2019 Pats: In-Season Roster & Injury Discussion
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Good question. It would have to be before tomorrow's practice at the latest, yes?
You're correct, I missed that.
Last night's inactives were:
Rex Burkhead, RB
Josh Gordon, WR
Matt Lacosse, TE
Ryan Izzo, TE
Michael Bennett, DL
Patrick Chung, S
Korey Cunningham, OL
Have to think that with Watson on the team, the Patriots won't keep both Izzo and Lacosse.
The other big question is in two weeks. Who do you move to clear a spot for Harry? Edelman, Sanu, Gordon, Dorsett, Harry, Myers and Gunner are a lot of WR to carry it feels like.
The current 53 listed on Patriots.com includes both Izzo and LaCosse. Kessler is not listed any more.
I think, and this is not meant to sound snide, that the Patriots are planning to wait and see where they are in two weeks. They might have another injury that makes this moot. I guess it really comes down to the fact that part of the reason BB is so good is that he doesn't worry about this now and will deal with it when he has to. I'm sure he has a clear hierarchy in his head but I doubt he's spending any time at all worrying about a decision he might not even have to make due to injury, additional trades etc.
I would have thought it was as soon as the trade paperwork goes in. I was under the impression you can never be over the 53 and as soon as he's a Patriot he's a Patriot. Maybe I'm wrong about that.
They definitely need to have cap space when the trade paperwork makes it to NY or else the trade is void. And they don't currently have the cap space. So there were other moving parts here anyway. Or the trade hasn't actually been made yet.
(If Atlanta moved some of his salary to bonus then so long as they did that before the trade I think it's ok.)
Makes sense. If they get the Falcons to convert all eligible money as part of the deal, it gets much sweeter.
The Falcons are really cap strapped too, though, and I am skeptical whether they would agree to take on $3m as part of the deal. A second actually seems a bit high, though, for Sanu, and so maybe it does come with some cap relief. Otherwise, the Patriots need to do another cap related move -- and it will have to be a pretty significant one.
The Falcons are really cap strapped too, though, and I am skeptical whether they would agree to take on $3m as part of the deal. A second actually seems a bit high, though, for Sanu, and so maybe it does come with some cap relief. Otherwise, the Patriots need to do another cap related move -- and it will have to be a pretty significant one.
Fuckhead? JFC Hillel, show us on the doll where he touched you.
Here's a hot take: Richards played fine on ST this year when brought back. I'm happy about the upgrade to Bethel so cutting him makes sense, but people really need to get over Richards having been here. This year on special teams he was fine.
It wasn't Richards' fault that A) BB drafted him in the 2nd round, way too early; B) Jon Jones got hurt in the playoffs; C) Chung got hurt in the Super Bowl; D) Butler did whatever it was he did; and E) BB / Fat Matt put him on the field in the Super Bowl. He sucks as a defensive player but it took a lot of bad circumstances for him to even be put in that position, and even then, he probably shouldn't have been put in that position.
He didn’t do his job. The guy is a safety so asking him to do safety things wasn’t that unreasonable. He was just a really, really awful player and I’m glad he’s gone. Nobody cares about ST Richards and Ed’s comment clearly wasn’t referring to his performance on ST.
Richards was only targetted twice in that SB. Yes, one of them was for a very long gain where he got beat on a wheel route and then missed the tackle, but then 4 other guys missed tackles on that play as well and it went all the way down to the 4 or whatever. So he didn't play well but neither did anyone else.
I'm tired of the Richards talk. He was re-signed and people acted like he had personally broken into their homes, stolen their PS4 and made sweet love to their wives. The Pats are defending SB champions and are 7-0. Enough.
EDIT: Jesus. Maybe Magary is right after all. Christ on a cracker.
I'm tired of the Richards talk. He was re-signed and people acted like he had personally broken into their homes, stolen their PS4 and made sweet love to their wives. The Pats are defending SB champions and are 7-0. Enough.
EDIT: Jesus. Maybe Magary is right after all. Christ on a cracker.
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I’m still more bummed that Marquis Flowers was on the field playing meaningful defensive snaps in that game. That is if getting toasted in coverage can be described as “meaningful.”
James Harrison's corpse was playing meaningful downs in the Super Bowl. The entire defense was hot garbage that whole game.
He was awful. The coaching staff should have known this. It is similar to blaming Chris Harper for the punt muff in Denver. Shouldn’t have been placed in a position to fail.
Agreed but why are we all of a sudden expecting sports fans to be rational? If someone wants to hate on a crappy player like Richards, Cyrus Jones, or whoever, it doesn’t bother me one bit. And the guy is gone now so it’s not like there will be any more Richards posts unless he’s somehow brought back.
Nobody is blaming the entire SB on him or anything. It’s merely calling a shitty player shitty.
Sanu and Bethel in, Richards and Tomlinson out. Upgraded 2 spots on the 53. Also gives me hope that at least 1 of Izzo or LaCosse will be back this week.
They had to move someone, and it might as well be the blocking TE who seemed to be the whammee more often than the whammer on Monday's wham plays.
Is there a record for most tight ends in a season?
There's tasteful joke to be made in here somewhere, but I'm not the man for the job.
Tomlinson --> Sanu is a major offensive upgrade
Richards --> Bethel is a major special teams upgrade
All their problems are not yet solved, but these two moves ought to make the team significantly better.
Richards --> Bethel is a major special teams upgrade
All their problems are not yet solved, but these two moves ought to make the team significantly better.
Do they get back 10/11ths of the pro-rated Tomlinson salary on the cap or is that gone? I think it would be about $400,000.
Not really. They didn't have to cut anyone with high salary to make room so it will be some sort of small transaction with a contract. Someone brought up the possibility of the Falcons paying the rest of Sanu's contract in exchange for a higher pick.
Just saw this:
View: https://twitter.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1187027722511572998
So, $3.8m and per Miguel Pats had $2.9m available. A million seems like a large enough number that we'd hear about it. But maybe the other small moves, in concert, got them there.
Yeah, that's a useless tweet from Jeremy Fowler. He either doesn't know how the cap works or is withholding related info that makes his statement true.
Per Spotrac his cap hit this year is $3.779m---for remainder of season it's $2.2m. Apparently he fits under current cap.
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That's not what Miguel has. Miguel has Sanu's 2019 salary at $6.25M to start the season. Thus the Pats take over 9/17 of that which is about $3.3M. According to Miguel, players get 17 paychecks, one for each game, plus the bye. So ATL paid 8 of those 17, leaving the Pats with 9.
Yeah, I guess I was looking at the numbers and not noticing the $3.7 was already pro-rated. I really should pay attention in work meetings and not post.
OverTheCap has his full 2019 salary as $6.0M even, and I guess there must be $250k in workout or roster bonuses. Most places have the pro-rated remaining 2019 cap hit at around $3.5M. So Miguel appears at least directionally correct, and you'd bet on him to be precisely correct.
This article explores some possible Patriots cap machinations.
This article explores some possible Patriots cap machinations.
Bennett with a really weird press conference today. Just trade him at this point.
View: https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1187094440206311424
View: https://twitter.com/MikeReiss/status/1187094440206311424
Gordon ended up not practicing and Shaq Mason joins the walking wounded.
View: https://twitter.com/RyanHannable/status/1187100692059688962
View: https://twitter.com/RyanHannable/status/1187100692059688962