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Cellar-Door

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View: https://twitter.com/MiamiHEAT/status/1491498573938270212


View: https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/1491501735642165251



Heat trade KZ Okpala to the Thunder for a 2026 2nd (worst of OKC/DAL/PHI),
More interestingly, the swapped their 2023 that they owe OKC to a protected 2025 that becomes unprotected in 2026.

You don't do that unless you think you have a deal you can make but need a 1st to make the deal.

Edit- rumors MIA wants PJ Washington and need the pick to be competitive for him
 

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Like fit of PJ Washington for Miami or Celts—-though suspect Celts won’t make that move now
 

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Lol, if you're not willing to trade Curry or Maxey... what are you doing? Thybulle has modest value at most... So you're saying... Simmons for Harden with very little more? BKN has no incentive to do that, because they know you'd do Simmons and Thybulle for Harden in the summer.
The other question is what is Maxey's role oh PHI going to be if Harden is holding the ball game?

Seems to me that is PHI really is trying to win this year the guys they want to keep are Thybulle and Green - after all, someone's gotta play defense on the perimeter - but what do I know?

Imagine if PHI doesn't get Harden a second time because of Maxey.
 

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The other question is what is Maxey's role oh PHI going to be if Harden is holding the ball game?

Seems to me that is PHI really is trying to win this year the guys they want to keep are Thybulle and Green - after all, someone's gotta play defense on the perimeter - but what do I know?

Imagine if PHI doesn't get Harden a second time because of Maxey.
Maybe the Nets are playing Morey/76ers, as revenge for tampering? Taking up Morey's time before the trade deadline, only to pull all Harden offers at the 11th hour. That's how I read it.

Ben Simmons sunning in California, until this summer is an absolutely horrible outcome for Philly and a great outcome for the Nets (& the rest of the EC contenders)
 

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The other question is what is Maxey's role oh PHI going to be if Harden is holding the ball game?

Seems to me that is PHI really is trying to win this year the guys they want to keep are Thybulle and Green - after all, someone's gotta play defense on the perimeter - but what do I know?

Imagine if PHI doesn't get Harden a second time because of Maxey.
Must .... Have...3.....STARZ!
 

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So in the end Divencenzo went out for Ibaka? That's less value than for Schroder (though, a much more acute positional need for Bucks)
 

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Would seem to suggest that that the Bucks are not bullish on Lopez returning in good shape this season.
 

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Wow, Bagley in Sacramento. I think that is a fine gamble by Detroit since they aren't giving up really anything.
 

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once you get past where Bagley was drafted and over whom.... I kinda like this trade for SAC. No place for Bagley next year, if Donte's shooting comes back to above league average levels he really helps them
 

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At least the Kings are trying to make their roster make sense around Sabonis.
 

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This is a tax reduction thing for the Clippers, right?
 

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At least the Kings are trying to make their roster make sense around Sabonis.
I think Lyles has been the best player this year in that entire deal? & they have a $2.6m team option on him next year.
 

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They need wings, so Hood could play. Also create a nice little $9.7M TPE


Edit- LOL Keith Smith says moving Ibaka saved $30M in actual money for the Clippers
They just traded for RoCo & Powell & aren't doing anything this year unless at least one of PG/Kawhi are back.

But yeah, $30m is nice.
 

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Probably a good trade for Spurs? I was hearing they were going to buy Thad out.
 

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Giving up a first for free agent to be Thad Young seems completely not smart. What am I missing?
Raptors save $ ($3.5m + I think they're in the tax) & they're getting back like #32 in the draft? & Eubanks may not be completely incompetent?

But yeah, seems meh.
 

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They just traded for RoCo & Powell & aren't doing anything this year unless at least one of PG/Kawhi are back.

But yeah, $30m is nice.
Steve needs the 30 mil, as his portfolio is down 1.5 billion today
 

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funny thing.

As of this morning the tax payments to all teams out of the tax were about 11.5M, 11M if BOS ducked under.
Have to think the Ibaka trade just shaved another million plus off.
 

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Giving up a first for free agent to be Thad Young seems completely not smart. What am I missing?
It’s a pretty bad draft, and if the Raptors make the playoffs the guy they’d be drafting is highly unlikely to be as good as Young. For the Raptors getting guys like Barnes postseason experience probably ranks higher than drafting another roleplayer.
 

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It’s a pretty bad draft, and if the Raptors make the playoffs the guy they’d be drafting is highly unlikely to be as good as Young. For the Raptors getting guys like Barnes postseason experience probably ranks higher than drafting another roleplayer.
Raptors are probably the best drafting team in the NBA too, so moving down 10 or 15 slots probably doesn’t radically change the type of player they’ll get.
 

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Raptors are probably the best drafting team in the NBA too, so moving down 10 or 15 slots probably doesn’t radically change the type of player they’ll get.
They have been able to find players in the 20-30 range. That is correct. Siakam (#27) OG (#23) Wright #20). I do wonder if picking 30+ is whole nother animal though
 

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Raptors are probably the best drafting team in the NBA too, so moving down 10 or 15 slots probably doesn’t radically change the type of player they’ll get.
Yeah, they’re good at turning up value. I’ve been pouring through game tape this year and I’ve been having trouble seeing anyone with above average upside, although I see a lot of guys that I think will have long careers. But I bet the Raptors still manage to find that guy in the early 2nd.
 

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They have been able to find players in the 20-30 range. That is correct. Siakam (#27) OG (#23) Wright #20). I do wonder if picking 30+ is whole nother animal though
they don't have a significant 2nd round pick in 10 years (Acy and that is dubious he wasn't very good and was traded in the DeRozan deal), Joey Graham is the closest they've come to a 2nd rounder providing value in the last 27 years.
 

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Not a good outcome for the Celtics, but fascinating from a straight basketball fan's perspective. I think Harden will still be a tremendous player the next few years so I think this is a great move for Philly. Nets get better too. This trade made too much sense not to happen. I sure do love an active trade deadline day.
 

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Can't wait for Embiid to get sick of Harden, but that Nets lineup is spicy. Kyrie, Curry, Simmons, KD, Drummond/Claxton. Good shooting around Simmons is exactly what he needed.
 

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All those "Morey has no leverage!" takes aged poorly.

Good deal for both teams, watching Embiid and Harden shoot 40 free throws in playoff games is going to be a nightmare. Most hilarious result of it would be the Nets coming up short in the playoffs and Kyrie and Durant publically blaming Simmons and this whole process starting over again.
 

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Morey deserves a lot of apologies today. People laughed that he wanted a top 25 player, and he ended up with a top 10 (?) guy. Unreal.
 

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All those "Morey has no leverage!" takes aged poorly.

Good deal for both teams, watching Embiid and Harden shoot 40 free throws in playoff games is going to be a nightmare. Most hilarious result of it would be the Nets coming up short in the playoffs and Kyrie and Durant publically blaming Simmons and this whole process starting over again.
Well, he didn't really until a malcontent opportunity came up. It could have gone a different way. But props to him on taking a gamble and winning.
 

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Can't wait for Embiid to get sick of Harden, but that Nets lineup is spicy. Kyrie, Curry, Simmons, KD, Drummond/Claxton. Good shooting around Simmons is exactly what he needed.
Running that offense through Simmons in the low post is going to be lethal.
 

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Well, he didn't really until a malcontent opportunity came up. It could have gone a different way. But props to him on taking a gamble and winning.
As others have said, malcontents asking out is a yearly occurrence in the NBA. I have no particular investment in Morey's reputation, but all the "He needs to trade Simmons for whatever he can get, letting him sit out will be a disaster, player empowerment" and all sorts of other smartest guy in the room bullshity takes were wrong. The people who spouted them can take their medicine now, it's fine.
 

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Well, he didn't really until a malcontent opportunity came up. It could have gone a different way. But props to him on taking a gamble and winning.
No, that was his gamble all along---something will develop. Betting on the opportunity map changing when you give yourself a long time to change is not so much luck as it is probability (though also not 'certainty')