2023 US Open - Los Angeles Country Club

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It also looked terrible for live viewing... the spectators were never near the action.
I dunno, I don't watch a tournament to see the fans. I'm more interested in seeing the layout and, on that score, this was a terrific venue -- lots of different, challenging holes. Enjoyed watching it far more than prefab courses with built in spectator venues.
But that's just my preference, I guess. The (British) Open is my favorite tournament to watch each year
 

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What do y'alls think about LACC as a US Open venue?
Glad they went to LACC, it held its own after the kind of soft/easy first day, but I don't see a reason to go back too often. They're scheduled again in 2039 which feels right. Golf Digest has it 10th on its most current list of American courses. Gut impression impression from viewing this week is it probably shouldn't be bucketed alongside other Open rotation courses at the top of that list like Oakmont, Pebble Beach, Shinnecock, Merion, etc. I did like the unique green complexes with their crazy deep grass and waste areas.
 

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I missed the explanation for that ruling. Why did he get a free drop? I mean, he hit a crap shot and it got buried and too bad for him (I'm a Rory fan, so don't misunderstand). Why should he have gotten relief from that? It wasn't like it went into a person's shoe or anything. It got buried in a bunker, which is totally fair game. I mean, the other day, I had not one but TWO (first two of my life) shots bury under the lip of a bunker. I had to play them. It sure would have been nice to be able to take the ball out of there, but nope.
It wasn't in the bunker, it was in the grass above the bunker. He wouldn't have gotten relief if it had been in the sand.

We saw the same thing within the last month when two different players drove their balls into the lip above fairway bunkers in the same tournament; they got the same relief as Rory (but worse lies because of how the bunker was oriented to the hole).

As for why that particular instance gets relief, because the rules say so. I'm not so sure you weren't entitled to relief on your balls, based on what we've seen with the tour players.
 

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I think the ball has to be imbedded in the earth, not just lost in the grass. thats why the rules official was sticking her finger into the spot where the ball was removed from. to feel if if broke the surface into the dirt beneath the grass.
 

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Ok that makes sense - insofar as it's part of the rules. But my thought is....why? If your ball gets embedded in the earth...too bad my dude. Unplayable lie penalty. Why should that be any different than hitting a ball into a bush?

I mean, there's all kinds of minute rules that golf has to follow that penalize players. I don't get why this one is an exception. But then again...nobody asked me!
 

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From the link in post 504:


Reasons for Change:
This is an appropriate exception to the principle of playing the ball as it lies because having to play a ball that is stuck in soft or wet ground (whether in the fairway or the rough) should not be considered part of the normal challenge of playing a course.
 

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He wasn't getting anything to drop from mid-long range but the short miss on the front 9 that led to a par on the par 5 stands out as the one big one that he couldn't afford.
And those kinds of things have befallen him so often. He should probably have at least 3 more majors, but he too often [seems to lose concentration?] on very makeable putts - usually less than 10 feet, sometimes less than 5. They juuuussssttt slide past. Just as it did on that 5-footer on 8.
 
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And those kinds of things have befallen him so often. He should probably have at least 3 more majors, but he too often [seems to lose concentration?] on very makeable putts - usually less than 10 feet, sometimes less than 5. They juuuussssttt slide past. Just as it did on that 5-footer on 8.
When you look at the incredible record of Jack and Tiger, what really separates these guys (at their peak) is that they could make that 10 ft putt every single time in a major.
 

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What separate Jack from everyone else is that he finished 2d 19 times in majors. Rory won't come close to that, and neither did Tiger.
 

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And those kinds of things have befallen him so often. He should probably have at least 3 more majors, but he too often [seems to lose concentration?] on very makeable putts - usually less than 10 feet, sometimes less than 5. They juuuussssttt slide past. Just as it did on that 5-footer on 8.
Just to kind of close the loop on Rory, I'm not sure that I totally agree that these things happen so often. I don't think he's faced a lot of those mid-range pressure cooker putts. I think his biggest issue since his last major win is his inability to get into contention. There are countless majors where he'd make the cut around the number and then go out early on a Sunday and shoot a 65 and back door a top 5 or top 10. Looks good on the resume in hindsight, but never had a chance to win the golf tournament.

He's now been in contention in 2 of the last 4 majors, which IMO, is steps in the right direction.