2020 Schedule Thread

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Seattle and KC early is potentially a blessing from the perspective of home field advantage - there may be no fans early in the season (or all season, of course).
 

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Brady's bye is in week 13. Kinda crappy for fantasy purposes.
 

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For those in the NYC area, here's the schedule at the moment (there’s a ton of flex scheduling in Weeks 15-17):

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Do the Jets have two games in a row against the Dolphins (separated by a bye week)? Did I see that graphic correctly?
 

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The way I see it, the Pats will be on TV in the NYC area the following weeks.
2. at Seattle SNF
4. at KC national 4:25 game
7. vs. SF national 4:25 game
9. at Jets MNF
10. vs. Baltimore SNF
11. at Houston 1:00(both Jets and Giants have byes and Pats game is best of the 1:00 CBS window)
14. at LA Rams TNF
16. vs. Buffalo MNF
17. vs. Jets 1:00
 

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If my analysis of the schedule is correct, you could see up to 15 Bucs games on TV in Boston this year.
Not to mention creative scheduling decisions. In Oregon, we got Titans games for years because of Mariota
 

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at first look
MIA W
@ SEA L
LV W
@ KC L
DEN W
SF L
@ BUFF L
@ NYJ W
BALT L
@ HOU W
ZONA L
@ LAC W
@ LAR W
@ MIA L
BUFF W
NYJ W
9-7
If they actually go 3-0 @HOU and @LA, they deserve to make the playoffs. I'll be amazed if that happens.
 

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11. at Houston 1:00(both Jets and Giants have byes and Pats game is best of the 1:00 CBS window)
CBS can show any game since there's obviously no blackout so that puts LAC-DEN in play too. Although given that it's the Pats and they may not want to show the 4:05 game against the national 4:25 game anyways, I'd bet they'll probably be on.
 

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Initial thoughts....

Sept. 13: vs. Miami, Win

Sept. 20: at Seattle, Loss

Sept. 27: vs. Las Vegas, Win

Oct. 4: at Kansas City, Loss

Oct. 11: vs. Denver, Win

Oct. 18: BYE

Oct. 25: vs. San Francisco, Loss

Nov. 1: at Buffalo, Loss

Nov. 9: at N.Y. Jets, Win

Nov. 15: vs. Baltimore, Loss

Nov. 22: at Houston, Win

Nov. 29: vs. Arizona, Win

Dec. 6: at L.A. Chargers, Win

Dec. 10: at L.A. Rams, Win

Dec. 20: at Miami, Loss

Dec. 28: vs. Buffalo, Win

Jan. 3: vs. N.Y. Jets, Win

I see 10-6, but maybe 8-8 if a couple of games don't go their way. I don't see a path to more than 10 wins though. But a 10-6 season would be a success, especially if Stidham improves and shows that he can be a high-level NFL starter.
 

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I see 10-6, but maybe 8-8 if a couple of games don't go their way. I don't see a path to more than 10 wins though. But a 10-6 season would be a success, especially if Stidham improves and shows that he can be a high-level NFL starter.
The path is win all the games you said and then win in Miami. I know they struggle down there, but the Fins aren't a juggernaut. That's the path.
 

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Not that it matters with Red Zone and streaming, but that means 4 likely good games on in NYC that weekend during the 1 and 4 spots...
Week 17 is the only time when both networks have doubleheaders. There's only one game on CBS Week 11.
 

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More parallels to 2001. They will start 5-5, then rip off 6 in a row to finish 11-5.

Not really. But there's definitely a path to 9 wins here.
 

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Wouldn't CBS want all early games rather than late on Masters Sunday? I'm not a big golf watcher but isn't the height of the back nine for the leaders around 4-6pm ET?
My guess based on the schedule is that they will start the final round earlier than usual and want it to be over by 4:00. In a normal year, the last few groups go off between 2:30 and 3:00. Personally, I loved last year starting in the morning.
 

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And McVay can spend that 58 minutes getting all giddy anticipating Belichick’s game plan.
 

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Peter King talks with Fauci about the NFL

“Also,” I said, “I take it that teams have to be willing to say, If Patrick Mahomes tests positive on a Saturday night, he’s got to disappear for two weeks.
“Absolutely, absolutely,” Fauci said. “It would be malpractice in medicine to put him on the field, absolutely.”
 

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If they decide to take the first 4 weeks and move them to end of season, the Pats would then have their bye in week 2.

And if they somehow start on time but with no fans or very limited fans, the trips to Seattle and KC are a bit easier.
 

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I would hope no one thinks that.
I think that, as long as we mean "play all the games, but with few / no fans in the stands".

Not that I think it's a good idea, just that the authoritarian impulses of the people in charge, their general disregard for the safety of their players, I think will win out in the end - to say nothing of the money involved.
 

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If they decide to take the first 4 weeks and move them to end of season, the Pats would then have their bye in week 2.
All week 2 opponents have the same bye week in case it needs to be rescheduled.
 

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How is football going to be played in the fall? The virus is not going away. Yes, we can test every player, ref, team staff member every single day, but all it's gonna take is a few positive results on one team to throw the season into turmoil. Forget high school and college football. No chance. OK. Not no chance, but not much of a chance.
 

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How is football going to be played in the fall? The virus is not going away. Yes, we can test every player, ref, team staff member every single day, but all it's gonna take is a few positive results on one team to throw the season into turmoil. Forget high school and college football. No chance. OK. Not no chance, but not much of a chance.
The only way we get there is if we decide as a society that we can live with people getting covid19. Because people ARE gonna get it. Period. Even with vaccines, tens of millions of people get the flu every year. (NO THIS IS NOT THE FLU!!!) The point is that this stuff doesn't just vanish, I don't think.
 

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The only way we get there is if we decide as a society that we can live with people getting covid19. Because people ARE gonna get it. Period. Even with vaccines, tens of millions of people get the flu every year. (NO THIS IS NOT THE FLU!!!) The point is that this stuff doesn't just vanish, I don't think.
No. It's not going away until most of the populace takes a vaccine or herd immunity stops it from spreading. High school football is not happening. College football? How? The NCAA and the universities will have the testing in place in August to proceed with a season? What if a few players test positive? Then that's it. Quarantine the team for 14 days. We are talking college kids, Not professionals. We are in the early stages of this fight. Three months is simply not enough time to allow sports to happen. National cases are not falling. They are pretty much steady. I hope I am wrong, but I do not think i am.
 

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The only way we get there is if we decide as a society that we can live with people getting covid19. Because people ARE gonna get it. Period. Even with vaccines, tens of millions of people get the flu every year. (NO THIS IS NOT THE FLU!!!) The point is that this stuff doesn't just vanish, I don't think.
One (of many) differences is that there are multiple strains of flu. The "strains" of CoVid-19 identified so far are not believed to have any impact on vaccine efficacy. So it is possible that if we get a vaccine, SARS2 could vanish much like SARS1 did.

There are two other exit strategies: one is an effective treatment that makes living with CoVid-19 much more palatable to most of the public. The probability of that outcome should not be so readily dismissed. There are a number of treatment candidates both in trial and under development; the remdesivir news showed that the virus is vulnerable to anti-virals.

The other exit strategy is herd immunity over time. We will probably need some combination of the above. We will not be able to stay in lockdown for 18 months, no matter what some "experts" try to tell us. Not for a virus with a 1% fatality rate.

EDIT: I'm not hopeful for NFL in 2020. I am 100% convinced that by the 2021 football season, either one of the above scenarios will come to pass, or we will have learned to live with it, or that we will have caused civilization to collapse with an ill-advised and ill-informed extended economic shutdown.
 

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One (of many) differences is that there are multiple strains of flu. The "strains" of CoVid-19 identified so far are not believed to have any impact on vaccine efficacy. So it is possible that if we get a vaccine, SARS2 could vanish much like SARS1 did.

There are two other exit strategies: one is an effective treatment that makes living with CoVid-19 much more palatable to most of the public. The probability of that outcome should not be so readily dismissed. There are a number of treatment candidates both in trial and under development; the remdesivir news showed that the virus is vulnerable to anti-virals.

The other exit strategy is herd immunity over time. We will probably need some combination of the above. We will not be able to stay in lockdown for 18 months, no matter what some "experts" try to tell us. Not for a virus with a 1% fatality rate.

EDIT: I'm not hopeful for NFL in 2020. I am 100% convinced that by the 2021 football season, either one of the above scenarios will come to pass, or we will have learned to live with it, or that we will have caused civilization to collapse with an ill-advised and ill-informed extended economic shutdown.
If the figures are right from the antibody tests, we probably have about 10x the amount of infections that are recorded "officially". Well right now in the US we have 1.4 million officially known total cases. 10x that is 14 million. Due to the lockdown, it's taken us roughly 5 months to get to 14 million. Herd immunity is anywhere from 60-80% of the total population. Well, that means we need to get between 198-264 million people infected. At 14 million over 5 months, that's a rate of 2.8 million a month. Call it 3 million a month. Even if we triple that and go 9 million a month, it'll take 22-29 months to get to herd immunity.

NO. WAY. are we waiting that long as a society. And since a vaccine is likely more than a year away (maybe 18 months), decisions have to be made. Do we indeed stay locked down for that long, or do we decide that we can live with some people getting covid19?

I'm not in charge, thankfully, because these are impossible decisions to make, and anyone who says they know exactly the right thing to do is completely full of crap.
 

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One (of many) differences is that there are multiple strains of flu. The "strains" of CoVid-19 identified so far are not believed to have any impact on vaccine efficacy. So it is possible that if we get a vaccine, SARS2 could vanish much like SARS1 did.

There are two other exit strategies: one is an effective treatment that makes living with CoVid-19 much more palatable to most of the public. The probability of that outcome should not be so readily dismissed. There are a number of treatment candidates both in trial and under development; the remdesivir news showed that the virus is vulnerable to anti-virals.

The other exit strategy is herd immunity over time. We will probably need some combination of the above. We will not be able to stay in lockdown for 18 months, no matter what some "experts" try to tell us. Not for a virus with a 1% fatality rate.

EDIT: I'm not hopeful for NFL in 2020. I am 100% convinced that by the 2021 football season, either one of the above scenarios will come to pass, or we will have learned to live with it, or that we will have caused civilization to collapse with an ill-advised and ill-informed extended economic shutdown.
I agree. Three months seems like a long time, but nothing is quick with this virus. Cases are still high. I can't imagine things will be dramatically different in August, and the situation could be worse as the days get shorter in the fall. The NFL has a ton of money and people committed to playing, so I guess they have a chance of a season. High school and college football in the fall is a long shot at best. You can't put kids at risk for a game.
 

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NO. WAY. are we waiting that long as a society. And since a vaccine is likely more than a year away (maybe 18 months), decisions have to be made. Do we indeed stay locked down for that long, or do we decide that we can live with some people getting covid19?
We were never intended to lock down until there was a vaccine. We were told to lockdown as to not overwhelm the health system. As it seems we've mostly alleviated that threat, the decisions need to be made about slow and careful re-openings and what the new normal is.
 

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We were never intended to lock down until there was a vaccine. We were told to lockdown as to not overwhelm the health system. As it seems we've mostly alleviated that threat, the decisions need to be made about slow and careful re-openings and what the new normal is.
I think a surprisingly large part of the population thought that locking society down for a few months was going to make the virus go away. It did slow the spread, but the virus is still out there, still spreading, which makes sports in the fall doubtful.
 

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If the figures are right from the antibody tests, we probably have about 10x the amount of infections that are recorded "officially". Well right now in the US we have 1.4 million officially known total cases. 10x that is 14 million. Due to the lockdown, it's taken us roughly 5 months to get to 14 million. Herd immunity is anywhere from 60-80% of the total population. Well, that means we need to get between 198-264 million people infected. At 14 million over 5 months, that's a rate of 2.8 million a month. Call it 3 million a month. Even if we triple that and go 9 million a month, it'll take 22-29 months to get to herd immunity.

NO. WAY. are we waiting that long as a society. And since a vaccine is likely more than a year away (maybe 18 months), decisions have to be made. Do we indeed stay locked down for that long, or do we decide that we can live with some people getting covid19?

I'm not in charge, thankfully, because these are impossible decisions to make, and anyone who says they know exactly the right thing to do is completely full of crap.
We as a society have already made the decision that we will live with some amount of the virus. Many states are "reopening", and the remaining ones will likely follow in short order. But reopening will be a lot less open than we were, and NFL games are not really at the top of the list. We're not even sure we're going to be able to reopen schools and universities in the fall, and those should have been much higher on the priority list than sporting events.

Effective treatments will allow us to live with the virus in our midst, and really represent the best mid-term option. Test-and-trace will also help in limiting outbreaks. But all of those will take time, and time is already running short in 2020 for live action sports.

I'm sure Goodell's eyes will be on the German and Italian soccer leagues, which will attempt to restart sans fans in the next couple of weeks.