2020 Pats: 2020 Roster & Beyond (non-QB edition)

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For those that are advocating more veteran turnover to save cap money, don't the Pats run the risk of losing the identity in the locker room with so much turnover? It's the veterans that set the tone for how the team carries itself. If they cut too deep into that, isn't there a risk (especially with Brady absent on the offensive side of the ball)?
Andrews is also a former team captain as I recall, and it was noted many times last season how he was around the team pretty much all season.
 

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This is the one I don't understand. Theoretically, they have two FB's returning to the roster from injury. I can see where Develin might still be considered an injury risk, but Johnson impressed me in his limited time. I have to guess that Vitale's dead money would be nothing more than the $100k signing bonus if he doesn't make the roster.
Vitale is more than just a FB. He can play H-back and a little TE. Versatility moreso than Develin and Johnson can give.
 

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One thing I like to do before the draft is look at the roster with a two-year view. It looks pretty ugly in a number of spots for 2021:
  • Front seven lost KVN, Collins, Shelton this year. It gets even worse next offseason, when Hightower, Guy, Butler, Simon, Wise, Copeland, Calhoun, and Rivers all hit FA. The only front seven players under contract for 2021 are Winovich, Bentley, Cowart, and Beau Allen
  • CB runs six deep in 2020, but JMac, JC Jackson, and Bethel all hit FA after the season
  • White and Burkhead are both FA after 2020, making receiving back a lowkey need
  • Thuney and Andrews are both in the last years of their deals. Wouldn't be surprising to see an extension for either / both
Add in the immediate needs at TE and WR, and Belichick has his work cut out for him.
 

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One thing I like to do before the draft is look at the roster with a two-year view. It looks pretty ugly in a number of spots for 2021:
  • Front seven lost KVN, Collins, Shelton this year. It gets even worse next offseason, when Hightower, Guy, Butler, Simon, Wise, Copeland, Calhoun, and Rivers all hit FA. The only front seven players under contract for 2021 are Winovich, Bentley, Cowart, and Beau Allen
  • CB runs six deep in 2020, but JMac, JC Jackson, and Bethel all hit FA after the season
  • White and Burkhead are both FA after 2020, making receiving back a lowkey need
  • Thuney and Andrews are both in the last years of their deals. Wouldn't be surprising to see an extension for either / both
Add in the immediate needs at TE and WR, and Belichick has his work cut out for him.
I feel like he always has his work cut out for him, and that there's always roster issues. It's probably similar for most other teams. The good news is that they'll have tons of money available to replace these guys - either with themselves or other people.

Who knows what will happen but I'd expect Thuney and Andrews to be extended. I'd expect JC Jackson to get extended, maybe Bethel too because BB loves his special teamers and he's a great one. I wouldn't be surprised to see Hightower extended on a reasonable deal, but the rest probably could go and be replaced relatively easily. White and Burkhead...I don't even know if I see Burkhead making the team this year - he could be cut or traded and Harris could take his spot in the rotation. White is good and could be extended relatively inexpensively I think, but if they have to let him go, they've always found a way to replace that position.
 

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I could see White being Kevin Faulk 2.0 and hanging around into his early to mid 30s. But they certainly won’t overpay for him so will be interesting to see how that shakes out. Could see someone stealing him away.
 

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Not overly concerned about that if it happens but worth noting that both guys effectively redshirted their first year.
That pass-catching back is a really complicated position in the Patriots offense. You have to know all the normal running back stuff, all the pass protection schemes, and all the routes, concepts, and nuances that wide receivers do. It's no wonder Vereen and White redshirted.

If they want to draft a White replacement, the time is now.
 

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That pass-catching back is a really complicated position in the Patriots offense. You have to know all the normal running back stuff, all the pass protection schemes, and all the routes, concepts, and nuances that wide receivers do. It's no wonder Vereen and White redshirted.

If they want to draft a White replacement, the time is now.
This is more for the TB to TB thread, but I get a chuckle out of reading that the Bucs can just grab a passing back in the middle rounds of the draft. Like it's that easy.
 

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This is more for the TB to TB thread, but I get a chuckle out of reading that the Bucs can just grab a passing back in the middle rounds of the draft. Like it's that easy.
Pats trading Burkhead to TB makes some sense for both sides, I think. Though we would just be a White injury away from the return of Brandon Bolden, pass-catching RB.

Though to be fair, Bolden did have more receiving yards than N'Keal Harry last year. ::ducks::
 

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Pats trading Burkhead to TB makes some sense for both sides, I think. Though we would just be a White injury away from the return of Brandon Bolden, pass-catching RB.

Though to be fair, Bolden did have more receiving yards than N'Keal Harry last year. ::ducks::
Bolden is faster too :: ducks with you ::
 

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That pass-catching back is a really complicated position in the Patriots offense. You have to know all the normal running back stuff, all the pass protection schemes, and all the routes, concepts, and nuances that wide receivers do. It's no wonder Vereen and White redshirted.

If they want to draft a White replacement, the time is now.
Yeah, that was the point I was making. It can be replaced but it’s also overly optimistic to think you can just draft a 4th round guy in 2021 and be all set for that season. I hope they bring White back on a short deal.
 

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Bolden is faster too :: ducks with you ::
I like Bolden. Solid receiver, and a decent runner when given the chance. Great at special teams. Solid player to have on the team - very useful guy. Not good enough, obviously, to be an every-down back in the league, but he's very capable as a backup.
 

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was just on CNBC and I hear he's a guest there fairly often

Pats signed LB Brandon Copeland