So, all coming together that Brady becomes OC for two years, then takes over after Bill retires?
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Jokes aside, this does now open what was thought to be a closed issue ... with the heir apparent moving on, what will the Krafts do post-BB
Jerod Mayo might get a shot at a HC job somewhere else in the meantime, but maybe they will groom him to take over.
True, but assuming he doesn't get poached this off-season, maybe he will. It seems like he's highly regarded around the league.
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Are we going full circle? When they fired Flores, my immediate assumption was it was to hire Harbaugh.
If he’s determined to go pro, it still makes a ton of sense that Ross would want him to coach the Dolphins.
Edit: Armando Salguero echoing the same Harbaugh sentiment.
View: https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/1487877608318636032?s=20&t=8WfG-P0paRWYVLCtnq-ZOQ
Are we going full circle? When they fired Flores, my immediate assumption was it was to hire Harbaugh.
If he’s determined to go pro, it still makes a ton of sense that Ross would want him to coach the Dolphins.
Edit: Armando Salguero echoing the same Harbaugh sentiment.
View: https://twitter.com/ArmandoSalguero/status/1487877608318636032?s=20&t=8WfG-P0paRWYVLCtnq-ZOQ
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The Athletic’s Michigan beat reporter agreeing with Armando. Seems to be a bit of smoke there.
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Michigan sources believe Ross was being honest when he said he wouldn't take Jim from Michigan, and Ross wants Jim to stay in Ann Arbor. But if Jim is set on leaving, there's some speculation that Ross won't let JH go elsewhere (Minny most recently referenced landing spot), or Ross will offer JH the same financial package from any other NFL team to stay in Ann Arbor. JH really doesn't seem to be motivated by money, so I think it's Miami or Ann Arbor for him, with Ann Arbor a 65-35 favorite.
This is basically the Stephen Ross Loophole ™. He is a huge booster for Michigan and he was a huge part in getting Harbaugh to Michigan. He can’t just straight up take Harbaugh from Michigan to Miami.
But if they have legit interest from another party (Minnesota) and a package on the table for Harbaugh to stay at Michigan (they do) then Ross can say that he did everything he could to get Harbaugh to stay, but him coaching Miami is the next best thing to coaching Michigan.
It’s a bit of a dog and pony show so that no one gets their feelings hurt and a billionaire doesn’t just rob his alma mater of their head football coach.
If Harbaugh does go to Miami at the end of the day, Ross will cut a check to soothe everyone’s feelings and he’ll get the coach he’s been after for over a decade.
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This may be how you see it as a Dolphins fan, but this isn't how it will play out. I'll make a Red Sox analogy to explain what I mean.
When Johnny Damon went to the Yankees, he became public enemy number one. Not because he signed with the Yankees, but because he signed with them after making a public show of saying that he wouldn't do so even though he knew they'd offer him the most money.
It's the same thing with Ross. If he had kept his mouth shut, your scenario plays out exactly as you've outlined it. The problem is that he didn't keep his mouth shut, so if Harbaugh ends up in Miami, no amount of logic, reason or money is going to fix it. His name will forever be mud in Ann Arbor.
Ross knows this and I have a hard time believing that he'll sign Harbaugh because of it. However, we know that billionaires are capable of extreme self-delusion, so maybe he will.
Harbaugh had interest from the Raiders and has an interview with Minnesota. It seems more likely than not he is leaving Michigan regardless of what Stephen Ross does. It looked at first as if he was posturing to get a new deal from Michigan.
I do believe that Ross’s first preference was likely keeping Harbaugh at Michigan. He loves Michigan more than Miami. I don’t see Ross standing by idly as Minnesota signs the coach of his dreams just because he said he wouldn’t.
I also don’t know if Ross gets shunned in Michigan. College coaching offers a lot of things, but there are 32 NFL HC jobs on the planet and Harbaugh was on the doorstep of a Lombardi.
This is all very reasonable. Any yet, it will make no difference to anyone connected with Michigan if Ross ends up hiring Jim Harbaugh after promising not to.
I also get that you don't care, and you are correct (in a fan sense) not to do so, since that's not your concern. But it's a very real issue for Ross.
He’s a billionaire living in a bubble. Of course he will.
At the same time, he has donated hundreds of millions of dollars to Michigan because he’s an egomaniacal tool who wants people to love and admire him. When alums begin demanding that his name be stripped from the business school,* it will sting quite a bit.
*Yes, they will demand this. No, his name will not be removed from anything.
This can't possibly be true. He cares more about Michigan than the NFL team he owns?
Good for the Pats to have this clown in the division, I guess.
Really doesn’t seem that odd or clownish to me. Some people have tremendous loyalty to their Alma matters and he is the largest benefactor in UMichigan history. I think that’s a good thing and I wouldn’t criticize him or demean him for that. I am sure he cares about his businesses including the Dolphins and I’m sure he cares about Michigan.
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The #Texans are interviewing Brian Flores for their head coaching job today in Houston, per sources. The sides have spoken multiple times and Flores has a history with GM Nick Caserio. This is the first in-person interview.
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The #Texans are interviewing Brian Flores for their head coaching job today in Houston, per sources. The sides have spoken multiple times and Flores has a history with GM Nick Caserio. This is the first in-person interview.
I’m sure he cares about Miami. He’s sunk a ton of money into the Dolphins. Renovated the stadium on his own dime. Built a brand new training facility next to the stadium.
He loves Michigan like a second home. Some people have that type of relationship with the college they went to.
I think he’s being honest when he said he wants Jim Harbaugh to stay at Michigan, but if Harbaugh decides that he is leaving college to chase that Super Bowl he nearly won, there isn’t much Ross can do other than stand by and watch someone take his coach or bring his coach to his NFL franchise.
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No, it won't.
Yes, it will.
No one will demand anything that diminishes Ross's legacy in Ann Arbor over Harbaugh. The guy donated the entire business school. The same business school that's consistently rated among the country's elite.
I know Harbaugh had success with the 49ers, but I thought his tenure at Michigan was viewed as somewhat mixed or maybe even a little disappointing (yes I know he finally got by Ohio State this year but isn't he like 1-8 against them or something like that?). Am I wrong on that? I don't follow college football that closely. Why does Michigan so not want to lose him, and why would he be such a hot commodity for pro teams?
You are correct and the criticisms didn’t really makes sense.
edit: prior to Jim they were on a 4 year slide 11,8,7,5
Remove Covid year Jim wins 10,10,8,10,9,12
Michigan had a bad covid year. (2-4)
I think that the bolded is a big consideration. The coaches in the current candidate pool have largely enjoyed little success or are otherwise unproven (at the HC level).
You are saying that my impression of the criticisms against him are accurate, but that they were unfair or unwarranted and he's done better there than his critics would have you believe?
Funny you should ask ... the Raiders have a 5 p.m. press conference (Eastern time) scheduled for today.
Or Josh has time to change his mind ... or, I guess, lobby for the Michigan job
Josh made it to the presser - he's officially gone
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I just find it odd. Ross seems very concerned about upsetting U Mich people, but not at all about upsetting Dolphins fans.
Hope it works out well for Josh. He did a lot for the Patriots organization over the last 15 years - and despite any frustrations over play-calling I thought he did an excellent job with Mac this year.
I’m not thrilled that will have a new OC in year 2 for Mac but the playbook and calls should still be the same. I’m hoping for a BOB or Chad O’Shea to replace him.
I’m happy for Josh, and happy for us. I didn’t want him to follow BB, but really appreciate the work he put in here. I don’t k ow a ton about what Ziegler did day to day, but wish him well too. I see he has a John Carroll connection, so that makes sense.
I don't know how Michigan will feel about Ross/Harbaugh, but the reporting has been the exact same on that front from the day they fired Flores.
If Harbaugh wants to stay at Michigan, the Dolphins will not pursue him. If he's leaving no matter what, they would. Nothing has changed that should make Michigan alums feel like there is some sort of bait & switch going on.
If Harbaugh wants to stay at Michigan, the Dolphins will not pursue him. If he's leaving no matter what, they would. Nothing has changed that should make Michigan alums feel like there is some sort of bait & switch going on.
Harbaugh to Minnesota doesn't really make a ton of sense to me. This is a guy who has probably been asked by nearly two dozen teams about his availability the last 5 years. What exactly is the draw?
I know Dan "Don't Call Me Tomsula" Campbell is their coach, but it would be so much cooler for Harbaugh to go to the Lions. Locals could stomach him leaving the university. Historic franchise getting an elite coach for the first time in ... a half century? Yes, there's always the potential he would Pitino the situation. But there's at least hope and potential. Minnesota feels so flat by comparison.
I know Dan "Don't Call Me Tomsula" Campbell is their coach, but it would be so much cooler for Harbaugh to go to the Lions. Locals could stomach him leaving the university. Historic franchise getting an elite coach for the first time in ... a half century? Yes, there's always the potential he would Pitino the situation. But there's at least hope and potential. Minnesota feels so flat by comparison.
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This is a bold move. Something must have happened behind the scenes to risk his ability to find another head coaching job in the league. Is there another coach who sued a major team for bias, when being perceived to very likely get a head coaching job elsewhere?
Was coming to post. I’m saddened, but a good move for the Vikings. He’ll get a lot out of that team.
Really great fit IMO. Great combo of Cook and Jefferson and he can maximize Cousins.
Also think he would only go to an NFC team away from his brother.
It might be true that Harbaugh's interview with the Vikings was just a sham so that the Dolphins could scoop him up without Ross damaging his relationship with his alma mater, and that it all fell through with Flores's lawsuit.