2022 Patriots off-season, non-FA thread

DJnVa

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Patriots and Panthers looking to do joint practices this summer.

 

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As proof, he references them doing it with Antonio Brown the year before ... kind of sidestepping the fact that because they supposedly *didn't* do it this year he lost his shit and left the team.
 

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Total horseshit. The Pats have paid out some of those bonuses without guys even reaching them.
Yep. That's super annoying and not classy of Gronk at all. Say what you want about BB, but he usually gives guys these extras, and could even be argued that when he trades players, he is willing to take less of a package back in order to send a player to a location he (the player) likes.
 
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Gronk is not a deep thinker. Probably often blurts things out recklessly (as here) going for a laugh or reaction. He’ll need to mature a bit if he ever wants a lasting TV or entertainment gig. I have no doubt the Pats are a tough, demanding organization to play for, but they are certainly no less fair with their bonuses, etc. than any other team. And they facilitated his hall of fame career, which will keep him riding high the rest of his life.
 

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Interesting, on the face of it this was altruistic in that it didn't benefit the cap (or so determines Field Yates). Its curious, but if it bought good will and did no harm as Gronk was going nowhere that may have been the calculus.

Gronk is not a deep thinker. Probably often blurts things out recklessly (as here) going for a laugh or reaction. He’ll need to mature a bit if he ever wants a lasting TV or entertainment gig. I have no doubt the Pats are a tough, demanding organization to play for, but they are certainly no less fair with their bonuses, etc. than any other team. And they facilitated his hall of fame career, which will keep him riding high the rest of his life.
He definitely blurts things out, but why are you so sure they have the same approach to incentives as the rest of the league? A quick google didn't turn up anything relevant that I could see, so I'm unable to provide an informed counterposition.

That said, BB certainly has gone out if his way to hold down upward mobility for his coaches (denying media access, refusing to assign basic coaching roles) and they are pretty famously not in the business of keeping players around for sentimental reasons.

We can ridicule Gronk, but its possible his perception the Patriots will avoid paying incentives by managing a players on-field time isn't his alone.
 

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That said, BB certainly has gone out if his way to hold down upward mobility for his coaches (denying media access, refusing to assign basic coaching roles) and they are pretty famously not in the business of keeping players around for sentimental reasons.
I think this is somewhat debatable. There are certainly things he doesn't do for his coaches but it also seems that he uses this considerable influence to get a lot of his coaches/executives into pretty terrific situations.
 

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Seems weird to say BB holds back his coaches then we lament the brain drain in here every few offseasons.
 

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Seems weird to say BB holds back his coaches then we lament the brain drain in here every few offseasons.
Sure, he does it to limit the brain drain.

He certainly looks to have held back Caserio and Ossenfort from GM interviews and blocked McDaniels from head coaching interviews. it is what it is, I'm not even saying they should do it differently.
 

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Ugh, Clayton Weishuhn died in a crash. He had a brief career, but I loved watching that guy.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/angelo-state-football-legend-clayton-034207179.html
Damn, that is sad news. Hadn’t thought of him in years, but what a force he was for a short time. 229 tackles in 1983, on a team that hung around the playoff hunt until the last week, finishing 8-8. Unfortunately, a horrendous knee injury the following year knocked him out for a season and a half, and he never got to play in the super bowl against the Bears. By ‘86 he was injured again, traded to Green Bay, played in only a few games in ‘87, and was out of football by age 27. Definitely one of the all time what if/could have beens for the Patriots.
 

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His nickname was The Baby Rattler… the LB crew the Pats were assembling at that time (Blackmon, Tippett, Weisuhn, McGrew, an aging Nelson) was incredible.

RIP
 

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Damn, that is sad news. Hadn’t thought of him in years, but what a force he was for a short time. 229 tackles in 1983, on a team that hung around the playoff hunt until the last week, finishing 8-8. Unfortunately, a horrendous knee injury the following year knocked him out for a season and a half, and he never got to play in the super bowl against the Bears. By ‘86 he was injured again, traded to Green Bay, played in only a few games in ‘87, and was out of football by age 27. Definitely one of the all time what if/could have beens for the Patriots.
229 tackles is still the franchise single-season record.
 

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I loved those LBs, I was in high school and I wore #50 because of Larry McGrew. Clayton had that one great year. Damn, shame that he died before his time.
 

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Not only did they give Matt Sokol Gronk's number, they spelled his name wrong in the tweet

edit: loohs lihe K becomes an H in that font
Mach Wilson Sr is a pretty awesome name, though. Should be a character in Top Gun.
 
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A first as far as I can recall: the last two mandatory minicamp sessions were cancelled by Belichick, with players allowed to come back for optional sessions next week in prep for full camp in July.

Seemingly unrelated, but very weird, there was an apparent on-field fight between Cole Strange and Matt Judon on the last day of minicamp, following a scrimmage pileup for a fumble. Strange apparently dove at Judon's legs, prompting O and D to scuffle collectively.

https://musketfire.com/2022/06/11/matt-judon-showed-leadership-response-cole-strange-scuffle/
 

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A first as far as I can recall: the last two mandatory minicamp sessions were cancelled by Belichick, with players allowed to come back for optional sessions next week in prep for full camp in July.

Seemingly unrelated, but very weird, there was an apparent on-field fight between Cole Strange and Matt Judon on the last day of minicamp, following a scrimmage pileup for a fumble. Strange apparently dove at Judon's legs, prompting O and D to scuffle collectively.

https://musketfire.com/2022/06/11/matt-judon-showed-leadership-response-cole-strange-scuffle/
I believe he has done this before, but don't have receipts, so going strictly by imperfect memory.

The fight seemed like an over-exuberant rookie trying to make an impression and made a mistake that, for obvious reasons, elicited a response from the defense. But those things happen from time to time, so not exactly very weird.
 

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Given how team practices are now more significantly limited under the CBA, BB willingly ceding mandatory practice time is plain odd.
 

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Given how team practices are now more significantly limited under the CBA, BB willingly ceding mandatory practice time is plain odd.
It's not odd for the Pats;

Coach Bill Belichick seems to like the progress at this point, as evidenced by his canceling the final practice of mandatory minicamp Thursday and the final two voluntary organized team activities scheduled for next week.

That has been commonplace in recent years, with Belichick rewarding the team for its work, with the belief that a foundation has been established leading into training camp in late July.
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