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BigSoxFan

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Good for them, he was done there and getting him out of the building ahead of a veritable playoff game is a good thing. What a shithead.
Yup. I have zero interest in him and I just spent the past 4 months watching Cam short hop every other throw.
 

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Without knowing any background or pre-draft history, how much of a screw-up do you have to be to get ditched by Washington less than two years after being chosen in the first round?
 

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Without knowing any background or pre-draft history, how much of a screw-up do you have to be to get ditched by Washington less than two years after being chosen in the first round?
Particularly since Haskins was reportedly the owner's decision
 

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Going to be amazing if the Jets late season wins makes them go from Lawrence to Haskins as their QB of the future.
 

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Tomlin announced that Big Ben (and possible others) is getting week 17 off. The Browns need to beat the Steelers to make the playoffs.

 

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Tomlin announced that Big Ben (and possible others) is getting week 17 off. The Browns need to beat the Steelers to make the playoffs.

Rudolph vs. Garrett will be fun to watch
 

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ESPN has a feature on Pro-Bowl kicker Younghoe Koo:

Koo grew up playing soccer, but one day in sixth grade, John Byon, a Korean American classmate, invited Koo to play football at recess. Byon told him to kick the ball to start off the game.

"I s--- you not, it was straight out of 'The Sandlot.' Straight out of a sports movie," Byon told me in 2017. "The ball just flew over the field we were playing in and over the fence. It was like, 'Oh my god. You have to play football.'"

"I didn't know what kicking was," Koo says. "My parents didn't know what football was."
 

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Ratings may down, but the NFL is still the king.

The NFL generated 82 of the 85 largest sports audiences in 2020, with the three exceptions being three college football bowl games last January — the New Year’s Day Rose Bowl and Citrus Bowl and the January 13 LSU-Clemson National Championship. The top non-football sporting event ranked 86th, Game 6 of the World Series.
 

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The Texans have suggested that they’ll listen to quarterback Deshaun Watson when hiring a coach. But what if they ultimately don’t hire the person he’d like to be coached by?

Rumors already are circulating, and we’ve already heard them from multiple different people, that Watson has quietly broached with teammates the possibility of requesting a trade. If that’s happening, it may just be a strategic effort to ensure his views are respected by ownership. Regardless, it raises the stakes and crosses a bridge and potentially sets the foundation for Watson eventually to decide that he’d like to continue his career elsewhere.

We can already hear the reaction. “He just signed a new contract, the cap charge would be crippling!

Take a look at the contract. Trading him would result in a cap charge of $21.6 million. The Herschel-sized haul of draft picks that a Deshaun Watson trade would generate would more than justify it.

View: https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1347196011056402438
 

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Would Sam Darnold plus both of NYJ's first round picks be enough? They then hire Eric Bieniemy. (This is Rich Eisen's idea...though in his pipe dream it was only giving up the later 1st round pick)
 

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Would Sam Darnold plus both of NYJ's first round picks be enough? They then hire Eric Bieniemy. (This is Rich Eisen's idea...though in his pipe dream it was only giving up the later 1st round pick)
Guessing Watson would want no part of the Jets but if you're going to be dumb enough to trade prime Deshaun Watson, starting with Fields/Wilson and a few other picks is a decent start. Also wondering about Hurts+#6+more for Philly. Then, they trade Wentz to recoup some of the lost draft capital. If they actually make Watson available, Houston would be able to get a ton. Shoot, would Miami do Tua/#3 (their original pick)? They'd be crazy not to.
 

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Watson is a guy you empty the cupboard for. If somehow he's available to the Patriots, I hope BB ponies up because you don't often get 25-year old, proven stud QBs fall into your lap like that.
 

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Would Sam Darnold plus both of NYJ's first round picks be enough? They then hire Eric Bieniemy. (This is Rich Eisen's idea...though in his pipe dream it was only giving up the later 1st round pick)
If I were HOU.... no.
I'd ask for Darnold both 1sts, and either at least 1 more 1st or a handful of 2nd and 3rds.
 

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Watson probably had the best passing season in history for any player whose team finished with a losing record (or at the very least, a team that won four games or fewer). I think Brees went 7-9 one year and had amazing numbers.

Player A: 70% completion percentage, 4,823 yards, 33 TDs, 7 INTs, 8.9 Y/A, 112 Rating, 444 yards rushing.

Player B: 66% completion percentage, 4,740 yards, 38 TDs, 6 INTs, 8.1 Y/A, 108 Rating, 308 yards rushing.

Player A is Watson, Player B is Mahomes. So Watson basically had the same season as Mahomes, only with a much worse team that traded away their best WR in the offseason and changed offensive systems mid-way through the season. Houston would be crazy to let him walk; some franchises wait decades for a QB like Watson.
 

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Would Sam Darnold plus both of NYJ's first round picks be enough? They then hire Eric Bieniemy. (This is Rich Eisen's idea...though in his pipe dream it was only giving up the later 1st round pick)
If you were going to do that trade, I think you wouldn't include Darnold. You would have to love Fields.
 

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View: https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1347358307154087936


The stories out of Houston... man McNair and company are running a clown show.

They promise their QB he'll be allowed to have a voice in the room on GM and Coach.

Then they hire a GM without even a heads up and flat refuse to interview the highly qualified coach he advocated for, in fact they are the only team with a head coach vacancy NOT to ask to interview Bieniemy.

The more I hear about the Texans the more I hope they fail terribly, they have a bumbling incompetent for an owner and while the SI piece was certainly sourced from people with an axe to grind, it doesn't appear to be substantively untrue about snake oil salesman Easterby

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View: https://twitter.com/MikeGarafolo/status/1346631643583434760


Oh I missed this, the Texans hired a search firm to give them a list of GM candidates. Then when Caserio wasn't on it they threw the list away and hired Caserio. Maybe Caserio is a genius and fixes everything, but man nothing McNair does is what a well run franchise would do
 

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if Watson really goes he probably ends up teaming up with Bienemy, so NE is out.

But Bill should try. I know he will be reluctant to give up multiple 1sts and it'd put a big dent in fixing our offensive skill positions and rotting DL. But Watson could be your answer for the next 10 years at QB.
 

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if Watson really goes he probably ends up teaming up with Bienemy, so NE is out.

But Bill should try. I know he will be reluctant to give up multiple 1sts and it'd put a big dent in fixing our offensive skill positions and rotting DL. But Watson could be your answer for the next 10 years at QB.
Watson, barring injury, is the answer. He was already close to elite heading into the season, and cut down on a lot of mistakes this season and had an MVP type year. Get it done!
 

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Cal McNair would have to order the trade over Caserio’s objections and/or some team would have to offer an unprecedented package (think Herschel Walker times two).

Given Watt is near the end and likely on his way out the door due to their cap situation, this guy is their franchise. I would be shocked if they traded him.
 

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Oh I missed this, the Texans hired a search firm to give them a list of GM candidates. Then when Caserio wasn't on it they threw the list away and hired Caserio. Maybe Caserio is a genius and fixes everything, but man nothing McNair does is what a well run franchise would do
I don't follow the logic here. I would argue Korn Ferry is more at fault here (or the requirements given to Korn Ferry were crap). It's not like Caserio is a nobody, he's the number 2 in charge of the best team of the last decade with three SB's to his name.
 

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I don't follow the logic here. I would argue Korn Ferry is more at fault here (or the requirements given to Korn Ferry were crap). It's not like Caserio is a nobody, he's the number 2 in charge of the best team of the last decade with three SB's to his name.
Good point. Maybe the requirements compiled for the search included a preference to avoid someone with a Patriots pedigree? Watson's tweet in response to Caserio's hiring might support that.
 

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I don't follow the logic here. I would argue Korn Ferry is more at fault here (or the requirements given to Korn Ferry were crap). It's not like Caserio is a nobody, he's the number 2 in charge of the best team of the last decade with three SB's to his name.
It's a process question. If you hire professionals to do something, and tout it widely that you are doing so (in particular noting that Easterby will not be involved) and they give you a list of highly qualified applicants, and you then throw the list away and hire someone that the person you specifically said wasn't involved is close with (and got your team in trouble by trying to recruit in the past) it tells everyone that you didn't really have a process. Caserio's qualifications are irrelevant, it's that you had pre-selected him then went through a charade of lying to your players and fans about an open search.

It's a dysfunctional process that may have accidentally ended up at the correct result. Caserio may be great, but he's not so wildly above the field that a search firm should necessarily have put him on their short list, and hiring a search firm then ignoring them to pick your buddy (even if your buddy is qualified) is terrible process and indicates a structural issue at the top. If they were unhappy with the list, they could have asked the firm for additional candidates, but that clearly wasn't the case here, instead it is pretty clear that this was similar to when a team wants to hire a guy then they go out and interview some other people to cover their ass on the Rooney Rule.
 

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It's a process question. If you hire professionals to do something, and tout it widely that you are doing so (in particular noting that Easterby will not be involved) and they give you a list of highly qualified applicants, and you then throw the list away and hire someone that the person you specifically said wasn't involved is close with (and got your team in trouble by trying to recruit in the past) it tells everyone that you didn't really have a process. Caserio's qualifications are irrelevant, it's that you had pre-selected him then went through a charade of lying to your players and fans about an open search.

It's a dysfunctional process that may have accidentally ended up at the correct result. Caserio may be great, but he's not so wildly above the field that a search firm should necessarily have put him on their short list, and hiring a search firm then ignoring them to pick your buddy (even if your buddy is qualified) is terrible process and indicates a structural issue at the top. If they were unhappy with the list, they could have asked the firm for additional candidates, but that clearly wasn't the case here, instead it is pretty clear that this was similar to when a team wants to hire a guy then they go out and interview some other people to cover their ass on the Rooney Rule.
All of this, plus I think these consulting firms are basically a scam to begin with, plus the Texans have been interviewing both GM and head coach candidates willy-nilly with no apparent plan for what order they were going to hire them and what their organizational structure is going to look like after. Houston looks dumb and dysfunctional.
 

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Well, on the one hand, you don't want to trade a tremendous young quarterback like Watson, basically under any circumstances. On the other hand, the haul of draft picks you'd get in the right deal in this case would make Caserio's job rebuilding the whole Houston roster in his style a much quicker job. Think about what the Cowboys ended up with out of that Hershel Walker trade. That resulted in multiple HOFers, multiple additional all-pros, and other starters on Super Bowl winning teams.

At least makes you think, if the draft haul would be even more than that in this case. Obviously it depends on what you think you can do around Watson over the next few years (and whether the morale damage can be repaired with him).
 

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if Watson really goes he probably ends up teaming up with Bienemy, so NE is out.

But Bill should try. I know he will be reluctant to give up multiple 1sts and it'd put a big dent in fixing our offensive skill positions and rotting DL. But Watson could be your answer for the next 10 years at QB.
Maybe this should go in the "If you were in charge of the Pats" thread, but how much would you be willing to give up for Watson?
 

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He understands that while he may have no trade he doesn’t get to decide what Houston might want in return.