2022 World Cup News Thread

67YAZ

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Goodness. So inspiring to read that multi-millionaire international athletes almost had the courage to put a piece of fabric on their arms. Shepherding a trans child through multiple suicide attempts and struggling for years working out their crippling gender dysphoria, I get how hard it must be for real men of courage like Harry Kane to risk having some crusty old man wave a yellow card in your face on tv. I couldn’t bear the thought of it. I’ll be able to sleep better tonight knowing that millions of football fans the world over won’t have to worry about those mean old men at FIFA getting crabby because some young men almost worked up the guts to say something icky like “killing trans people is bad.” Thank god for the cooler heads at FIFA or someone might get upset and cry in their Bud Zero.
Powerful & right.
 

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The German interest is down or they are boycotting effectively. It's in German, but viewership was way down for the opening match (10 million in 2018, 6.2 million yesterday). This assumes streaming isn't screwing things up.
 

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The German interest is down or they are boycotting effectively. It's in German, but viewership was way down for the opening match (10 million in 2018, 6.2 million yesterday). This assumes streaming isn't screwing things up.
There’s a pretty big boycott movement in Berlin, at least. I’ve heard that the bars in Friedrichshain (a very lefty neighborhood) have agreed not to show any games. Not sure if everyone is agreed on that or not, but it’s definitely a thing. I’ve got a group of friends here who go to 4th division games together - pretty split between English and American. We are watching the game on Friday at one guy’s apartment because we couldn’t find anywhere else decent to watch.. An American in the group is refusing to watch at all.
 

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Sorry, very casual soccer fan - I saw some allegations of Qatar paying off the Ecuadorians for their match yesterday, but don’t see any mention in threads here. Is it not a serious accusation?
 

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Sorry, very casual soccer fan - I saw some allegations of Qatar paying off the Ecuadorians for their match yesterday, but don’t see any mention in threads here. Is it not a serious accusation?
Was really put up by one source with no firm corroboration that I saw. May have scared the offer off the table or Senegal didn't accept, but nothing in the Senegalese performance showed a hint of dishonesty.
 

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Sorry, very casual soccer fan - I saw some allegations of Qatar paying off the Ecuadorians for their match yesterday, but don’t see any mention in threads here. Is it not a serious accusation?
It was a sketchy source and picked up by tabloids, also Ecuador won 2 - 0 which blunts that story.
 

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If you stream on peacock with ads, does that affect watching a soccer match at all? They don’t interrupt the play with ads do they? And can you record a game on peacock, or only stream live? Gracias.
I do not know actually. I paid the $9.99 for no ads. Tomorrow’s Argentina match will be the first I watch on the app, so I’ll let you know about recording or post live streaming.
 

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Sorry, very casual soccer fan - I saw some allegations of Qatar paying off the Ecuadorians for their match yesterday, but don’t see any mention in threads here. Is it not a serious accusation?
The important thing to remember is that English tabloid sports pages are the Newsmax of sports reporting.

Ecuador, the team accused of having agreed to take a dive, took it to the hosts hard for 90 minutes and won 2-0.
 

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Classic FIFA.
View: https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1594819565724344334

FIFA rejects Belgium's away shirts due to word 'Love' http://reut.rs/3gsNhHy
Nov 21 (Reuters) - FIFA has rejected the Belgium soccer team's away strip because of the word "Love" in the collar, a spokesperson for the Red Devils said on Monday.
The design of the shirt, which includes a rainbow-coloured trim, was inspired by the fireworks of Belgian's famous music festival Tomorrowland and stands for diversity, equality and inclusivity.
However, Belgium spokesperson Stefan Van Loock said FIFA was rejecting the shirt not because of the colours, which are typically linked to LGBTQ+, but because of the commercial link to Tomorrowland.
FIFA is allowing Belgium to play with the away shirts if the word "Love" on the etiquette is taped over but Van Loock said the Red Devils will play the first three games in their main red shirt regardless.
Literally a Ted Lasso plotline.
 

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Perhaps, but that early Offsides call was very sketchy
It was weird (half because it was tight, honestly half because it was just a very weird situation you rarely see where that many defenders are behind the GK). Keep in mind though that the actual rumor was about buying off the Ecuador players, and that was be a weird ref call, so those two things don't line up with each other really.
 

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If you stream on peacock with ads, does that affect watching a soccer match at all? They don’t interrupt the play with ads do they? And can you record a game on peacock, or only stream live? Gracias.
They show 30 seconds of ads when you start watching then it’s ad free except they may show a bank of ads during halftime…. You can watch on delay as well…. The ads haven’t affected my experience.
 

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Lots of complaints by Welsh and Americans that rainbow colored gear was confiscated yesterday. The Qatari Supreme Committee to issue a statement soon.
Grant Wahl was detained yesterday for wearing rainbow colored shirt. After about 30 minutes, during which they took his phone, he was allowed to enter without changing. They claimed they were trying to protect him from fans.

Grant Wahl "detained" before USA game for wearing rainbow shirt - Futbol on FanNation (si.com)

 

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I feel like this is a dull 3-0. I enjoyed some of the 0-0s more. Go figure.
Spain were really positive through those first 3 goals. If they keep playing like that, they’re going to be really hard to stop in this tournament.
 

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Multiple reports (slightly inconsistent) about Neymar missing games due to his ankle injury.

Consensus that he's out vs Switzerland. Done reports that he's doubtful for Cameroon and others that he's out of the group stage entirely.
 

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Neymar and Danilo were injured yesterday. Probably out for the rest of the group phase, they will try to get them back for the rest of the competition.
 

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Onana had a fight with his manager and is leaving the World Cup:
View: https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1597156627094069248










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André Onana has been removed from Cameroon’s squad. Been told that the reason is a discussion with head coach as he insisted for different style of goalkeeping, more ‘traditional’
#Qatar2022 Onana has no intention to change his style — tense situation & so he’s been excluded.


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4:13 AM · Nov 28, 2022·Twitter for iPhone


I don't think he's necessarily wrong that Song's management is pretty poor. Aside from that, Onana isn't a good goalkeeper. Full stop. He's an absolute bonehead on the pitch, plays an unconventional and error-prone style, and already has drug suspension history. He's sabotaging what little career prospects he might have.
 

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this is all so unfortunate.

Song has coached the national youth sides for years now. He and Onana know each other very well. There’s definitely history here that has boiled over in the world stage.
 

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Should've made it "Big 5 / UCL / UEL", I think that more closely would show the comparison he's going for.

(Tutul Rahman is an awesome follow though - he was a USMNT twitter superfan, who ended up getting hired to do marketing for the San Jose Earthquakes in MLS, he's just a total football geek)
 

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So the R16 is almost entirely set, and it's looking like the composition by confederation will be:

UEFA (8): NED, CRO, ENG, FRA, POL, SPA, POR, SUI
AFC (3): JPN, KOR, AUS
CAF (2): SEN, MOR
CONMEBOL (2): BRA, ARG
CONCACAF (1): USA

In recent world cups, UEFA has sent these to the knockouts:

2018: 10
2014: 6
2010: 6
2006: 10

Hard to really say whether there's much lessening of UEFA dominance by this measure, but either way, go Cameroon.

edit: aaaaaand we're final, so removing the hypotheticals.
 
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So the R16 is almost entirely set, and it's looking like the composition by confederation will be:

UEFA (8): NED, CRO, ENG, FRA, POL, SPA, POR, SUI (SRB still alive)
AFC (3): JPN, KOR, AUS
CAF (2): SEN, MOR (CMR still alive)
CONMEBOL (2): BRA, ARG
CONCACAF (1): USA

In recent world cups, UEFA has sent these to the knockouts:

2018: 10
2014: 6
2010: 6
2006: 10

Hard to really say whether there's much lessening of UEFA dominance by this measure, but either way, go Cameroon.
What was remarkable in 2018 was that 6 of 8 got through and all 4 of the final 4 were UEFA. I really thought going into this world cup that it would be more of the same but so far from the eye test, some of the tactical superiority that seemed so apparent last time has been missing with some of the Europe sides. As you say, we'll see.

One thing that feels much different this time is set pieces. I feel as though there have been very few. In 2018 about 40 percent of the goals were on set plays. I cannot find stats for 2022 yet, but it feels like fewer. I tend to associate the European tactical dominance with set piece proficiency, which may be kind of silly but I do. Maybe that's just weird mind tricks.
 

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Starting in 1998, Africa has had 5 slots at the WC (6 in 2010 when South Africa hosted).

1998 - 1 advanced from group, 15pts total group stage
2002 - 1 advanced from group, 15pts total group stage, Senegal to QF
2006 - 1 advanced from group, 12pts total group stage
2010 - 1 advanced from group, 14pts total group stage, Ghana to QF
2014 - 2 advanced from group, 12pts total group stage
2018 - 0 advanced from group, 11pts total group stage
2022 - 2 advanced from group, 24pts total group stage, TBD

So 2022 is a really nice collective performance for CAF and a nice platform to look ahead to 2026. If only Mané had been here...