I think the luxury tax is a matter of setting up a run for contention. Aren't they better breaching the limit more into tatum/brown prime?
Not many had brown performing like he is this season.
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Not many had brown performing like he is this season.
Thanks for doing that. One thing to remember is that not only didn't the Cs want Myles Turner, apparently no one else around the NBA who could take him would give up much value for him either.
Yes, agree with this.
Of course, the same could be said for Tristan Thompson and Jeff Teague.
Yeah, with Murray out it was a total one-man show, especially down the stretch. Michael Porter Jr was atrocious; Haliburton, Fox, and Harry Barnes were stellar.
I'd like to see Jokic win the MVP, but I don't think his team is going to be good enough. Barnes is having a great season.
“Little shit” = 6 rebounds, 15 assists, 6 steals, 4 blocks.
Would be nice if he could score, too, but that $22M could not be used on anyone else. Are you worried about Draymond’s use of a spot on the 15-man roster, or about Joe Lacob’s wallet?
It's not my money, so I agree it's absolutely whatever. However, they gave up 134 and lost while he's averaging 5 points a game. Is he above criticism since he yells a lot? I wouldn't want to be on the hook for Smart making $22M a year either. I'd love to have a guy like that on my team. I just don't know if he's worth that money. $27M/year in 4 years...
Definitely not above criticism — just noting that his $22M salary is not particularly relevant. I also don’t think scoring volume is a very good measure of value for a defensive ace. Bill Russell averaged 12.8 pts per 36 minutes over his career. Rodman 8.3. Ben Wallace 7.0.
I’m more concerned with his efficiency, turnovers, declining athleticism, and inconsistent energy than I am with his low scoring volume (or his yelling, lol). But I’d still much rather have him at $22M than an empty roster spot with no extra money to spend.
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That's totally fair. I can appreciate the self awareness to not shoot anymore if he's simply not able to hit shots, but man that's a lot of money to do everything other than score in today's game. It's going to be interesting to see how it works out over the next few years.
Yep. It’s remarkable though how different Draymond and Rondo are/were.
Holy crap the Celtics were 25-2 at that point and were in the midst of a 19 game winning streak. I had forgotten how dominant they were during the first half of the 2008-2009 season. If It weren’t for Garnett’s injury that team would have won another title.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/200812190BOS.html
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Steph now averaging 31.4 pts per 36 on .649 true shooting on the season. Leads the league in threes made and points scored. Tends to heat up in the latter halves of seasons, too.
Draymond's main value is that he has excellent chemistry with Curry as a screener and as someone that knows how to find him coming off screens. It's not a coincidence Draymond had 15 assists in a game where Curry made a bunch of threes. Still, that seems like a replaceable role and that given time a cheaper player like Kyle Anderson could provide similar value.
He has been wretched scoring the ball, complete non-factor shooting and eventually that will become a detriment to his passing if teams know that he is never going to shoot. Defensively he still has great hands/timing but isn't the same kind of All-Defense guy he was a few years ago. Part of that is conditioning and I know he was playing through injury earlier this year so he might round into form. He's having a really bad season, the advanced metrics hate him; negative BPM, negative VORP, Offensive Rating of 98 and a Defensive Rating of 109.
Draymond is a nice player to have when you have 2-3 great scorers around him; because he can do a lot of things to help those guy's succeed. If you are counting on him to be your best or second best player, as the Warriors have the last two seasons, he isn't going to carry the team to victory. As he gets older, he really can't afford to get worse at things like outside shooting; and he has also pretty much stopped rebounding, which is a bad sign. I don't think the Warriors are going anywhere this season despite Super Steph.
He has been wretched scoring the ball, complete non-factor shooting and eventually that will become a detriment to his passing if teams know that he is never going to shoot. Defensively he still has great hands/timing but isn't the same kind of All-Defense guy he was a few years ago. Part of that is conditioning and I know he was playing through injury earlier this year so he might round into form. He's having a really bad season, the advanced metrics hate him; negative BPM, negative VORP, Offensive Rating of 98 and a Defensive Rating of 109.
Draymond is a nice player to have when you have 2-3 great scorers around him; because he can do a lot of things to help those guy's succeed. If you are counting on him to be your best or second best player, as the Warriors have the last two seasons, he isn't going to carry the team to victory. As he gets older, he really can't afford to get worse at things like outside shooting; and he has also pretty much stopped rebounding, which is a bad sign. I don't think the Warriors are going anywhere this season despite Super Steph.
Yeah, the over/under for that team's titles was probably 2.5. Easily should have been 2, could have been 3.
1 was great but definitely could/should have been more.
Yeah, I see players (like Jackson) in almost every game who I think would help the C's off the bench.
I dunno. I'd gladly give Dennis Rodman the max. Probably the most underrated player of all time.
The BBRef poop platter of "Advanced Stats" do a poor job of capturing things like defense. Raptor has him as an excellent defender, RPM as average. Verdict may still be out.
I don't really believe in any specific advanced stat for basketball but when they all seem to say the same thing, it does give you some information.
I read/listen to a lot of NBA writers and analysts and the only non-538 people that I see talk about RAPTOR/DARKO/LEBRON are people on SoSH.
Purely hypothetical, if the C's could get Draymond Green with the TPE and not much else...
He's signed for 3 more years after this one at an average of about $25 mil per and he'll be 31 next month. This year, he's making 22.2 million.
I honestly don't know. I doubt he ages gracefully.
He's signed for 3 more years after this one at an average of about $25 mil per and he'll be 31 next month. This year, he's making 22.2 million.
I honestly don't know. I doubt he ages gracefully.
Yeah I’m extremely scared of the aging and lack of shooting. He just doesn’t quite fit imo.
What do people on here think about Julius Randle anyway? I always thought he'd be something else if he developed a 3 point shot. Looks like he has. He's still just 26. Not young, but not old by any means.
This year, he's averaging 22.6 points, 10.9 rebounds, 5.9 assists in 36.8 mpg on .476/.400/.803 shooting. He is 38/95 from 3 so far this year. The Knicks are also not that bad this year, at least in the early going. They've either been really lucky or really good at defending the 3. Like, 1st in the NBA good if you go by percentage. Opponents are hitting 31.6% of their 3s. They are hitting 52.7% of their 2s, which puts the Knicks 17th. Overall, they are 1st because of their 3 point defense. They are currently 11-13 and the 7th seed.
They acquired Derrick Rose today for DSJ and draft pick compensation so that should make them improved.
Back to Randle though, I think he's really underrated.
Edit: I also wanted the C's to get Bobby Portis this offseason and totally understand why they didn't given all the distractions. He's having a decent year in Milwaukee though.
This year, he's averaging 22.6 points, 10.9 rebounds, 5.9 assists in 36.8 mpg on .476/.400/.803 shooting. He is 38/95 from 3 so far this year. The Knicks are also not that bad this year, at least in the early going. They've either been really lucky or really good at defending the 3. Like, 1st in the NBA good if you go by percentage. Opponents are hitting 31.6% of their 3s. They are hitting 52.7% of their 2s, which puts the Knicks 17th. Overall, they are 1st because of their 3 point defense. They are currently 11-13 and the 7th seed.
They acquired Derrick Rose today for DSJ and draft pick compensation so that should make them improved.
Back to Randle though, I think he's really underrated.
Edit: I also wanted the C's to get Bobby Portis this offseason and totally understand why they didn't given all the distractions. He's having a decent year in Milwaukee though.
They've probably already done this but I just noticed they PPD the Portland/Charlotte game today. And Washington played Charlotte.
I haven't seen much of him this year, but whenever I watch him I've gotten the sense he's a classic bad team guy, putting up nice numbers for teams that are never competitive. His record is really pretty impressive in that regard - 6 seasons in the league on 3 teams, never been above .500. His teams haven't been just below average, they've been awful. His career winning percentage is .321, the equivalent of about a 26 win season for 6 straight years (I cheated a bit on this looking at his teams' record as a whole, rather than just the games in which he played). The list of players who've played for that many awful teams for that long has to be fairly short.
That said, his numbers are really nice this year. He's got an outside shot at an all star spot, deservedly so.
definitely doesn't dance like a human...what is that?
but a bad ass shot, that's for sure.