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Niners are out of receivers. They need bodies at this point.

It's not why they lost on Sunday but still, giving Jimmy G viable targets at the position is good.
 

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looks slightly suspicious. But also could have just been some weird tradition where he touches the spot.

Cant really see anything in his hand.
 

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Someone is saying it's illegal to mark the spot in the NFL, but i don't know the rule.

Would need an expert, but they will just be told to knock it off next time and nothing will come of it even if they do it again.
 

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Once this "complication" was announced, this was pretty clearly what happened, doesn't come as a surprise at all.

This is definitely a known risk of an injection like this, though you would think the best and most experienced doc would be doing a VIP pre-game injection and the risk should be very low.

Assuming they did a proper consent form and this doc had reasonable training with this procedure, hard to see how he/she could get in much trouble. Though of course the Chargers could still get a new team doctor if they want. Might make other players a bit reluctant to trust this doctor going forward, fairly or not.
 

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They definitely have had an interesting history of team orthopedists, no doubt about it.

I'm biased, but they did have the best "team radiologists" when they were in San Diego :).
 

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Once this "complication" was announced, this was pretty clearly what happened, doesn't come as a surprise at all.

This is definitely a known risk of an injection like this, though you would think the best and most experienced doc would be doing a VIP pre-game injection and the risk should be very low.

Assuming they did a proper consent form and this doc had reasonable training with this procedure, hard to see how he/she could get in much trouble. Though of course the Chargers could still get a new team doctor if they want. Might make other players a bit reluctant to trust this doctor going forward, fairly or not.
But how big is the freaking needle they are using for some local or steroid? I thought things like 25g wouldn't cause a PTX. Why they can do lung bx without putting a chest tube after.

Given how Hebert played, this is worst way to get Wally Pipp'd
 

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But how big is the freaking needle they are using for some local or steroid? I thought things like 25g wouldn't cause a PTX. Why they can do lung bx without putting a chest tube after.

Given how Hebert played, this is worst way to get Wally Pipp'd

Any size needle can cause a pneumothorax, honestly there is some luck (or bad luck) involved. This study says 42% pneumothorax and 12% chest tube with lung biopsies. https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.09.3224

Honestly that sounds a bit high, I would have guessed 20-25%. Higher risk in lung cancer patients because many have emphysema though.

But either way, a needle going into the pleura (or beyond) is a risky thing to do. This should be a very superficial procedure under ultrasound guidance with visualization of the needle the entire time.

In a young thin patient there isn't a lot of tissue between the skin and the lung and clearly the doctor got a little careless.
 

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Meanwhile, until Taylor is cleared to play again, the Chargers backup quarterback is

Easton Stick
 

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So, is there a good argument for not adopting the new injured reserve rules going forward? As a fan and someone who enjoys fantasy football, I think the 3-game minimum is a huge improvement, and found the old system to be overly-punishing. Does it simply come down to the owners not wanting to pay for replacement players more often over the course of the year?
 

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Any size needle can cause a pneumothorax, honestly there is some luck (or bad luck) involved. This study says 42% pneumothorax and 12% chest tube with lung biopsies. https://www.ajronline.org/doi/10.2214/AJR.09.3224

Honestly that sounds a bit high, I would have guessed 20-25%. Higher risk in lung cancer patients because many have emphysema though.

But either way, a needle going into the pleura (or beyond) is a risky thing to do. This should be a very superficial procedure under ultrasound guidance with visualization of the needle the entire time.

In a young thin patient there isn't a lot of tissue between the skin and the lung and clearly the doctor got a little careless.
Right the neurovasc bundle is just inferior to rub. Should have been very superficial at an oblique angle
 

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So, is there a good argument for not adopting the new injured reserve rules going forward? As a fan and someone who enjoys fantasy football, I think the 3-game minimum is a huge improvement, and found the old system to be overly-punishing. Does it simply come down to the owners not wanting to pay for replacement players more often over the course of the year?
I tend to agree, as long as the old "stashing players" gambit can be controlled
 

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Right the neurovasc bundle is just inferior to rub. Should have been very superficial at an oblique angle
Yea, not a very complicated injection but definitely not much room for error. I did a handful in fellowship but don’t do them in my regular practice. A pretty rare thing aside from competitive atheletes.

I’m stuck doing the occasional thoracentesis on call otherwise I don’t do anything with a pneumo risk. Definitely don’t do the lung biopsies anymore. I’m content to read my knee, shoulder, elbow, wrist, hip, ankle, and spine mris in peace :)
 

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Yea, not a very complicated injection but definitely not much room for error. I did a handful in fellowship but don’t do them in my regular practice. A pretty rare thing aside from competitive atheletes.

I’m stuck doing the occasional thoracentesis on call otherwise I don’t do anything with a pneumo risk. Definitely don’t do the lung biopsies anymore. I’m content to read my knee, shoulder, elbow, wrist, hip, ankle, and spine mris in peace :)
Even my simple urology plumber brain could probably figure it out.

MSK fellowship? That dark room certainly is quiet haha
 

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Meanwhile, until Taylor is cleared to play again, the Chargers backup quarterback is

Easton Stick
Apologies, I need to do something light in the middle of (vague gesturing)

Easton Stick has a good chance to be the NFL's Moonlight Graham. On Sunday Herbert injured his shoulder and Stick came in, but then the Chargers took a timeout and Herbert re-entered the game before Stick took a snap. Wonder if he will ever get closer to a regular-season snap.
 

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Haskins has been benched, Kyle Allen to start for Washington. Twitter is not very happy about it.
 

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Haskins has been benched, Kyle Allen to start for Washington. Twitter is not very happy about it.
Pretty funny because the Ravens game was probably his best. Completed over 70% of his passes and didn't turn the ball over against tough D. Makes absolutely no sense to bench him. Either you figure out if he can be "the guy" or you don't. If he plays well, there you go. If he doesn't, you've put yourself in position to draft one of the QBs this year.
 

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Pretty funny because the Ravens game was probably his best. Completed over 70% of his passes and didn't turn the ball over against tough D. Makes absolutely no sense to bench him. Either you figure out if he can be "the guy" or you don't. If he plays well, there you go. If he doesn't, you've put yourself in position to draft one of the QBs this year.
Yeah, to me it looks logical to give Haskins a longer leash; he has only started 11 games in his career and he hasn't been a complete disaster (although he hasn't been very good either). That being said, we are not in practice every day or in the huddle and there could be a number of factors that Washington have seen with Haskins that make them okay with making the call. Rivera did coach Allen in Carolina so he might have more confidence in him.

The other factor is that the NFC East is very bad, and if Washington is able to improve they could absolutely win the division and make the playoffs. They probably aren't patient enough to want to use this season as the Haskins experiment, I'm sure Snyder wants results. I have to assume that it is only a matter of time before Alex Smith is taking the snaps.
 

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I said this in the Jets thread, but I think Bell can still be productive because of the style of running back he is.

Miami also currently starting Myles Gaskin and scratched the corpse of Jordan Howard.
 

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Bell catching short passes would seem to provide exactly what the Chiefs need vs. Patriots-style defenses.