2021 Dolphins: Tua Be or Not To Be?

Should Miami Trade for Deshaun Watson

  • Yes. Deshaun is a star. Take the known entity.

    Votes: 68 70.8%
  • No. Build around Tua and forge a stronger overall team.

    Votes: 28 29.2%

  • Total voters
    96
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rymflaherty

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It going to lie, my first thought when I saw the news was, that’s stupid, and I was a bit disappointed.

Thing is, I don’t think the people in charge are stupid, so I have to give the benefit of the doubt that they see it as an ingenious way to keep/promote both guys, allow them to emphasize their strengths and foster a collaborative environment. They also all have been working together, so they must think the arrangement will work.
So guess it’s wait and see and hope to hell they are right.

I think I’m also going to skew now toward optimism, for no other reasons than the fact that I went to the Dolphins Reddit page, and being entirely dismissive of the move would seem to align me with the morons.
No offense to anyone that can provide an actual negative argument (sure someone around here likely could), but everything there was rooted in wild assumptions of the relationships and responsibilities within an NFL coaching staff.
 

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Ha, I literally just saw this on Twitter. Passing on Hamilton or McDaniel is pretty surprising.

Godsey has experience as an OC. Studesville has experience as an assistant HC and run game coordinator. Where the confusion lies is who is pulling the trigger on game day and who is the voice in Tua’s ear on Sundays. Is it Godsey? Is it Studesville? Is it Charlie Frye?

We’ve seen NE famously not even name a coordinator on defense when Brian Flores was the “DC but not really the DC.”

It feels like Godsey will essentially be the passing game coordinator, Studesville will be the running game coordinator, and one of them, or maybe Frye, will call the plays on Sunday.
 

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Is there a different McDaniels that I do not know about? Not sure how they could have hired McDaniels since lateral moves are not really an allowed thing in the NFL.
Mike McDaniel. He was the running game coordinator for SF and was recently promoted to OC for them.
 

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I was messing around with the PFF mock draft simulator and took a shot at the Dolphins. Here's what I was able to do. They got a ransom from the Eagles to move from 3 to 6 and still got Sewell at 6, along with picking up another future 1st and 2nd in other trades. What do you think Dolphins fans?

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I was messing around with the PFF mock draft simulator and took a shot at the Dolphins. Here's what I was able to do. They got a ransom from the Eagles to move from 3 to 6 and still got Sewell at 6, along with picking up another future 1st and 2nd in other trades. What do you think Dolphins fans?

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The trade value with the Eagles is a home run. Sewell I would be fine with.

Barmore at 18 made me throw up in my mouth. I know he’s thought of highly, but unless he is the best player available by a mile, I can’t see Miami going that way.

Moore is fine and Javonte Williams seems like good value and I really like his fit for Miami. Everything else feels like a meh.

Pros- great trade value for maximizing the third overall pick. (Don’t bring it up in the QB Carousel thread. They’re sure Philly isn’t trading up.)

Cons-Miami’s biggest needs seems to get addressed on the periphery. Sewell would be a great pick, but I would much rather use 18 to get a skill position player. Najee, Etienne. Or a playmaking LB like JOK from Notre Dame.
 

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Just for ha-ha’s, I went and ran a PFF mock with a similar setup, but I traded for a 2nd this year and a 2nd next year.
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I found that a week or so ago. I didn’t rip the Eagles off that much....I just took the 1st and ran lol
Admittedly there was a lot of dart throwing here, as I don’t get wrapped up in the draft as I once did. A lot was just looking at position and the pff ranking, but here’s what mine wound up as...

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Also, if anyone has an explanation that would make me feel better, or excited about the Aaron Jones rumors...that would be appreciated.

The only scenarios that really seem logical to me are that he has no market and he’s signed for cheap, or the draft falls in a manner where it never makes sense to take a top back and signing Jones winds up a justifiable use of cap space.
 

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Also, if anyone has an explanation that would make me feel better, or excited about the Aaron Jones rumors...that would be appreciated.

The only scenarios that really seem logical to me are that he has no market and he’s signed for cheap, or the draft falls in a manner where it never makes sense to take a top back and signing Jones winds up a justifiable use of cap space.
I hate it. I would much, much rather take one in the draft. Either trade up into the end of round 1 or take in that falls to you in round 2.

Drafting a RB high is not a mistake. Paying one big dollars on a second contract absolutely is.

Jones is a lower mileage back considering he was a part time player his first two seasons, but I still want no part in paying a RB 12-13 million/year. I would guess, based on how Miami has structured their deals recently, a deal would basically be 2 years/24 million dollars with option years and non-guaranteed money on the back end.