I'm going to be super bummed when the only real pitching prospect in the system is poached in Rule 5. This team is such a slow motion car crash right now.
Ok, very short look at Smith instead.Some weird choices on that list. Lots of pitchers with control issues & hitters with strikeout issues.
Wouldn't mind taking a long look at Logan Workman or Shane Smith, & hope someone takes Messinger away from the Yankees out of general principle.
Who do we stand to lose there?I'm more worried about the AAA portion.
Anybody in particular? Last year they left a ton of guys unprotected & didn't even fill their whole list. But haven't looked into potential losses this year. Here's the SP list of players who would need protecting...I'm more worried about the AAA portion.
Based off of this, anyone who is rule 5 eligible and not placed on the AAA roster, if I am reading it correctly.Who do we stand to lose there?
While the Major League Rule 5 Draft captures the majority of the headlines, the draft also has a Minor League portion that allows teams to select minor league prospects from other teams and add them to their farm system.
In the MiLB phase, any player who meets the same eligibility requirements of the MLB Rule 5 Draft who is not added to the organization's 38-man Triple-A roster can be selected by another team. Players taken in the MiLB phase do not need to be added to the 40-Man or active roster and can be assigned to any level of their new team's Minor League system.
The heart wants what the heart wants, I guess. I'll take Yordanny's upside over the collection of AAAA guys or the guys with amazing stuff who have no idea where it's going.If that were remotely true I'd also be super bummed about it.
But it's not so I'll just be regular bummed cause I like Yordanny.
iakavos (idk who he is other than the guy who starts gameday threads with inferior titles & a global mod over there)FWIW, I'd argue that 2019 Lowell Noah Song may have been more ready for MLB than Monegro is now. The unique circumstance was that he hadn't pitched in years when he was eligible.
There's a reason he hasn't shown up on BA's extensive preview. Guys like Monegro who throw 75% secondaries and have fringy fastballs have a tough time hanging in MLB.
He certainly could get picked - it just takes one team, right? I don't think he will, and if he does, I bet he is returned.
https://forum.soxprospects.com/thread/7164/2024-rule-5-draft?page=9Song was a special case of Dombowski revenge.
And yes, kids are often selected that aren't ready. But nothing about Monegro screams capable of being stashed on a big league club. Decent fastball velo, but fringe command and control. Good slider but nothing else that's great. JJ Cooper has gone through iterations of intriguing Rule 5 guys, no mention of Monegro. Maybe he's way off. Maybe I am, too.
Yeahhh...I mean I think they're absolutely crazy on the whole Yordanny thing. Some day we shall see who was right.Well they've had Yordanny ranked about ten spots too low for years now, so their appraisals are internally consistent. They had Wikelman in the top 10 when he was still throwing 6 BB/9.
A team can select a player from its own organization. The Braves did so during the Ed Olwine era when Sanford and Son was the highlight of the TBS broadcast schedule. But that player is still subject to Rule 5 restrictions, so they would have to be passed through waivers before being “returned” and sent to the minor leagues without restrictions.Can a team take its own player in the Rule 5 draft? If there were some backpeddling in the FO, and they really want to keep YORDANNY, could they select him? And then return him to...themselves?
Who do we stand to lose there?
Yeah, it's a bit of a mystery who is on the list and who isn't. That is part of my concern. I think we have a lot of depth and could lose someone interesting.Anybody in particular? Last year they left a ton of guys unprotected & didn't even fill their whole list. But haven't looked into potential losses this year. Here's the SP list of players who would need protecting...
Ugh. I’m not heartbroken about any of them individually but all four together is rough. Meidroth really should be worth more than being a throw-in in a deal like this.
We're pretty rich in plus outfielders at the big club. I've been down on Meidroth at the next level for his total lack of power. it's reasonable to have to give up a pitching talent to get pitching talent. Losing Teel hurts.Everything but Montgomery I can rationalize in that deal... but blah.
The Red Sox have presumably spent most of the last 6 months with Montgomery stashed in the lab. I have to assume they have a good idea what they are giving up.Everything but Montgomery I can rationalize in that deal... but blah.
Doubt he's even healthy, yet.The Red Sox have presumably spent most of the last 6 months with Montgomery stashed in the lab. I have to assume they have a good idea what they are giving up.
Harris is 31. He pitched 19.1 innings for the Nats in '23 (5.12 ERA).Red Sox draft Hobie Harris RHP from the Mets.
The kid is young and coming off injury, I doubt they've learned much. I think it's as simple as you gotta give talent to get talent. 26 year old starters that are proven at the MLB level being available in trade is a pretty rare commodity right now.The Red Sox have presumably spent most of the last 6 months with Montgomery stashed in the lab. I have to assume they have a good idea what they are giving up.
Garcia turns 26 in April. He's 6'3 & had a 4.50 ERA in 44 innings in A+ last season (he pitched 1 inning in AA, badly). 8.8 k/9, 5.5 bb/9.Round 2 - Red Sox take Darvin Garcia RHP from Pirates High-A.
Which r5 is this? Do these guys need to go on our 40?Round 2 - Red Sox take Darvin Garcia RHP from Pirates High-A.
Minor League R5. No. They don't need to do anything with them. They're just buying MiLB players for $24k basically.Which r5 is this? Do these guys need to go on our 40?
He turns 23 in March. Has pitched a total of 124 innings in 5 seasons with a max of 40.1 in 2022.Red Sox take Manuel Medina LHP from Marlins Low-A.