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Tweedydee
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Thanks for this. I’m going to check it out.
Tourist Sauce is more traditional golf vlog, they've done Australia, Scotland, California coast, Ireland, and am now finishing up the Carolinas. Episodes drop every Tuesday at 8pm, I think tonight is actually them playing No. 2 with Justin Hueber.
 

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TFP, I've been listening to No Laying UP podcast for a few years now, guys are funny but know the game.. it helps that their home course is Jax Beach in Fla where my brother plays out of. I've actually texted back and forth a few times with Icrito and Big Randy and have an invite to play with them next time I'm in Jax
 

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You're wrong, Chambers is awesome.
It seems to get rave reviews from people who have played it. I didn't like it for the US Open though. It didn't feel US Openish enough.

But to be honest if they just played a rotation of something like Pebble, Oakmont, Shinnecock, Bethpage, and Merion I would be happy. Sprinkle in an occasional Riviera, Country Club, Pinehurst, and Olympic too. A hard hitting old school roster. The PGA can do the newfangled golf tracks.

FWIW, the next USGA isn't messing around for the foreseeable future: Winged Foot, Torrey, The Country Club, LA Country Club, Pinehurt, Oakmont, Shinnecock, and Pebble going forward.
 

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Tweedydee
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It seems to get rave reviews from people who have played it. I didn't like it for the US Open though. It didn't feel US Openish enough.
I'd agree with this. I absolutely loved the course, but said no less than 15 times while playing it "I can't fucking believe they held a U.S. Open here".

The greens were also pristine when I played. If they were like they were in 2015 I might sing a different tune. But everyone should play it if they can, it's a completely unique experience and a ton of fun.

FWIW, the next USGA isn't messing around for the foreseeable future: Winged Foot, Torrey, The Country Club, LA Country Club, Pinehurt, Oakmont, Shinnecock, and Pebble going forward.
I'd love to see this and have the PGA focus on public courses. Bethpage, Erin Hills, Kiawah, Harding Park, Chambers, etc would all make great PGA courses. I think that's a cool identity the PGA can carve out, the "everyman's major".

TFP, I've been listening to No Laying UP podcast for a few years now, guys are funny but know the game.. it helps that their home course is Jax Beach in Fla where my brother plays out of. I've actually texted back and forth a few times with Icrito and Big Randy and have an invite to play with them next time I'm in Jax
 
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Really? What's wrong with you? I've played it twice and hated it both times. It's a stupid layout in a sand pit with horrible conditions. What's to like?
Come back and play it again with me. They reseeded the greens and the course was in great shape when we played it.

Not sure what you didn't like about the layout, but I thought it was phenomenal. Greens that sit in between dunes, downhill par 3 facing the water and into the wind, drivable par 4s. It's got a lot of character.
 

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Come back and play it again with me. They reseeded the greens and the course was in great shape when we played it.

Not sure what you didn't like about the layout, but I thought it was phenomenal. Greens that sit in between dunes, downhill par 3 facing the water and into the wind, drivable par 4s. It's got a lot of character.
I'll happily play it again with you. The first time I played it was opening weekend and like 5 of the greens are no longer the same. The USGA made them redo them because they were too stupid. The second time the greens were 80% green sand. They still charged full price. It also pissed me off that when I called to get the price for opening weekend I was told one thing and then when we got there the price had a "non-locals" tax that was near $50 if I remember. I guess most of that could have been remedied, it just all left a bad taste in my mouth.
 

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I prefer NLU to Fore Play for content but the Fore Play guys have a video out from playing a round with Kevin Kisner and Scott Brown recently ar Palmetto CC. It’s like an hour and a half and highly entertaining. Kisner seems like a great guy to play a round with.
 

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Tweedydee
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NLU just broadcast on YouTube this week’s Tourist Sauce from Pinehurst No. 2 with Justin Hueber. His first time playing the course, from the US Open tees (7500), par 70, rattled off 17 pars and a birdie. Casual 69 for fun on an incredibly difficult course, and he’s a Korn Ferry Tour grinder.

Those guys are playing a different game.
 

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Tweedydee
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I prefer NLU to Fore Play for content but the Fore Play guys have a video out from playing a round with Kevin Kisner and Scott Brown recently ar Palmetto CC. It’s like an hour and a half and highly entertaining. Kisner seems like a great guy to play a round with.
Kiz is a Marchand level trash talker.
 

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I’m rewatching the 89 Masters. I now remember that having Mike Reid, Scott Hoch, and Ken Green all in contention really appealed to my own dorky- golfer, freshman in high school self.

Though I never liked Tom Kite. Go figure.
 
The final rounds of every Masters from 1986 to 1991 (inclusive) were *unbelievable*. I lived in Atlanta at age 12-17 at that time - the time of my life when sports mattered more than it ever has or will - and it's absolutely no coincidence that the Masters is my favorite sporting event. I could watch those six days of golf on an endless loop. (1990 is probably the least dramatic of those tournaments, and it went to a sudden death playoff and also featured Nicklaus prominently at age 50.)
 

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Well the end of the year could feature 4 majors and a Ryder Cup within la 10 week span or something crazy like that. I guess there's that?

Wonder if they would consider searching for an alternate venue than Winged Foot for the US Open given the trends in NY.
 

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Tweedydee
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Well the end of the year could feature 4 majors and a Ryder Cup within la 10 week span or something crazy like that. I guess there's that?

Wonder if they would consider searching for an alternate venue than Winged Foot for the US Open given the trends in NY.
Oakmont is the permanent backup US Open venue (except in years they actually host it I guess)
 

jercra

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Oh man, I love the old Shell's Wonderful World of golf. I'm happy to say that all of these will be available in the not too distant future.

The pumping up of Houston and it's highway system is pretty amazing. The Athens of the southwest indeed.

I wish they still did this stuff. Match play with top 20 players on Mon/Tues or during the off season or whatever would be fantastic.
 
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jercra

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Phil says a COVID-19 edition of the Match is in the works. Could probably work, biggest hurdle is probably the production staff.



Also, GC is re-running a Big Break season today.
Depending on who's running the event, the production for something with just a few competitors can be handled with appropriate social distancing. The only people needed onsite are a few direct-to-cloud cameras. They can easily stay more than 6 feet away from each other and the players while also only touching their own gear. Every other aspect can be done remotely. Some productions are more capable of this than others though, so it would depend on who has the rights. I think the biggest hurdle is the players not having caddies and having to carry their own bag, though sterelizing a couple of carts seems pretty doable.

The ratings on this would be off the charts.
 

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Tweedydee
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A week from tomorrow should be Masters Thursday. Ugh.

Watching the 2011 Masters final round on YouTube. What an absolute sweepstakes the back 9 was that year.
 

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A week from tomorrow should be Masters Thursday. Ugh.

Watching the 2011 Masters final round on YouTube. What an absolute sweepstakes the back 9 was that year.
i just started watching that one again tonight. I’m not that far yet, but I forgot how quickly Rory looked shaky. And Tiger just eagled #8.
 

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Tentative new schedule if British Open is delayed and not cancelled. If it is cancelled, they would put the US Open into that week at Winged Foot. If it is played, the USGA is planning to move it into later in the fall and could go out West and put it either at Torrey Pines or Pebble Beach but that is up in the air. The tour aims to resume in mid-June. Below is events the article mentions with dates.

PGA Championship--August 6-9
Wyndham Championship--August 13-16
3 more FedEx Cup Events
Tour Championship--Labor Day weekend
British Open--September 17-20
Ryder Cup--September 25-27
Masters--November 12-15

 

cshea

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New schedule announced. Feels kinda dumb to this with so much uncertainty, but here here it is:

June 15-21: PGA Tour Event (formerly US Open)

July 13-19: PGA Tour Event (Formerly Open)
July 27-August 2: PGA Tour Event (Formerly Olympics)

August 3-9: PGA Championship TPC Harding Park, San Francisco
August 10-16: Wyndham Championships
August 17-23: TPC Northern Trust *TPC Boston*
August 24-30: BMW Champinoships
August 31-September 7: Tour Championshop (Labor Day finish)

September 14-20: US Open, Winged Foot Golf Club, New York
September 22-27: Ryder Cup, Whistling Straits, Wisconsin

November 9-15: Masters Tournament, Augusta National Golf Club

It looks like they built some wiggle room with some of the tour events in June/July in case those get waxed or they need to push things back. August and September are jam packed though. US Open and Ryder Cup on back-to-back weeks is going to be wild. Veteran's Day Masters is going to be super weird.
 

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If NFL is on in November will Nantz still be doing the Masters?

If there's no NFL, Masters is gonna feel even more special, especially if NBA and NHL start in December.
Smart move by PGA
 

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If NFL is on in November will Nantz still be doing the Masters?

If there's no NFL, Masters is gonna feel even more special, especially if NBA and NHL start in December.
Smart move by PGA
They will do some juggling on the tv side. Maybe SEC football game of the week will be prime time on Saturday. Maybe tee times will be earlier on Sunday and it will finish by 4:00 window or cbs and nbc switch day and night games.
 

jercra

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This is pretty close to my idea for an anual event at a regularly maintained muni-course somewhere in the country. I have actually pitched the idea to the PGA Tour with some interest so I'm going to take some credit for them even doing this. I've also voiced my opinion that they should do more of these but with expanded coverage. More like the old Shell's Wonderful World of Golf posted above.
 

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This is pretty close to my idea for an anual event at a regularly maintained muni-course somewhere in the country. I have actually pitched the idea to the PGA Tour with some interest so I'm going to take some credit for them even doing this. I've also voiced my opinion that they should do more of these but with expanded coverage. More like the old Shell's Wonderful World of Golf posted above.
I would watch these all day