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jmcc5400

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Hawks up 15 at the half despite KD’s 26. Kyrie had a rough half (5-16 from the field) and the Hawks lived at the line.
 

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KD had 44 points on 21 shots through 3 quarters and BKN was still down 7.
Guess we can get a good idea of how they could lose a play-in even if KD is amazing.
 

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KD had 44 points on 21 shots through 3 quarters and BKN was still down 7.
Guess we can get a good idea of how they could lose a play-in even if KD is amazing.
Durant and Kyrie have both been playing really well over the past few weeks and the Nets are not exactly blowing people away. Atlanta and Charlotte are teams that can both really pile up the points and win shootouts.
 

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Durant and Kyrie have both been playing really well over the past few weeks and the Nets are not exactly blowing people away. Atlanta and Charlotte are teams that can both really pile up the points and win shootouts.
I felt Atlanta would win tonight….but it’s still up for grabs. Charlotte was a bad loss and they had the Bucks game in hand. The Nets will have nobody to blame but themselves as Cleveland expectedly collapsed being crippled with injuries and the Bulls may very well lose out and still hang on for the 6 seed.
 

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Trae Young misses two from the line with the Hawks starting to leak oil.
 

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Kyrie commits his 6th, but luckily on review they (correctly) see the shot clock had expired first.

Nets within 1
 

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Wow the officials all screwed that up. The shot clock operator and then the game official in not allowing the shot to play out then review. What a product!!!!
 

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These Nets/Lakers rotations 3-10 are..... something to behold. Yikes.

I'm no Simmons fan but almost any version of him would be some kind of boost.

Maybe Nash should suit up?
 

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In the Nets' defense, their 3rd best player (Curry) is out, as is Dragic.
Dragic is basically replacement level at this point, and while losing Curry hurts (he's shooting almost 48% from 3 and scoring 15 ppg in Brooklyn), their problem isn't scoring, it's defense. They were 17-37 from 3 today (45.9%), it's hard to say with a straight face that they really needed another 6'2 sharpshooter. Their defense is straight garbage, that's the problem. They need Simmons.
 

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Dragic is basically replacement level at this point, and while losing Curry hurts (he's shooting almost 48% from 3 and scoring 15 ppg in Brooklyn), their problem isn't scoring, it's defense. They were 17-37 from 3 today (45.9%), it's hard to say with a straight face that they really needed another 6'2 sharpshooter. Their defense is straight garbage, that's the problem. They need Simmons.
They don't have any 3&D shooting wings. Their best offensive players outside of KD (Kyrie, Mills, Curry) are all small guards. Bruce Brown is a poor shooter; everyone else is well below playoff-rotation ability. Losing Joe Harris hurts because he at least has traditional wing size and can shoot.
 

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Durant and Kyrie combine for 86, the rest of the team combines for 29, no one else reaches double digits.
 

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While probably true, Seth Curry and a washed up Dragic being #3 and #4 is still pretty gross.
oh Dragic definitely isn't 4, he's just another body to put on Trae who is probably less toast than Patty, and he's an extra scorer.

Their wings/bigs are a mess, and the roster isn't great, but Curry is legit good.
 

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I've been thinking this more and more, especially with Durant and LeBron both playing at extremely high levels for mediocre teams. With so much three point shooting and scoring being up across the league; the one super-dominant player that can ensure success regardless of supporting casts seems kind of outdated. Durant or LeBron can score 40, 50, 55 points, but their opponents can easily counter that with basically slightly above average three point shooting.

Perhaps in the playoffs having that one incredible scorer makes a bigger difference, but it feels less important in today's NBA than in prior incarnations.
 

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I've been thinking this more and more, especially with Durant and LeBron both playing at extremely high levels for mediocre teams. With so much three point shooting and scoring being up across the league; the one super-dominant player that can ensure success regardless of supporting casts seems kind of outdated. Durant or LeBron can score 40, 50, 55 points, but their opponents can easily counter that with basically slightly above average three point shooting.

Perhaps in the playoffs having that one incredible scorer makes a bigger difference, but it feels less important in today's NBA than in prior incarnations.
Yeah, if your defense is bad, your incredible scorer is getting ~50% looks, and the other team is getting a ton of 3s and layups. It's hard to make that math work often enough, as we're seeing with Brooklyn since Kyrie and KD came back.
 

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I've been thinking this more and more, especially with Durant and LeBron both playing at extremely high levels for mediocre teams. With so much three point shooting and scoring being up across the league; the one super-dominant player that can ensure success regardless of supporting casts seems kind of outdated. Durant or LeBron can score 40, 50, 55 points, but their opponents can easily counter that with basically slightly above average three point shooting.

Perhaps in the playoffs having that one incredible scorer makes a bigger difference, but it feels less important in today's NBA than in prior incarnations.
I think it’s more likely that Lebron was always the exception to the rule. Even KD never really carried a team very far by himself. Giannis is maybe as close to it at the moment and his supporting cast is still strong. Lebron is putting up big numbers, but his defense has suffered as a result, so his overall impact on a game is way less than what it was in his prime.
 

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This discussion is to me why Jokic is the clear MVP this year, his supporting cast is awful and they're still 46-32.
 

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This discussion is to me why Jokic is the clear MVP this year, his supporting cast is awful and they're still 46-32.
Yeah. I think people are subconsciously thinking Murray and Porter are playing. It'll be interesting if both are back before the playoffs. It will be a completely different team with either one of them, never mind both.
 

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This discussion is to me why Jokic is the clear MVP this year, his supporting cast is awful and they're still 46-32.
Is Jokic's supporting cast clearly worse than Luka's? I feel like most of the MVP discussion is still stuck in the early part of the year when the Mavs were stuck in the back half of the playoff standings, Luka was overweight and not playing super great, and we all still thought that Porzingis was an all-star level player. They're two games ahead of Denver, Luka is averaging 28/9/9, and the Mavs second best player is probably Dinwiddie, an oft-injured inefficient combo guard who is a lousy defender.
 

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Beasley's last 25 games: 22.3 mpg, .443/.457/.909, 12.3 points, 2.9 boards, 1.3 assists. 86/188 from 3. 7.5 3PA/G in 22.3 minutes.
 

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Is Jokic's supporting cast clearly worse than Luka's? I feel like most of the MVP discussion is still stuck in the early part of the year when the Mavs were stuck in the back half of the playoff standings, Luka was overweight and not playing super great, and we all still thought that Porzingis was an all-star level player. They're two games ahead of Denver, Luka is averaging 28/9/9, and the Mavs second best player is probably Dinwiddie, an oft-injured inefficient combo guard who is a lousy defender.
Mavs with Luka +1.9 pts per 100
Mavs without Luka +3.7
Luka net -1.9

Nuggets with Jokic +8.0
Nuggets without Jokic -7.3
Jokic net +15.3
 

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Mavs with Luka +1.9 pts per 100
Mavs without Luka +3.7
Luka net -1.9

Nuggets with Jokic +8.0
Nuggets without Jokic -7.3
Jokic net +15.3
Well, that's a pretty good answer. I think his efficiency and defense keep him out of the top 3 in MVP voting, but Luka has as good a chance as anyone to finish 4th.
 

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Info during the Mavs-Bucks game (Dallas about to win it , up 8 with 40 sec to go):

Games with 30+ points and 15+ assists this season:
Luca Doncic = 3
Rest of the NBA = 3
 

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Is Jokic's supporting cast clearly worse than Luka's? I feel like most of the MVP discussion is still stuck in the early part of the year when the Mavs were stuck in the back half of the playoff standings, Luka was overweight and not playing super great, and we all still thought that Porzingis was an all-star level player. They're two games ahead of Denver, Luka is averaging 28/9/9, and the Mavs second best player is probably Dinwiddie, an oft-injured inefficient combo guard who is a lousy defender.
Jeff Green (Flotsam) and Austin Rivers (Jetsam) are fifth and sixth on the team in minutes.

While it's true Luka does not have a second star next to him, the Mavs roster has several rotation caliber NBA players: Brunson, Dinwiddie, Finney-Smith, Powell, Kleber, Hardaway, Bullock.
 

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Jeff Green (Flotsam) and Austin Rivers (Jetsam) are fifth and sixth on the team in minutes.

While it's true Luka does not have a second star next to him, the Mavs roster has several rotation caliber NBA players: Brunson, Dinwiddie, Finney-Smith, Powell, Kleber, Hardaway, Bullock.
Yeah, add a 2nd star to the Mavs and they have a complete team with a deep roster.
 

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A lot of water carrying for Anthony Davis GUTTING out a game.
He deserves every bit of it. It takes a lot of courage to put on a Lakers uniform on national television for a couple of hours, considering their entire season has been an embarrassment and they have saved the absolute worst for last (6 straight losses now with the season on the line).
 

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Our old friend Moses Brown running around like an exuberant puppy against the Sixers and Embiid.