Ongoing COVID-19 Impact

DJnVa

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Titans now under league and union investigation for violating protocols per Schefter.
 

Jed Zeppelin

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Season will go off the rails if they don’t bubble up, but probably too late to make that happen.
 

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Miami has been given the go-ahead to go to full capacity fans at their home games. To say this is an awful idea is an understatement to awful ideas. Florida is going to Florida.

View: https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1313872647915106304
Commented on the post in the Dolphins thread, but I’ll comment here as well.

I would not attend a game in person, especially a game where there was a possibility of it being near a normal capacity. There’s some major Florida energy here.

That being said, the Dolphins organization has been on the forefront of reopening their stadium safely. Hard Rock Stadium was the first in the world to receive GBAC Star Accreditation.

Also it seems that they aren’t going to open the flood gates right away. They’re keeping stadium capacity at 13K for this coming weekend.

All that being said, people are still people, and Floridians seem a special breed at times. Will enjoy watching the game on Sunday Ticket roughly 1200 miles from Miami.
 

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The Patriots will be docked a first round pick.
Jokes aside, isn’t this the same thing? Memo went out explicitly laying out the rules. Titans broke them. Decision impacts competitive balance of the league. Somebody needs to tell me why this shouldn’t be an automatic 1st round pick penalty.
 

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Jokes aside, isn’t this the same thing? Memo went out explicitly laying out the rules. Titans broke them. Decision impacts competitive balance of the league. Somebody needs to tell me why this shouldn’t be an automatic 1st round pick penalty.
Because the Titans haven’t won multiple Super Bowls...
 

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Jokes aside, isn’t this the same thing? Memo went out explicitly laying out the rules. Titans broke them. Decision impacts competitive balance of the league. Somebody needs to tell me why this shouldn’t be an automatic 1st round pick penalty.
I know covid has created all kinds of weird new realities, but you're spot on here. If the league clearly laid out rules, and the Titans clearly broke them, then this is WAY more serious than Deflategate, even if Deflategate was real (which it wasn't). Because this is a combination of violating the integrity of the game by upsetting competitive balance, but also because, like Bountygate, this could seriously impact the health of players (and coaches).
 

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Miami has been given the go-ahead to go to full capacity fans at their home games. To say this is an awful idea is an understatement to awful ideas. Florida is going to Florida.

View: https://twitter.com/AndySlater/status/1313872647915106304
I'm sorry but even outdoors and with everyone in that stadium theoretically wearing a mask this is a public health nightmare. This is like the Rose Garden on steroids (x100?). Even the Trump campaign felt like it had to limit huge outdoor rallies (who knows for how much longer) but this is a tragedy in the making.

With things like skipping rows of seats, strict masking and distancing each group of fans you can squint your eyes and convince yourself that it's not a literal death trap to open stadiums at limited capacity, but this is absolutely politics overwhelming science.

DeSantis is clearly trying to support the "everything is fine, life is back to normal" Trump message in a critical battleground state and putting not just individual lives at risk but setting up a super-spreader event like we've never seen. Hopefully the Dolphins push on with the 13K limit even after this weekend but given the money aspect I'd fear that greed wins out. Unreal.
 

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I'm sorry but even outdoors and with everyone in that stadium theoretically wearing a mask this is a public health nightmare. This is like the Rose Garden on steroids (x100?). Even the Trump campaign felt like it had to limit huge outdoor rallies (who knows for how much longer) but this is a tragedy in the making.

With things like skipping rows of seats, strict masking and distancing each group of fans you can squint your eyes and convince yourself that it's not a literal death trap to open stadiums at limited capacity, but this is absolutely politics overwhelming science.

DeSantis is clearly trying to support the "everything is fine, life is back to normal" Trump message in a critical battleground state and putting not just individual lives at risk but setting up a super-spreader event like we've never seen. Hopefully the Dolphins push on with the 13K limit even after this weekend but given the money aspect I'd fear that greed wins out. Unreal.
The Dolphins have already said they will continue to follow CDC guidelines, so they aren't going more than 25% full.

Not to mention, they could open that stadium to everyone in the world today and they're not getting 65,000 people at a Dolphins game.
 

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The Dolphins have already said they will continue to follow CDC guidelines, so they aren't going more than 25% full.

Not to mention, they could open that stadium to everyone in the world today and they're not getting 65,000 people at a Dolphins game.
Just picturing "social distancing" at the entrance gates, I can't think of a game at Gillette Stadium where I have not been ass to elbow with hundreds of people at the security checkpoint for 5-10 minutes, unless hitting the sweet spot somewhere an hour to hour and a half before kickoff.
 

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Just picturing "social distancing" at the entrance gates, I can't think of a game at Gillette Stadium where I have not been ass to elbow with hundreds of people at the security checkpoint for 5-10 minutes, unless hitting the sweet spot somewhere an hour to hour and a half before kickoff.
A game with 25% attendance should not have that issue.
 

DJnVa

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https://sports.yahoo.com/bills-players-may-not-get-paid-if-titans-forfeit-in-week-5-due-to-nf-ls-coronavirus-rules-152712850.html
“If any games are canceled (and not later played) during the 2020 season once the regular season has begun, Clubs will not be obligated to pay the salary protected by applicable 2020 Guaranteed Salary during the 2020 season that would have covered salary for any cancelled games, provided that the foregoing does not apply to any salary guarantee, signing bonus, roster bonus, or reporting bonus earned but not paid prior to cancellation.”
JFC. Did the NFL and NFLPA *really* not put a clause in there that differentiates between "cancelled" and "forfeited".
 

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I seem to recall that the NFL will fine a team a gazillion dollars if they forfeit. Maybe there's a covid exception.
 

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A game with 25% attendance should not have that issue.
To clarify, my response was meant for the DeSantis clearance for full fans, not for what the Dolphins are currently following. The members who went to the Pats-Chiefs game could probably comment on how well the spacing was maintained entering that partially full stadium.
 

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For the first time maybe ever the NFL is justified is levying a huge penalty IMO. Those guys are fucking with not only revenue but health and safety of not only their teammates coaches staffs and opponents but also all of the communities where those folks reside. It is extremely reckless behavior. Now one question is if the Titans knew. If so, monster penalty. If not, I think they get the benefit of the doubt and a lighter penalty.
 

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For the first time maybe ever the NFL is justified is levying a huge penalty IMO. Those guys are fucking with not only revenue but health and safety of not only their teammates coaches staffs and opponents but also all of the communities where those folks reside. It is extremely reckless behavior. Now one question is if the Titans knew. If so, monster penalty. If not, I think they get the benefit of the doubt and a lighter penalty.
I agree with you, but also believe that the league is fucking with the health and safety of players, coaches and staff by requiring the Patriots to play on Monday.
 

DJnVa

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I agree with you, but also believe that the league is fucking with the health and safety of players, coaches and staff by requiring the Patriots to play on Monday.
Devil's advocate--are you saying there should be an automatic cancellation of game if there's a positive test?
 

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For the first time maybe ever the NFL is justified is levying a huge penalty IMO. Those guys are fucking with not only revenue but health and safety of not only their teammates coaches staffs and opponents but also all of the communities where those folks reside. It is extremely reckless behavior. Now one question is if the Titans knew. If so, monster penalty. If not, I think they get the benefit of the doubt and a lighter penalty.
I believe I heard Dale Arnold mention yesterday that the Titans GM has a child attending the prep school where the practice/workout occurred.