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Happy for Scottie. Not the best round but the most consistent four. Well at least for 71.75 holes.
what an incredible 2 months for him.

kind of was hoping for an 8 putt so Rory could back in through
 

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That was a phenomenal 4 putt.
My wife won $400 in a pool because of the 4 putt. It was pick 4 guys, cumulative score, winner take all. She was 2 behind, and went from tied for 2nd to a 3 way tie for first. The guy who had Scheffler must be livid, he had $1200 in the bag, instead it got split 3 ways so Scheffler's yips cost him $800.
 

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My wife won $400 in a pool because of the 4 putt. It was pick 4 guys, cumulative score, winner take all. She was 2 behind, and went from tied for 2nd to a 3 way tie for first. The guy who had Scheffler must be livid, he had $1200 in the bag, instead it got split 3 ways so Scheffler's yips cost him $800.
I was in a pool with a similar (cumulative score) format and the four-jack on 18 vaulted the third place team ahead of the two teams that had been tied at the top and pushed them into second.

I think first prize was $600 (wasn’t as big as the one you were in) so it cost them about $300 each.
 

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To me, Cam Smith made two crucial mistakes today to seal his fate. The first was at three, and was a classic match play mistake. He was coming off back to back birdies to cut the three shot lead to one, and was clearly feeling it. Scheffler hooks one a mile left and is in deep shit. Cam had to be walking down the fairway thinking they'd be tied (at best) heading to four. After his relief from temporary (not temporary) obstruction, he leaves it down below the green. In match play you always have to assume your opponent will make his shot and I don't think the possibility ever entered Cam's mind. Scheffler has the amazing chip in and Cam responds with back to back bogeys, the lead was right back to where it began, and I think it took Cam quite a few holes to shake that off. The second mistake was at 12 and was covered in the thread to some extent already. Cam was coming off an improbable birdie at 11 and was again feeling it. Literally every single Masters veteran says you play the shot over the front bunker for safety regardless of pin position. Down three with two reachable par 5's to go this isn't the time to be a hero. Cam no doubt looked back to 17 at TPC and his caddy certainly was along for the ride. I guess all of it just comes down to experience. To me, that's where an experienced guy like Ted Scott on Scheffler's bag could have honestly been the difference in this thing.

Oh, and Faldo totally spoiling the McIlroy hole out on 18 ruined the day for me...he needs to be gone.
 

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To me, Cam Smith made two crucial mistakes today to seal his fate. The first was at three, and was a classic match play mistake. He was coming off back to back birdies to cut the three shot lead to one, and was clearly feeling it. Scheffler hooks one a mile left and is in deep shit. Cam had to be walking down the fairway thinking they'd be tied (at best) heading to four. After his relief from temporary (not temporary) obstruction, he leaves it down below the green. In match play you always have to assume your opponent will make his shot and I don't think the possibility ever entered Cam's mind. Scheffler has the amazing chip in and Cam responds with back to back bogeys, the lead was right back to where it began, and I think it took Cam quite a few holes to shake that off. The second mistake was at 12 and was covered in the thread to some extent already. Cam was coming off an improbable birdie at 11 and was again feeling it. Literally every single Masters veteran says you play the shot over the front bunker for safety regardless of pin position. Down three with two reachable par 5's to go this isn't the time to be a hero. Cam no doubt looked back to 17 at TPC and his caddy certainly was along for the ride. I guess all of it just comes down to experience. To me, that's where an experienced guy like Ted Scott on Scheffler's bag could have honestly been the difference in this thing.

Oh, and Faldo totally spoiling the McIlroy hole out on 18 ruined the day for me...he needs to be gone.
It’s kind of amazing how many have lost it on number 12.
 

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It’s kind of amazing how many have lost it on number 12.
Needlessly too. A pair of eagle-able Par 5's are still to come and 16 and 18 both have pin locations designed to be receptive to approach shots. There's room to make up several shots still.

I saw Smith's post-round and he said it was a "perfect 9-iron" shot for him but it was dumb. He was feeling momentum after draining the birdie putt on 11 and his brain shut off.
 

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I don't really disagree, but I can kinda see where Cam was coming from. He was 3-back with 7 to play. Cam was probably thinking he had to go get it. You can say he had two par 5's and accessible pins at 16 and 18, but so did Scottie who had shown no indication of slipping. In order to comeback, I think Cam had to try and make it happen on the non-birdie holes.
 

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I don't really disagree, but I can kinda see where Cam was coming from. He was 3-back with 7 to play. Cam was probably thinking he had to go get it. You can say he had two par 5's and accessible pins at 16 and 18, but so did Scottie who had shown no indication of slipping. In order to comeback, I think Cam had to try and make it happen on the non-birdie holes.

Yeah this is what I was getting at last night. Scheffler was playing well with no signs of slowing down. Cam needed to try and make something happen. He made a shitty swing.

Aside from the 4 putt double putt on 18 Scotty was 2 under 13-17. Say Cam birdies both par 5s, he still needed 2 or 3 more birdies. He had to push it.

Now if you’re going to say well if he pars 13 maybe Scheffler feels the heat and plays different, I guess I can see it but I’m not sure if it would have mattered.
 

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Needlessly too. A pair of eagle-able Par 5's are still to come and 16 and 18 both have pin locations designed to be receptive to approach shots. There's room to make up several shots still.

I saw Smith's post-round and he said it was a "perfect 9-iron" shot for him but it was dumb. He was feeling momentum after draining the birdie putt on 11 and his brain shut off.
15 is not an eagle hole. I don't think there was a single eagle in the entire tournament this year. Otherwise, you're spot on.
 

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Yeah, CBS showed the stat that there was not one Eagle this week on 15. First time in this tourney since 1965 that 15 did not have an Eagle.

That is crazy.
 

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Golfers took Mickelson’s words to heart in his absence.

“A par on 15 is a good score”
 

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Yeah, CBS showed the stat that there was not one Eagle this week on 15. First time in this tourney since 1965 that 15 did not have an Eagle.

That is crazy.
I think lengthening it took the risk/reward and thus a variance of scores out of it.
 

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I think lengthening it took the risk/reward and thus a variance of scores out of it.
It certainly did this year, but I chalk that up to the very unusual weather - cold with high winds - more than the lengthening.

550 is still a short par 5 for these players. I think we’ll see plenty of eagle chances going forward.
 

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No doubt about it. The extra 20 yards meant many drives were funnelling left down the slope instead of staying up on the right side of the fairway to allow guys to go for it.
 

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It certainly did this year, but I chalk that up to the very unusual weather - cold with high winds - more than the lengthening.

550 is still a short par 5 for these players. I think we’ll see plenty of eagle chances going forward.

Yeah, Scottie's second was 224 yesterday and I was a bit shocked he went for it as he needed a long draw to get around the trees. And he hit it over the green.
 

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Yeah, Scottie's second was 224 yesterday and I was a bit shocked he went for it as he needed a long draw to get around the trees. And he hit it over the green.
I was sitting there thinking that was an absolutely wild and unnecessary shot at that point for Scheffler but then he did that. Crazy.
 

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How much do you think Tiger's presence helped the other golfers like Scheffler? Do you think the media and fan attention being largely on Tiger has any impact on the other golfers in the field? Less pressure? No big deal either way?
 

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I was sitting there thinking that was an absolutely wild and unnecessary shot at that point for Scheffler but then he did that. Crazy.
I don't think it was crazy or unecessary. He basically took the water on as soon as possible which in some ways mitigates his risk. If his 2nd shot goes in, he takes a penalty and drops up by the water and has a reasonable chance of getting up and down for a par, and bogey is likely his worst outcome. If he lays up, he still has to carry the water with his 3rd and he could just as easily over spin a wedge back in to the water or land it on the false front and have it roll back in. Then he's playing his 5th and still has to cover the hazard.

Basically, if you're going in to the water, it's better to do it on your 2nd shot than your 3rd.
 

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To me, Cam Smith made two crucial mistakes today to seal his fate. The first was at three, and was a classic match play mistake. He was coming off back to back birdies to cut the three shot lead to one, and was clearly feeling it. Scheffler hooks one a mile left and is in deep shit. Cam had to be walking down the fairway thinking they'd be tied (at best) heading to four. After his relief from temporary (not temporary) obstruction, he leaves it down below the green. In match play you always have to assume your opponent will make his shot and I don't think the possibility ever entered Cam's mind. Scheffler has the amazing chip in and Cam responds with back to back bogeys, the lead was right back to where it began, and I think it took Cam quite a few holes to shake that off. The second mistake was at 12 and was covered in the thread to some extent already. Cam was coming off an improbable birdie at 11 and was again feeling it. Literally every single Masters veteran says you play the shot over the front bunker for safety regardless of pin position. Down three with two reachable par 5's to go this isn't the time to be a hero. Cam no doubt looked back to 17 at TPC and his caddy certainly was along for the ride. I guess all of it just comes down to experience. To me, that's where an experienced guy like Ted Scott on Scheffler's bag could have honestly been the difference in this thing.

Oh, and Faldo totally spoiling the McIlroy hole out on 18 ruined the day for me...he needs to be gone.
I do agree that Smith made a mistake o 3, but I tend to think it was opposite what you see. After Scottie leaves that shot down in the valley, he went for the perfect shot, and instead needed to get it up on the green for an easy 2 putt, rather than trying to get it within 5 feet for the birdie attempt. Having Cam sitting 2 feet away emboldens the next shot from Scottie. Admittedly it was a miracle shot that one inch to either side probably leaves Scottie with a tough 6-8 foot par putt there.