2021-2022 Bruins Season Thread

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So, that's great.

What selling options do they have? There is some solid top-end talent, but are we really prepared to ship away Bergeron, Marchand, Pasta, et al?


Honestly I'd prefer they can Sweeney and bring someone in who is ready for a rebuild if they decide to be sellers. I do not trust Sweeney to deal us out of this, and I think the team is about in the worst possible place to be -mediocre.
 

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I absolutely do not want this current management team selling Pastrnak or Marchand. They would probably sell them both for 6 more third liners.
 

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Selling is moot. They literally have nothing to sell. The UFA's are Bergeron, Lazar and Blidh. RFA's are Kuhlman and Zboril. What's the best they can do, a 6th for Lazar? Bergeron would get them something but ther's no chance they even consider it.

They'll power on through the year and see what happens. Heavy lifting probably comes after the year or after next season.
 
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I'm aligned. No need to be hasty, get through the year and take the summer to regroup.

Problem is, there hasn't been a clear plan from this front office yet. It's basically kicking the can down the road. I'm disheartened that we could see this coming two years ago.
 

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The plan has been to go all in and maximize the Bergeron-Marchand-Rask window. That basically slammed shut last year and now they're in limbo.
 

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I'm aligned. No need to be hasty, get through the year and take the summer to regroup.

Problem is, there hasn't been a clear plan from this front office yet. It's basically kicking the can down the road. I'm disheartened that we could see this coming two years ago.

I think the direction they chose made a ton of sense. They had a strong group of core players that were aging (krejci, bergeron, Marchand, Rask) and they hit massive home runs getting 2 more superstars in the draft to supplement that core in McAvoy and Pasta. They chose to forego a retool in order to fill in around the edges and make a championship contender to try to win another cup before Krejci, Bergeron and Rask aged out. I think that 19/20 team was the team. Bergeron has held up so well that I think they felt like they had enough to give it one more shot and they did that. They made the decision to trade the 22,23,24 seasons to try to win one between 17 and 21. Maybe it wasn't an overt decision, but their actions make me think it was part of the calculation. I actually think it was the right decision. The problem is that the execution of that plan has been poor to awful and it may have accelerated the downturn to start a year or 2 early.

I think we have to sit through this year and hope for the best. They will still likely make the playoffs and who knows, maybe they go on a run. But the darkness is coming. My hope is that it happens quickly and they get some good luck. Maybe Jordan Harris is their Adam Fox and refuses to sign with the habs this offseason because he wants to play for the home town team and it accelerates this team back to prominence. The longer it takes, the older Pasta and McAvoy get, the less likely they match up with the next great Bruins core.

I also don't think this administration is the right group of people to manage that process.
 

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Totally agree that they (rightly) decided to go all-in on this core with McAvoy and Pastrnak emerging.

I don't know that I'd say the execution of the "Win now between '17-'21" mindset was poorly executed - they're a bounce in the first period of '19 G7 (or a match fixing level of missed call in '19 G5) from another Cup. They gave up a Donato and 2nd / 3rd round picks for Coyle and Johansson to load that roster up. They gave up Bjork and 2nd / 3rd round picks for Hall and Reilly and signed both long-term.

Yes, this past offseason's use of cap space has poor early returns - Forbort in particular is a complete headscratcher - but if the result of one game changes in '19 this FO has another 5 years of rope and is likely trusted with a rebuild. I don't know if they should be in light of the past couple of offseasons and the inability to replace Krejci and/or get another top-4 D to supplement McAvoy / Grzelcyk / Carlo for the current push, but I don't think this has necessarily been the result of a poorly-executed plan; more a bunch of papercuts that have gone deeper than expected.
 

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Totally agree that they (rightly) decided to go all-in on this core with McAvoy and Pastrnak emerging.

I don't know that I'd say the execution of the "Win now between '17-'21" mindset was poorly executed - they're a bounce in the first period of '19 G7 (or a match fixing level of missed call in '19 G5) from another Cup. They gave up a Donato and 2nd / 3rd round picks for Coyle and Johansson to load that roster up. They gave up Bjork and 2nd / 3rd round picks for Hall and Reilly and signed both long-term.

Yes, this past offseason's use of cap space has poor early returns - Forbort in particular is a complete headscratcher - but if the result of one game changes in '19 this FO has another 5 years of rope and is likely trusted with a rebuild. I don't know if they should be in light of the past couple of offseasons and the inability to replace Krejci and/or get another top-4 D to supplement McAvoy / Grzelcyk / Carlo for the current push, but I don't think this has necessarily been the result of a poorly-executed plan; more a bunch of papercuts that have gone deeper than expected.
Ya I don't mean they've failed at everything they've done, and the results have been pretty good. Should have won the cup in 19, as you said. The 19-20 pre covid team was the best team in the league. Coyle and Hall were clear wins. Craig Smith was a very shrewd signing as well. I just think to maximize that opportunity they needed to do a better job around the fringes of the roster and they've spent a lot of money in shitty ways and thats rearing its head now that they cant lean on Bergeron/Krejci down the middle and Rask in the net. John Moore, Chris Wagner, Forbort, Foligno, Heinen for Ritchie. Kevan Miller's contract last year. The plan with the left side of the D last year was a mess. There's been a lot of strategically "ugh" moves they've made in the last few years that have helped us get to where we are today. There's still time for the UFA signings this past offseason to bear fruit but there isn't much in their recent history that tells us thats coming, unfortunately. I think a more adept front office does a better job with that $10ish million and has a better roster.
 

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Definitely agree - you can survive with $4m in cap waste between Wagner and Moore or something. Compounding that with Forbort, Foligno, and Haula is death.
 

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Senyshyn requests a trade.

“I just feel like I need a fresh start. With all of the backlash with the media, considering where I was drafted and everything going on there, it’s just been a lot emotionally. I feel as though a fresh start is best,’’ Senyshyn said.
“I’m not really being utilized in (the Boston) organization. I’m not being used at all. I feel as though it’s better for them to get some return and for me to get a fresh start.’’
 

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He’s right about all of it. He has had some bad injury luck coming up the last couple years. He did get waived in the preseason though, and no one took a shot at him. That said he’s played well this year by all accounts and plays in all situations for providence. Given the bruins are playing less than replacement level players at RW, maybe give him a shot?
 

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Yeah leaning more towards kenney's evaluation... Senyshyn's last 80 games in the AHL have him as a ~20 goal guy. Better pace this year in a small sample size, but at this point he's no Brandon Bochenski.

He's on $200k in the AHL, 25 year old RFA at the end of the year... probably sees this as his best chance at getting a callup. Good luck to him, I imagine it sucks to be the guy that flames out when you have Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Eriksson Ek, Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier etc going after you. Extremely depressing to see that Carlo in round 2 (to go along with 11 first rounders) has more career NHL games than Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn combined.
 

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Yeah leaning more towards kenney's evaluation... Senyshyn's last 80 games in the AHL have him as a ~20 goal guy. Better pace this year in a small sample size, but at this point he's no Brandon Bochenski.

He's on $200k in the AHL, 25 year old RFA at the end of the year... probably sees this as his best chance at getting a callup. Good luck to him, I imagine it sucks to be the guy that flames out when you have Barzal, Connor, Chabot, Eriksson Ek, Boeser, Konecny, Beauvillier etc going after you. Extremely depressing to see that Carlo in round 2 (to go along with 11 first rounders) has more career NHL games than Zboril, DeBrusk, and Senyshyn combined.
Normally I would agree with Kenney, but to have two young players publicly demand trades like this leads me to believe that the agents think these guys suck at player development.

The whole operation is rotten. Honest question, if Neely & Sweeney got canned tomorrow, would they get hired anywhere else in the NHL in similar roles?
 

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Normally I would agree with Kenney, but to have two young players publicly demand trades like this leads me to believe that the agents think these guys suck at player development.

The whole operation is rotten. Honest question, if Neely & Sweeney got canned tomorrow, would they get hired anywhere else in the NHL in similar roles?
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Edit: the question makes me think of this great NHL meme:

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Normally I would agree with Kenney, but to have two young players publicly demand trades like this leads me to believe that the agents think these guys suck at player development.

The whole operation is rotten. Honest question, if Neely & Sweeney got canned tomorrow, would they get hired anywhere else in the NHL in similar roles?
I just view it more like me requesting a trade from my beer league team. Sure I can do it but does it really matter if nobody cares? I’m more of a “talent rises” guy though so my bias is certainly showing.
 

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Normally I would agree with Kenney, but to have two young players publicly demand trades like this leads me to believe that the agents think these guys suck at player development.

The whole operation is rotten. Honest question, if Neely & Sweeney got canned tomorrow, would they get hired anywhere else in the NHL in similar roles?
Just a thought, but maybe the players stink? There seems to be a correlation between under performing players and the players requesting trades. The, far more than 2, young players who actually end up being good don’t seem to have any problems. Funny how that works.

They called up Senyshyn twice in the regular season where he was given a legitimate chance to stick. Both times he immediately got hurt. Maybe that’s just bad luck, but the team can’t sit around forever and wait. They even gave him a 3rd chance last season after he got healthy. He didn’t do anything to deserve hanging around. They moved on to other alternatives. He’s been mediocre in the AHL. He’s been waived at least once and every team in the NHL didn’t think he was worth picking free of charge. The Bruins don’t seem alone in that he isn’t an NHL player. Good luck with the trade request, Zach.
 

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They either pick the wrong guys, or they screw up the development. Either way, the organization needs a management change.
 

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When I played youth hockey years ago I saw a hockey puck that had this big-ass chip missing from it, and I mean BIG ASS. In my wildest dreams the Bruins would get a hand pencil-sketched drawing of that puck in return for Zach Senyshyn. IOW, "Fuck you and your sub-par AHL talent, Zach Senyshyn -- please send in return Thomas Chabot or Matthew Barzal or even a two-good-kneed Jakub Zboril. See you at the Kitchener Stop N Shop."
 

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I dont think Senyshyn has any trade value but I think its a mistake to say he's been mediocre in the AHL recently. He's not a game breaker but from all accounts, he's been one of the best players on the team the last 2 seasons. He has 15 goals in his last 39 games (this season and last) and plays in all situations. I dont think its fair to say that there isn't room to give this guy a shot at playing on the right. It's the biggest hole in this team and the guys they rotate in the bottom 6 at RW are Kuhlman, Foligno and Lazar. All are bad. I'd frankly rather be playing Steen and Senyshyn in those spots than any of those guys. If we can't find room for players with some upside on a bottom 6 filled with empty nothing players, then I do think something is wrong.

I don't think we get more than 8-10 goals out of this kid in an 82 game season, but he's not wrong to feel like worse players are getting chances this season and that he isn't in the Bruins plans. It's too bad they didn't pick this kid with the JFK pick instead. I bet he's in the NHL playing a decent bottom 6 RW in that timeline.
 

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They either pick the wrong guys, or they screw up the development. Either way, the organization needs a management change.
Are there actual examples of development they've screwed up, or are we just lobbing that one out there? Let's take a look at the 2 disgruntled employees. DeBrusk spent a year in teh AHL, then was called up. He had 2 good seasons to start his career. He started off year 3 well before the wheels fell off pre-pandemic and he's never recovered. What could the team do differently here? They've kept him in the NHL. By and large he's played with quality linemates. His primary centers have been David Krejci and Charlie Coyle. They kept running him out with one of those two over and over again. Eventually his lack of production became untenable and they looked for an alternative (Hall). You can quibble a bit with Bruce's harshness on DeBrusk and maybe a little usage early on this season, but I don't know how you can hold up DeBrusk as an organizational developmental failure. He's had every opportunity, at some point he just has to produce. He has to give them a reason to increase his ice time, put him on teh power play, etc. Jacke's done none of that.

Senyshyn spent two full seasons in the AHL. At the end of the second season, he got a thank you call up for the last two games in the regular season while the Bruins were resting players. He spent the playoff run with the club as a member of the Black Aces. He started the next year in Providence. He was called up in early November and given an opportunity to stick and promptly got hurt in his 4th game. He started last year in Providence, got called up on 3/11 and, again, got hurt in his first game. He returned from injury on 3/27 and played in 6 consecutive games registering 0 points and 6 shots on goal. Then the deadline came and they added Hall and Lazar, which sent him back to Providence and he hasn't been back since, with the exception of the final game of the year when they were resting everyone. Again, what should they do differently? He was given 3 opportunities to stick on the NHL roster and either got hurt or failed to make an impression. Maybe the injuries are bad luck, but what is the team supposed to do? Sit and wait and try again when he's healthy? They did that on the last injury and he failed to make an impression. Maybe he's a little chaffed that Steen has passed him on the depth chart and seems to be first up when they need a winger but Steen's been a better player. This is the most laughable trade request I've ever heard. He's been waived twice in his career (last January and this October) and both times he went unclaimed. 31 other teams have had the opportunity to pick him up twice for free and said no thanks. Now, "I get a fresh start, and the organization can get something for me" Haha. What are they going to get, Ferm's broken puck?

As for the "they pick the wrong players" part of your comment, I disagree. They fucked up 2015. We know it, they know. It was almost 7 years ago at this point. t is what it is. Since then they've picked in the late 20's every year and have traded a ton of high picks for NHL help. I submit the farm system problem is due to those factors, not that they can't pick players. In 2016 they drafted McAvoy, Frederic, Ryan Lindgren who have become NHL regulars. Maybe Steen becomes one too. In 2017, they got Vaakanainen, Studnicka and Swayman. Jury's out on the first two but over the two years that's a pretty good draft haul. It is too early to pass judgement on the 2018 and up drafts. There's also this perception that they suck at drafting so literally every pick they make people kill them. If they pick someone ranked around their draft slot by the draft guru's (let's say Beecher or Vaakanainen) then the reaction is "Typical Bruins, going with the underwhelming safe pick." If they take someone off the board of the draft guru's (Lohrei) it's "there goes the dumbass Bruins going way off the board." I tend to think they're better than others at selecting players, they just don't have high enough picks to find difference makers, and they don't have enough picks to go with a volume approach.

There are a lot of valid reasons to want to move on from Sweeney/Neely (still not sure how much I link both of them together), but for me, draft and development is far down the list.
 

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Senyshyn has done nothing so far in the chances he's received at the NHL level, and he has received several. Sometimes guys bust out. And, to be fair to him, he's probably got one more chance, and it may very well be best for him to do that with another organization. The development system cannot develop what isn't there.

DeBrusk's struggles have nothing to do with player development, as he was already an NHL'er. His career arc is certainly disappointing, but by no means unique. Some players just cannot repeat their early career success no matter how much they try. Maybe Cassidy is not using him properly, but the coach is also under pressure to win now.

If Sweeney were to be fired today, he would have plenty of opportunity to get another front office job in the NHL. The recent visit to the Stanley Cup Finals and their regular season record the following year give him, all occurring after he took over a team that missed the playoffs in successive seasons, give him a lot of credibility among NHL owners. There is an issue now that the team is aging, but that is not his fault, and apart from trading Bergeron and Marchand this offseason, would have been almost impossible to fix. It's also not Sweeney's fault that Zboril tore an ACL or the team had no players in Long Island before the CoVid break.

As for Neely, I agree that he sucks, but he's not going anywhere until he retires. And if the Jacobs were at all interested in selling, the B's would have been part of FSG by now.
 

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Getting back to this season, I see no reason to punt THIS year.

Are there assets that they may lose that they’d want to trade first? I don’t see it. If push comes to shove, give Bergeron, Marchand, Pasta, Hall, McAvoy and Rask 1 last ride this March and on. You never know, I wouldn’t want to be the #1 or 2 seed to draw them if they squeak out a playoff spot.

However…

If they don’t make the playoffs? They need to have a conversation with Bergeron about his future and seriously consider a full rebuild:

-trade Marchand for a 1st and prospect
-trade Pasta & some “veterans” (forbort etc) for a 1st and top center prospect
-trade either Hall or Coyle depending on return
-don’t bring back Rask- Swayman & Ulmark as the goalies next coupe years
-seriously look at trading every last piece of value so that in 23’-24’ they have 3-4 young players to pair with McAvoy
 

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Getting back to this season, I see no reason to punt THIS year.

Are there assets that they may lose that they’d want to trade first? I don’t see it. If push comes to shove, give Bergeron, Marchand, Pasta, Hall, McAvoy and Rask 1 last ride this March and on. You never know, I wouldn’t want to be the #1 or 2 seed to draw them if they squeak out a playoff spot.

However…

If they don’t make the playoffs? They need to have a conversation with Bergeron about his future and seriously consider a full rebuild:

-trade Marchand for a 1st and prospect
-trade Pasta & some “veterans” (forbort etc) for a 1st and top center prospect
-trade either Hall or Coyle depending on return
-don’t bring back Rask- Swayman & Ulmark as the goalies next coupe years
-seriously look at trading every last piece of value so that in 23’-24’ they have 3-4 young players to pair with McAvoy
I’ll take the hardest of hard passes on most of that. Trading Marchand, Bergeron and Pasta is condemning them to years and years of mediocrity (Or worse) I don’t have the confidence they’d identify the right prospects and most draft picks out side of the top 5-6 are far from guarantees. That’s not a rebuild, it’s setting your franchise on fire. You don’t only lose their skills on the ice but you destroy the culture they have helped foster. You’re counting on a one year rebuild with the team on the upswing after that. If you’re lucky you might end up like the Rangers, but you’re more likely to end up with a 6 year run like the Red Wings or the 96-06 Bruins, which I don’t think any remembers fondly. Their aren’t good options, but they can be competitive the next few seasons. Before I’d do anything with the players, I’d make a change at the GM level and work on the player dev model and bottom half roster managemen.
 

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I’ll take the hardest of hard passes on most of that. Trading Marchand, Bergeron and Pasta is condemning them to years and years of mediocrity (Or worse) I don’t have the confidence they’d identify the right prospects and most draft picks out side of the top 5-6 are far from guarantees. That’s not a rebuild, it’s setting your franchise on fire. You don’t only lose their skills on the ice but you destroy the culture they have helped foster. You’re counting on a one year rebuild with the team on the upswing after that. If you’re lucky you might end up like the Rangers, but you’re more likely to end up with a 6 year run like the Red Wings or the 96-06 Bruins, which I don’t think any remembers fondly. Their aren’t good options, but they can be competitive the next few seasons. Before I’d do anything with the players, I’d make a change at the GM level and work on the player dev model and bottom half roster managemen.
I agree with this. The roster isn't a burn it down roster even if you decide to rebuild because 2 of the 4 best players are 25 and 24 (happy birthday charlie). I also think there is some real value in the locker room culture this team has fostered. I disagree sometimes with the moves Cassidy makes tinkering with the roster and the type of players he favors, and Sweeney is so conservative it drives me crazy, but the culture here is a top 5% in the league and that does matter. Burning it to the studs would maybe get them back to contention a year or two earlier if they get the right return on something, but good players that don't play well together is a shit team.

There is a ton of work to do in the next 5 years and I question openly whether this coach and organization are able to draft and develop the kind of players they will need to ascend to the top of the league again over that time, but selling off guys like Pasta and Marchand is not the way.
 

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I’ll take the hardest of hard passes on most of that. Trading Marchand, Bergeron and Pasta is condemning them to years and years of mediocrity (Or worse) I don’t have the confidence they’d identify the right prospects and most draft picks out side of the top 5-6 are far from guarantees. That’s not a rebuild, it’s setting your franchise on fire. You don’t only lose their skills on the ice but you destroy the culture they have helped foster. You’re counting on a one year rebuild with the team on the upswing after that. If you’re lucky you might end up like the Rangers, but you’re more likely to end up with a 6 year run like the Red Wings or the 96-06 Bruins, which I don’t think any remembers fondly. Their aren’t good options, but they can be competitive the next few seasons. Before I’d do anything with the players, I’d make a change at the GM level and work on the player dev model and bottom half roster managemen.
I can see that it may not work. So I get the disagreement, but what to do?

Bergeron (who I would never trade) is going to go over the hill any year now, Marchand is probably closer than we think. You’re condemning them to years of mediocrity without major moves - No? I want them to stick it out this year but is the team going to be better next year? How? By next year they’ll have no #1 center.

I respect your opinion. They seem screwed, not even so much this year but next and on to me. The cupboard is bare and there’s absolutely no hope in Providence. They have stars in their middle 20s who will be overpaid and declining by the time they get anyone to help.

I probably agree on the GM front after this season. I’m don’t WANT to burn it down. I just see no other option to be a contender.
 

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I can see that it may not work. So I get the disagreement, but what to do?

Bergeron (who I would never trade) is going to go over the hill any year now, Marchand is probably closer than we think. You’re condemning them to years of mediocrity without major moves - No? I want them to stick it out this year but is the team going to be better next year? How? By next year they’ll have no #1 center.

I respect your opinion. They seem screwed, not even so much this year but next and on to me. The cupboard is bare and there’s absolutely no hope in Providence. They have stars in their middle 20s who will be overpaid and declining by the time they get anyone to help.

I probably agree on the GM front after this season. I’m don’t WANT to burn it down. I just see no other option to be a contender.
Your timeline isn’t really any different than playing out the string for 2-3 seasons with Bergy, Marchand, and Pasta. Your looking at 5-6 seasons seven if they get a decent haul from the trades. Pasta is a foundation piece who should be part of the next high level cup contender even if that is 5 years out. Bergy figures to come back on a team friendly contact, so maybe they can add a piece. There isn’t any quick fix that makes them a much better team in 2 seasons, so why not try to be competitive and see what an happen. My position is at least rooted in the idea that there will be a period of suck not too far in the future no matter what. I’d rather see Bergy and Marchand take a couple of last cracks at a playoff run even if the odds are long, than buy some lottery tickets not likely to take them to the promised land.

if you can point to one tear down and rebuild that worked in 2-3 seasons I might think differently, but I think in the cap era it’s about a prolonged tanking to try to hit on a generational talent and being smartly run on building out the rest of the team. Tampa Bay was built on hitting back to back with Stamkos and Hedman at the top of the draft and hitting on a number of lower round picks. They also had solid vets like St. Louis and Recci to help the young players get established and understand what it takes to win. Florida is finally a contender, but it’s 8 years since Barkov was drafted and most of that team is of a similar age.

Tl:DR If you want to contend in the next 2-3 years it’s going to be a team led by Bergy, Marchand, Pasta, and McAvoy along with Swayman and Ullmark becoming an absolute elite tandem. They need to hope Beecher and Lysell pan out quickly and they finally hit on a few roster fill out pieces. I wouldn’t lay out any money for that to happen, but I still think it’s a better bet than a full tear down resulting in a contender in 23-24 or 24-25 and not something like 29-30.
 

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I think they are down to Carlo and Coyle in the protocol. Cassidy said Carlo should be back mid-week. Next game, for now, is Saturday afternoon.

Bergy said he had mild symptoms for a couple of days. Also, he had made the decision to go to the Olympics, if asked by Team Canada. Marchand said the same, as did McAvoy for Team USA. I do feel bad for Marchand, this was probably his only opportunity to play for Canada in the Olympics.
 

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Marshy was pissed…he called out the league saying the concern was about money not player health (and he’s right).
 

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It sucks for Marchand, but I don't think the league had much of a choice. It was either play in China or play hockey into August.

Ideally, they would've just moved the hockey tournament to the US/Canada but the IOC would never go for that.
 

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Carlo returned today, so we're down to just Coyle who will be out for another week or so.

Can't decide how I feel about this break. On the one hand, a 2-week reset might not be such a bad thing. It's obviously been a slog to start the year and we have mulitple players under performing. Maybe the 2-weeks off lets everyone take a deep breath, clear their head and get going again like it's a new season. They also timed it decently so their outbreak really only cost them 1-game with a depleted lineup. On the other hand, some guys were actually sick with mild symptoms so that's not great. Could be some rust and what not coming back.

Edit: With the change in protocol, Coyle may be able to return earlier and play Saturday.
 
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cshea

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I mean, duh.

He's been practicing for almost a month with them. They said he was 3-weeks away when they returned to practice last weekend. They announced he's going to play in Providence while the Bruins are on the road sometime between 1/7-1/9. I mean, they didn't make things a secret. It has been quite obvious he is going to getting signed at some point it's just a matter of when for cap purposes.
 

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That lineup would look great - if they had Hertl instead of Haula. This team is in big trouble.