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Yep - that sounds like the exact internal conversation I'm having with myself. 35 minutes is too long for the multiple times a week I would want to go work on the short game. Not sure what I'm going to do yet.
Vesper is so beautiful to look at just driving past on 113. Definitely on my list of courses I wish I could play but probably won't ever. I've kicked around the idea of looking into a junior membership at a place like Nashua CC or Sky Meadow or Vesper but bet it's still stupid expensive.
 

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Vesper is so beautiful to look at just driving past on 113. Definitely on my list of courses I wish I could play but probably won't ever. I've kicked around the idea of looking into a junior membership at a place like Nashua CC or Sky Meadow or Vesper but bet it's still stupid expensive.
I have friends that are members of Vesper and love it. I’ll join eventually - probably when my kids are old enough for me to maximize the value.
 

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Colorado got the full lockdown starting this morning. It's currently scheduled to end on 4/11 but I expect that to get extended. So far there's been no exception for golf but I'm hopeful that they realize there's it's counterproductive to shut down an industry that encourages exercise and requires 0 contact. I played yesterday. Pay by phone, range balls included and on the range. No rakes. Flags literally bolted into the hole with special inserts that made the ball not drop in. For some reason they were allowing 2 people per cart. The regulations should mandate no carts except for those who would qualify for blue flags. With those regulations I can stay further away from people than going for a walk in the park in my neighborhood. I get that it's low priority, but it's a mechanism for hundreds of thousands of people statewide to get some exercise and sunshine, both of which are important to physical and mental health.
I'm guessing there will be some push back eventually. Right now the state is doing everything it can to try to reduce contact (and here in Mass. is generally doing a very good job IMO). At some point they're going to need to think about what's actually necessary, especially when economic realities start setting in. Telling business that could otherwise operate in a low risk atmosphere that they can't operate at all during their prime season isn't going to fly. Of course, with things changing so rapidly who knows what the unexpected will be over coming weeks.

Edit: Also, for the places allowing members out there right now. 100% chance some bored fuckface calls a newspaper or the state and ruins it.
 

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My course finally shut down officially today. I was the last group to play any holes yesterday and we will be shut down until April 10 (for now).

The thing that really bothers me is that they are allowed to still do food take-out. How does that make any sense? You can't have people walking the course, but you can have people preparing food and interacting with customers??
 

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My course finally shut down officially today. I was the last group to play any holes yesterday and we will be shut down until April 10 (for now).

The thing that really bothers me is that they are allowed to still do food take-out. How does that make any sense? You can't have people walking the course, but you can have people preparing food and interacting with customers??
It doesnt make any sense at all, but I think this is a case of "don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" in terms of the shutdown order. It is pretty easy to maintain distance when golfing, especially if you are me (unless they determine that Covid-19 can be picked up from the woods, tall grass, or the drop zone for water hazards). If you ask people not to bunch up around the tees, greens, practice areas etc., they will generally comply. We usually don't start our league for another month (end of April) so we are hoping that there is some relief by then.
 
I think the ease with which you can maintain distance when golfing is more theoretical than practical. If you're playing in a foursome and on the course for four hours or more, how easy do you think it will be to stay at least 6 feet away from everyone in the group at all times, with no exceptions? I think that would be a lot harder than you think - that requires a heck of a lot of concentration, and probably a lot more than most people would be willing to devote to it. Maybe - maybe - in a twosome you might be able to keep your distance, but you'd still have to make a special effort over a long period of time to do so.
 

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I think the ease with which you can maintain distance when golfing is more theoretical than practical. If you're playing in a foursome and on the course for four hours or more, how easy do you think it will be to stay at least 6 feet away from everyone in the group at all times, with no exceptions? I think that would be a lot harder than you think - that requires a heck of a lot of concentration, and probably a lot more than most people would be willing to devote to it. Maybe - maybe - in a twosome you might be able to keep your distance, but you'd still have to make a special effort over a long period of time to do so.
This is true, but probably less contact than many of the parks, linear parks, hiking trails, grocery stores, gas stations etc that people are permitted to use where I live. In my case, I'm only golfing with my housemates so far, so no increased risk for us by being close together a few times on the course.
 

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Golf courses in MA officially closed through April 7th.

Not sure I agree with outdoor sports where people are in close contact but not exactly worth the fight right now.

If my club doesn't start waiving the monthly dining minimum soon I may write that aggressive letter I've been stewing over for years.
Get those driving shoes on :)

My course finally shut down officially today. I was the last group to play any holes yesterday and we will be shut down until April 10 (for now).

The thing that really bothers me is that they are allowed to still do food take-out. How does that make any sense? You can't have people walking the course, but you can have people preparing food and interacting with customers??
I know people that would starve to death without take out
 

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I think the ease with which you can maintain distance when golfing is more theoretical than practical. If you're playing in a foursome and on the course for four hours or more, how easy do you think it will be to stay at least 6 feet away from everyone in the group at all times, with no exceptions? I think that would be a lot harder than you think - that requires a heck of a lot of concentration, and probably a lot more than most people would be willing to devote to it. Maybe - maybe - in a twosome you might be able to keep your distance, but you'd still have to make a special effort over a long period of time to do so.
It's not theoretical. I played Sunday, Tuesday and Yesterday. It was really pretty easy. Everyone is conscious of it so it's not like you have to guard against people who don't know to keep their distance. It's actually damn near impossible walking around the park near my neighborhood since the paths aren't 12' wide. It's also highly, highly unlikely that you'd catch anything by just walking past someone for a few seconds so even were to cross paths within 3' of each other for a second or two, you're probably still safer than walking in a park.
 

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Yeah, it doesn't seem all that difficult to me with everyone being conscious about it. I guess you can get grouped up on tee boxes and greens, but at least in my experience people aren't typically huddled around in a circle for long period of time. Not touching the flagstick seems to help distancing on the green. 6 feet isn't a crazy distance to stay apart, and I'd venture that for the bulk of a round under normal circumstances players spend the vast majority of the time more than 6 feet away from anyone else (talking a regular amateur round with no caddies). Eliminate shared carts, remove the bunker rakes, ball washers and don't have anyone touch the flag stick and I think it'd be about the same as going for a walk. Have to be careful about doing things like picking up a wedge from the last guy putting out but other than that I think it is very doable. I don't know why someone can't play golf but could instead huddle around a takeout window at a grill or bar. Seems golf is far safer than that.
 

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Courses are allowed to have maintenance crew keeping up the course, and I'm hearing that some private courses are letting members walk on and still play under the honor system with no transactions/pro shop interaction. Interesting approach if so. This includes a course nearby where a good buddy of mine is a member too. Gonna try to get out there for a round, unless they've changed course since I talked to him last night.

I mentioned this earlier but I played Sterling CC last weekend as a prospective member, got a chance to check out the track. Interesting layout, seemed really nice, but not a track I'd want to play all the time. Had a very Shaker Hills vibe, it was somewhere I'd love to play as a guest but not be my home course. The facilities are all brand new and gorgeous though, and if I lived a little closer I'd certainly consider it.

On the update with The International, an email came out yesterday reversing course and blaming everything on the pandemic (in direct contradiction to what they told their employees last week), but clearly stating they plan to open this season. I'm guessing they either found a buyer/investor or they are banking on a loan from the stimulus package. Regardless, the communication has been awful and created more stress and confusion on its own.

Holding out hope I get at least one more go at the Oaks. I need to ace the 13th hole once in my life.
after trading messages with a couple people who were on the advisory committee......they ain’t reopening
 
It's not theoretical. I played Sunday, Tuesday and Yesterday. It was really pretty easy.
Yeah, it doesn't seem all that difficult to me with everyone being conscious about it.
I'm just sharing what I saw over the past week in my two rounds on the course. Perhaps it's easy for you and me to consciously keep our distance, and maybe where you guys are in America there are enough golfers conscious of what's going on in the world to both keep their distance and act as vigilantes to those golfers who aren't. But this isn't what I saw on my course in Scotland, and I have a low enough opinion of humanity in general right now that I think it's probably better to be safe than sorry.
 

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There are a few courses here in Co that are staying open! The statewide SIP order allows exclusions for outdoor exercise which apparently includes golf. I'm pretty happy with this development. Walking only, spaced out tee times, no rakes, cup inserts, no ball washers, pay by phone, no range balls. To go food/drink with self swipe credit card only. There's no reason to be within 6 feet of anyone and no reason to touch anything touched by anyone else.
 

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Playing my last 18 tomorrow before the stay-at-home order. Can't be that upset getting 6 rounds in before April -- don't think I got any last year.

Btw ebay auctions are cheap RN, I'm stocking up and building a backup bag
 

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Playing my last 18 tomorrow before the stay-at-home order. Can't be that upset getting 6 rounds in before April -- don't think I got any last year.

Btw ebay auctions are cheap RN, I'm stocking up and building a backup bag
Maybe golf will get exempted for you too.
 

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It's strange here. There's no expressed exemption from the governor or local authorities but the course I'm playing tomorrow is a county-owned course whose website says they were given a decision allowing them to be open. Another course says that their attorneys interpret the order to include golf in the exercise exception and don't believe it will get challenged by the state AG. Strange times indeed.