1) It ignores positive running plays by QBs while punishing them for sacks that could be attributed to designed runs. The argument wasn’t just about top 10 passing QB and in today’s game you can’t ignore that aspect of the position.
To be clear: ANY/A does not ignore TD%. TD% and INT% are factored into the "A" part.
It's fair to note running ability isn't captured in ANY/A (or most passing stats), but designed runs aren't going to be mistaken for sacks very often.
Who are the running QB's that you feel had better seasons that Brady in 2018? It's a strange argument to make in an attempt to devalue Brady's contributions, but I'm curious.
I don’t have time today to pull all their individual rushing stats but just looking at the running component of QBR, Brady was 18th.
Watson was recovering from ACL surgery in 2018 and did not have a better year than Brady, no matter what metric is used. Kirk Cousins being in the same league as Brady is laughable. Brady outplayed Rodgers by a wide margin in their one matchup and statistically had a better season across the board. Goff and Brady were much closer statistically in nearly all measures, and Goff's 2.7 yards per carry aren't exactly indicative of some large number of designed runs being missed by the stats.
The Packers had a very pedestrian offense in 2018, finishing in a tie for 14th in points scored despite an running game that averaged 5.0 yards per carry. Despite the gaudy INT rate, Rodgers was not particularly efficient that year, which is a big reason they only won six games.
Why are we dismissing the fact that BB sees him every single day in practice? He sees him throw a hundred passes a week, every week. He sees him run and offense and he sees how he breaks down defenses.
He has also seen Cam every single day in practice (I understand that he still needs to choose one of the two on game day) but one of the two could possibly benefit from real game experiences that could potentially improve their practice form
See this is just dumb. If you can't play in practice you aren't going to get better in a game. It usually just means you aren't good enough.
Not dismissing it as much as we are seeing Cam not perform week in and week out.
The reports said that Hoyer was the likely starter, that is the opposite of hugely positive. If you mean his teammates pumping him up... that happens all the time, I mean we could sign Christian Hackenberg and McCourty would tell the press about the great practices he's having.
I respect that you disagree, but that does not make the idea "dumb", especially following it up with "usually".
I hate to say this, but I trust BB has considered that.
Yeah. Super Bowl 97 was my first real Pats game that I ever watched. My dad was always a fan but I didn’t care about football much. Then I was a passive fan until The snow bowl which I also watched with my dad (I was in the 10th grade then).I hate to say this, but I trust BB has considered that.
And man, I envy you if this is the worst you've ever seen a Pats QB play...
https://985thesportshub.com/2020/04/17/ian-rapoport-thinks-brian-hoyer-will-be-patriots-starter-in-2020/https://www.masslive.com/patriots/2020/05/brian-hoyer-not-jarrett-stidham-will-be-patriots-week-1-starter-says-rob-ninkovich.htmlRappaport and Ninkovich both were saying they thought Hoyer would be the starter based on what they were hearing
Weird. I remember so many YouTube breakdowns of his pre-season and last season and stuff.
I think that's because everyone knew Hoyer wasn't an NFL starter, so the assumption was... "well Stidham must be the starter" when the answer really was "neither of these guys can start, so it's either sign someone or flip a coin between two guys who you know can't do it".
Cam looks like Dan Marino compared to the gaggle of incompetents we trotted out at QB from 1987 to 1992.I hate to say this, but I trust BB has considered that.
And man, I envy you if this is the worst you've ever seen a Pats QB play...
Flutie weeps. And he was a true Superman with an 8-5 record during the six year period (he was on the team for just three of those) given the ineptitude of the team around him.
I loved Doug Flutie. I was a huge BC fan when I was a kid, and I was psyched when he ended up on the Pats. But in retrospect, his W/L record seemed to be somewhat of a fluke.
Okay good points and that’s all well and good but who would you trust with the game on the line needing just a successful drop kick to ice a close game? Point Flutie.
That‘s great and all, but then I think about all the stupid challenges they’ve made over the years, presumably on Adams’ input. Maybe he can be wrong once in a while.
I’m not an expert on throwing mechanics, and Cam has always has a funky delivery, but his shoulder looks absolutely cooked to me. Like he can’t even raise it to throw at certain angles, he’s moving his entire body to compensate.
No I know. I’m just saying, 15 quarters makes it sound like some massively extended poor streak when it’s two games.
I mean in the few games that Stidham has played I thought he has looked decent. Throw out his first ever appearance against the Jets. Jarrett was decent against the Chiefs, 49ers, and Chargers albeit in garbage time. For all the folks saying Stidham must suck in practice, the back up gets much less than 100 snaps, probably more like 20 snaps. You gotta remember that there are very few actual practices due to changes in the CBA. Most practices are more like walk throughs than padded practices. So for those of you saying that Stidham has a legitimate chance to be the starter based on his practice efforts, have no clue .
The bolded is so completely in opposition to Belichick's coaching philosophy that you'll be waiting a long time. Allen Iverson did not play in the NFL and is not at all a relevant comparison. Established veterans can get away with missing practices here and there, but I'm not aware of a single NFL player that takes off practices but plays on a regular basis. The NFL is not the NBA; not even close.
Ive been saying this all season. His shoulder is nuked. He has no idea where his release point is and doesn’t trust his arm strength so his full body is getting into even medium range throws. I don’t think he comes back to anything close to what he once was. It’s a shame.
18/33 212 yards 2 tds 3 picks and a 56.6 rating mostly against backups is far worse than Cam has been this year
