak ‘22 form physically and mentally. Loon is leaner, meaner, and quicker (less slow) than ever, and Wiggs (13 boards in 23 minutes last night) looks like the guy who went toe to toe with Luka, Tatum and Brown in ‘22 playoffs and came away with the ring.

It’s a complete enigma how a guy with the gifts of Wiggs has been so disengaged for so much of his career. I thought about him when you guys were noting how physically overmatched Mikal Bridges looked v JT and JB in the opener. I thought the same thing watching Wiggs go up against Bridges in the ‘22 season; and it was one of the things that gave me hope for the playoffs that year *if* Wiggs could keep his head on straight. There’s just a qualitative difference between a little guard-wing like Bridges and apex 6’-7”-6’-9” athletes like Wiggs, JB, and JT. If the ‘22 Wiggs is actually back physically and emotionally, that raises the Warriors’ ceiling significantly (though the age of Steph and Dray probably lowers it).
 

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If the Warriors can continue with this play, November 6th is circled with a big red Sharpie.

Hopefully, it can be more than Kerr vs. Tatum grudge match, a sub-plot to the Celtic's Summer of Disrespect.

I'm sure 82 first-half points on the Warriors' head last year, hasn't been forgotten by Steph/Dray/Steve.

A reminder:
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If whatever was bothering Wiggins last season is past, its not crazy to expect him to have a bounce back season. Dude is still just 29...
 

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If whatever was bothering Wiggins last season is past, its not crazy to expect him to have a bounce back season. Dude is still just 29...
Bounce back to what exactly? He's had 1-2 legitimately good years, the rest of his career has been at best mildly disappointing considering his status as a former #1 overall pick:

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Such an odd player, and the 2nd biggest reason why Boston didn't win in 2022. Ugh.
 

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Bounce back to what exactly? He's had 1-2 legitimately good years, the rest of his career has been at best mildly disappointing considering his status as a former #1 overall pick:

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Such an odd player, and the 2nd biggest reason why Boston didn't win in 2022. Ugh.
Well I watched Wiggins be a large part of the Warriors championship two+ years ago and he was clearly not the same player last season. If he can get to that level again, the Warriors will be a lot tougher. The team has been pretty vault about it but he clearly was dealing with personal issues last season. As for his career, I would argue that he was overdrafted and like many professional athletes, their entry into their careers can have profound impacts on their trajectory.

Maybe you dont agree but the Wiggins who played against Boston in the finals was a very effective player.
 

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Bounce back to what exactly? He's had 1-2 legitimately good years, the rest of his career has been at best mildly disappointing considering his status as a former #1 overall pick:

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Such an odd player, and the 2nd biggest reason why Boston didn't win in 2022. Ugh.
Wiggins had some well known personal issues as well as family ones right when he was at the top of that curve. If his head is right bouncing back to that level is a realistic expectation.
 

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Well I watched Wiggins be a large part of the Warriors championship two+ years ago and he was clearly not the same player last season. If he can get to that level again, the Warriors will be a lot tougher. The team has been pretty vault about it but he clearly was dealing with personal issues last season. As for his career, I would argue that he was overdrafted and like many professional athletes, their entry into their careers can have profound impacts on their trajectory.

Maybe you dont agree but the Wiggins who played against Boston in the finals was a very effective player.
For sure that guy was a great player, but given what's happened to his career since, it seems a lot more likely that that guy doesn't exist anymore. It's not like he was a good player for 5-6 years followed by a mysterious dip in his late 20s, he had 1-2 good seasons surrounded 5-6 years of mediocrity (not even counting his first few seasons). We know that higher ceiling exists because we saw it on the highest stage, but he's in year 11. Inconsistent and unreliable seem like the most positive words to describe his career.

Wiggins had some well known personal issues as well as family ones right when he was at the top of that curve. If his head is right bouncing back to that level is a realistic expectation.
This is very true, and can be a real reason for optimism, but man was he bad last year. I wonder how long of a rope the Warriors give him if he struggles given their depth, but he does have a higher ceiling than all but a handful of guys on the roster. Their title chances depend on him figuring something out.
 

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Wiggins with a big game.

who on the Clippers locked up Curry for 18 points + 6 TOs?
(27 minutes; maybe Kerr is carrying his 12-man rotation a bit far)
 

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Wiggins with a big game.

who on the Clippers locked up Curry for 18 points + 6 TOs?
(27 minutes; maybe Kerr is carrying his 12-man rotation a bit far)
Curry left the game with an ankle injury.
 

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Curry left the game with an ankle injury.
Curry may have entered the game with a sore ankle. He was listed questionable the game before with a hip contusion and with how we know teams list injuries that could be a disguised way of saying it’s his ankle again to downplay it. This ain’t uncommon over the course of the season especially now with the new league injury report rules.

Green was questionable for Clippers game, looked limited and came out of the game in the 4Q just 4 min after checking back in. Their depth will likely be showcased this week.
 

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We've been spoiled by LeBron, but Father Time is undefeated, and that's what will ultimately be hard for the Warriors to overcome.

Peak Steph and Draymond, with this roster, would be a Finals contender imo, but they're not walking through that door anymore.
 

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Peak Steph and Draymond, with this roster, would be a Finals contender
I don't know. Yea they have crazy depth, but peak Steph and Draymond had peak Klay as well. And peak KD for a chunk of their run. I guess if Wiggins has turned back into peak Wiggins then maybe
 

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I don't know. Yea they have crazy depth, but peak Steph and Draymond had peak Klay as well. And peak KD for a chunk of their run. I guess if Wiggins has turned back into peak Wiggins then maybe
tbf, "Finals contender" is a much much lower bar than "unbeatable team in the conversation for greatest team ever", which is what they were with peak KD. I was not claiming they were close to that.
 

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Kuminga was brought off the bench last night, though he hadn't been told an hour before tipoff. Story here: https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/29/warriors-bringing-jonathan-kuminga-off-the-bench-vs-pelicans/. Will be an interesting story to watch.

Sixty-five minutes before tipoff, Jonathan Kuminga stood at his locker after running pregame sprints across the Warriors’ training-room floor in the Chase Center. As he warmed up, ESPN reported that the Warriors were bringing him off the bench even though they had Steph Curry, Andrew Wiggins and De’Anthony Melton unavailable.
Kuminga said he hadn’t yet talked face-to-face with Steve Kerr about the decision.
“It’s his decision,” Kuminga said. “I’m not the coach. If Steve’s made his decision, he’s made his decision. I’m not the coach.”
Kuminga said he’s “not tripping” about coming off the bench, but that there is growing skepticism within Kuminga’s camp about Kerr’s commitment to featuring the wing in Golden State’s offense.
Just three games into the season, after Kuminga’s camp and the Warriors couldn’t strike a deal on a rookie extension, tensions are bubbling between the two sides.
 

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Kuminga was brought off the bench last night, though he hadn't been told an hour before tipoff. Story here: https://www.mercurynews.com/2024/10/29/warriors-bringing-jonathan-kuminga-off-the-bench-vs-pelicans/. Will be an interesting story to watch.

Sixty-five minutes before tipoff, Jonathan Kuminga stood at his locker after running pregame sprints across the Warriors’ training-room floor in the Chase Center. As he warmed up, ESPN reported that the Warriors were bringing him off the bench even though they had Steph Curry, Andrew Wiggins and De’Anthony Melton unavailable.
Kuminga said he hadn’t yet talked face-to-face with Steve Kerr about the decision.
“It’s his decision,” Kuminga said. “I’m not the coach. If Steve’s made his decision, he’s made his decision. I’m not the coach.”
Kuminga said he’s “not tripping” about coming off the bench, but that there is growing skepticism within Kuminga’s camp about Kerr’s commitment to featuring the wing in Golden State’s offense.
Just three games into the season, after Kuminga’s camp and the Warriors couldn’t strike a deal on a rookie extension, tensions are bubbling between the two sides.
Please let what happened to Tatum come back to bite Kerr with Kuminaga.

Seeing what happened with Tatum can't be sitting well with Kuminga’s camp.
 

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This is ridiculous. Kuminga is shooting 17% from three and 38% overall. He had a promising year last year, but it was hardly good enough of a year for him to earn a starting gig. Kerr should be benching him. Moody took his place in the starting lineup and went 5-6 from three for 17 points. Seems like Kerr may know what he is doing
 

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This is ridiculous. Kuminga is shooting 17% from three and 38% overall. He had a promising year last year, but it was hardly good enough of a year for him to earn a starting gig. Kerr should be benching him. Moody took his place in the starting lineup and went 5-6 from three for 17 points. Seems like Kerr may know what he is doing
And they rolled NO without Curry or Wiggins.
 

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tbf, "Finals contender" is a much much lower bar than "unbeatable team in the conversation for greatest team ever", which is what they were with peak KD. I was not claiming they were close to that.
Yea there are arguably six to seven contenders this year with an overwhelming favorite
 

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This is ridiculous. Kuminga is shooting 17% from three and 38% overall. He had a promising year last year, but it was hardly good enough of a year for him to earn a starting gig. Kerr should be benching him. Moody took his place in the starting lineup and went 5-6 from three for 17 points. Seems like Kerr may know what he is doing
Citing shooting numbers after three games is a bit ridiculous imo.