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Ale Xander

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Would he be an upgrade over Grant?
Better rebounder and a mid-range gamer for sure and he'll get better refereeing than Grant, even if he's a corpse of his former self. I'd certainly trade Grant, Bol Bol, and PJ for him, if you're not counting $ and intangibles. Grant is kind of the current version of their ML Carr though . . .

But HRB watches a ton more bb than me so I am taking his word.
 
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HomeRunBaker

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The fact that we're piecing together who runs the team by forensic anecdotal accounting shows what a turd show that organization is.

Good for them that they're in LA and that means something to people, because it's hardly a Wharton case study on organizational behavior.
Imagine how hard Lakers fans are laughing at our last decade while they are raising another banner.
 

Jimbodandy

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Imagine how hard Lakers fans are laughing at our last decade while they are raising another banner.
Like I said, I'm sure that their fans appreciate the shit luck that comes with being the flagship franchise in the world's TV and Movie capital city. It's a great thing, if you're a Lakers fan. That doesn't change that the org is run by shitheads.

This suits me just fine, since they almost certainly would have capitalized on that advantage even more. Hell if they tank again this year, that could be four years of the best player on earth and one trip to the finals (and one ring). In Lebron's second stint with the Cavs, he went to the finals all four years (also one ring). The Cavs built a better team around him, and nobody wants to live in Cleveland.
 

Euclis20

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Like I said, I'm sure that their fans appreciate the shit luck that comes with being the flagship franchise in the world's TV and Movie capital city. It's a great thing, if you're a Lakers fan. That doesn't change that the org is run by shitheads.

This suits me just fine, since they almost certainly would have capitalized on that advantage even more. Hell if they tank again this year, that could be four years of the best player on earth and one trip to the finals (and one ring). In Lebron's second stint with the Cavs, he went to the finals all four years (also one ring). The Cavs built a better team around him, and nobody wants to live in Cleveland.
The Lakers have been run terribly for the last decade, but the Cavs really aren't any better. The Lakers are lucky because they are the "flagship franchise in the world's TV and Movie capital city," and the Cavs were equally lucky (at least with regards to LeBron and their 4 year run his second time around):

-They happened to have the best player of the last 20 years (at least) grow up in the area and want to come back after they completely wasted his first stint with the team.
-They got the #1 overall pick the year he was eligible, one of the biggest no-brainer picks in history.
-They got the #1 overall pick again in 2011 when Kyrie Irving was eligible, the consensus #1 pick that year.
-They got the #1 overall pick again in 2014, and were able to flip it for Kevin Love.

None of this luck is remotely repeatable (unlike the Lakers), but that doesn't change the fact that they were extremely lucky. They even got the #1 overall pick in 2013 and used it on Anthony Bennett, on the short list of biggest busts ever. The only skill they've shown in recent history is the ability to win draft lotteries (and be located close to Akron). They had LeBron for 11 years and got one title (and he was 2nd team all-nba by year 2, 1st team by year 3 and far and away the best player in the NBA for at least 6 of those years). This will likely be the first time in their last 14 non-Lebron seasons that they make the playoffs (and a full 20 years since their last non-Lebron playoff series victory). That's close to Kings level of incompetence.
 
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Deathofthebambino

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For all her bad decisions, one reason Jeannie also gets a lot of DotB, is that she got the best player of all time to sign there, and added another top 10 or so player, and it led to a title. You win a championship you get a lot of rope.
I definitely drank a lot tonight, but I'm still pretty sure I'm not giving it to Jeanie.

Maybe last Friday, but definitely not tonight.
 

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So here is a fun hypo.....

If the Wall/Westbrook trade happens, would you want the Celtics to be in on Russ after the buyout?
 

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From Russ' perspective, what are the most appealing options in terms of role, geography, etc. I believe he wants the rock and wants to play a lot---so situations where he is a secondary player to me just aren't realistic.

I'm not sure the Celtics fit that picture, but his relationship (or lack thereof) with Tatum and Brown likely is the key. I tend to think it's not worthwhile for Celts (he's a really odd fit, you'd almost want him to replicate the Houston role where he was offensively the center to a degree) but it'd be fun to see. And him pushing pace would help. That said, I would imagine Clippers being at top of his list, especially short-term as they have a real need for offense and it's perfect geographically. And I think they probably would be interested too.
 

mcpickl

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So here is a fun hypo.....

If the Wall/Westbrook trade happens, would you want the Celtics to be in on Russ after the buyout?
This would be hilarious after months of this board complaining Smart is a bad fit for this team because he can't shoot.
 

ElUno20

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From Russ' perspective, what are the most appealing options in terms of role, geography, etc. I believe he wants the rock and wants to play a lot---so situations where he is a secondary player to me just aren't realistic.

I'm not sure the Celtics fit that picture, but his relationship (or lack thereof) with Tatum and Brown likely is the key. I tend to think it's not worthwhile for Celts (he's a really odd fit, you'd almost want him to replicate the Houston role where he was offensively the center to a degree) but it'd be fun to see. And him pushing pace would help. That said, I would imagine Clippers being at top of his list, especially short-term as they have a real need for offense and it's perfect geographically. And I think they probably would be interested too.
Russ wont end up on the clipps for a couple of reasons. One, pg and Kawhi are probably done for the year and, more importantly, he feels snaked by Kawhi and PG over a couple years ago. And russ holds grudges
 

Kliq

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That is too bad; he was having a good season for Portland as the kind of big wing they desperately need.
 

Ale Xander

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No one tell Brad. I saw reports he was in on Theis. I'm afraid he'll try to get all of his old players back.
I wouldn’t mind Rozier (expendable with Lamelo’s emergence?) and/or Hayward coming back. Unfortunately they make too much
 

jon abbey

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They are also open to voiding their contracts and pretending they never existed.
 

Cellar-Door

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They are also open to voiding their contracts and pretending they never existed.
Not Burks, that's a good contract. 9.5 this year, 10 next and a 10.5 team option, and there is a good case he's the second or third best player on the Knicks. He has actual positive value, unlike Fournier.
 

jon abbey

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Not Burks, that's a good contract. 9.5 this year, 10 next and a 10.5 team option, and there is a good case he's the second or third best player on the Knicks. He has actual positive value, unlike Fournier.
You are welcome to him, I’d like to see Grimes and McBride get his minutes.
 

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It's a shame that Simmons will never again play basketball in the NBA (at least for the length of his current contract).
 

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That trade would also have to include Gallo to make salaries match. But yeah, lol 3 1sts.
 

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Ugh. Didn't need a Rad Sox Fan prognosis for that one — his left knee buckled inward at a hideous angle with his foot planted. Seems like a super cool dude; totally sucks for him with free agency impending. Hope he recovers 100%. His elite three ball, passing, and hoops IQ will help some team, even at age 35.

As for the Jazz: while he's not quite as critical to them as he was at his peak 2-3 years ago. it's still a huge loss for them. Gotta think they're toast as a title contender, if they weren't already.
 

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Ugh. Didn't need a Rad Sox Fan prognosis for that one — his left knee buckled inward at a hideous angle with his foot planted. Seems like a super cool dude; totally sucks for him with free agency impending. Hope he recovers 100%. His elite three ball, passing, and hoops IQ will help some team, even at age 35.

As for the Jazz: while he's not quite as critical to them as he was at his peak 2-3 years ago. it's still a huge loss for them. Gotta think they're toast as a title contender, if they weren't already.
Yeah that was ugly and obvious. As far as contention though he isn’t much of a factor anymore and wasn’t playing crunch time minutes when the team was healthy. The Jazz go as far as Gobert and Mitchell, in that order, take them. After them, they need Clarkson or Conley to catch fire.
 

Cesar Crespo

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Ugh. Didn't need a Rad Sox Fan prognosis for that one — his left knee buckled inward at a hideous angle with his foot planted. Seems like a super cool dude; totally sucks for him with free agency impending. Hope he recovers 100%. His elite three ball, passing, and hoops IQ will help some team, even at age 35.

As for the Jazz: while he's not quite as critical to them as he was at his peak 2-3 years ago. it's still a huge loss for them. Gotta think they're toast as a title contender, if they weren't already.
He may play again but it was effectively a career ending injury. Maybe he will make a comeback but he's pretty old to do so.
 

Cellar-Door

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Ugh. Didn't need a Rad Sox Fan prognosis for that one — his left knee buckled inward at a hideous angle with his foot planted. Seems like a super cool dude; totally sucks for him with free agency impending. Hope he recovers 100%. His elite three ball, passing, and hoops IQ will help some team, even at age 35.

As for the Jazz: while he's not quite as critical to them as he was at his peak 2-3 years ago. it's still a huge loss for them. Gotta think they're toast as a title contender, if they weren't already.
It's a decent loss, but he was honestly the most likely guy to get traded, now he probably still does. Same as Rubio really. Trade a guy out for the year as the salary fill with pick/youth, team getting him never makes him report
 

HomeRunBaker

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I assume he was critical of ownership or something and pissed them off, but good lord what a bad PR move. It's JERRY WEST!!
Ego and pettiness can be traits of those who reach great heights. Lakers pull the logo’s season tickets, Pitino moves Auerbach’s office to the basement without a job title, etc etc.
 

ElUno20

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In the lakers defense, he works for the clippers and has had no issue talking shit about the lakers over the years. Really petty but I'm guessing something he said recently set this off.
 

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In the lakers defense, he works for the clippers and has had no issue talking shit about the lakers over the years. Really petty but I'm guessing something he said recently set this off.
I'm Team West, but this is kind of true. While I agree with West (and it's stupid the Busses didn't just put him in charge of the Lakers years ago), I guess if I'm in the Lakers FO I'm kind of like ..."he publicly disses us to one and all in public and in private as dysfunctional losers, and we're supposed to keep giving him season tickets, too?"
 

Kliq

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This is a gross simplification of history; but Jerry West BUILT the Los Angeles Lakers. The only reason Buss, Pelinka, etc. have one of the most marketable franchises in pro sports is because of Jerry West. You can't fuck with a guy like that unless he is a total embarrassment and a major PR nightmare (like, if he was saying anti-semitic stuff or something). Getting upset that he is (rightfully) ripping your performance is just something you have to deal with.
 

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You can't fuck with a guy like that unless he is a total embarrassment and a major PR nightmare (like, if he was saying anti-semitic stuff or something). Getting upset that he is (rightfully) ripping your performance is just something you have to deal with.
But it appears they can fuck with him. Has there been outrageous blowback from this? Seems like it has already blown over, IMO
 

ElUno20

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This is a gross simplification of history; but Jerry West BUILT the Los Angeles Lakers. The only reason Buss, Pelinka, etc. have one of the most marketable franchises in pro sports is because of Jerry West. You can't fuck with a guy like that unless he is a total embarrassment and a major PR nightmare (like, if he was saying anti-semitic stuff or something). Getting upset that he is (rightfully) ripping your performance is just something you have to deal with.
I dont think that's a gross simplification at all