2019 NFL Playoff Game Thread: NFCCG

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I see —gate in a football thread and I think Patriots. Could you change the thread title to “non-Patriots something something?
a. The thread title doesn't have -gate in it
2. he clearly typed "#socalgate." I would think any Californian would understand that
 

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The Rams lost 2 previous games that Vinovich reffed. Talk about a non-story.
The tinfoil hatting here is that the four members of the crew, not Vinovich, who were closes to the call are from SoCal
 

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I see you haven't read the article.
I did

Those same four officials -- all with long ties to Southern California -- were the ones most responsible for the non-call on Rams cornerback Nickell Robey-Coleman's early, helmet-to-helmet hit on Saints wide receiver Tommylee Lewisthat was widely viewed as pass interference. The league admitted to the Saints that it "f---ed up the call," according to sources.
Did you?
 

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I did. He was literally the first official mentioned:

Referee Bill Vinovich, who led the game's officiating crew, lives in Newport Beach, California. Down judge Patrick Turner, whose primary responsibility was to follow Lewis on the blown call from start to finish, lives in Lakewood, California, in Los Angeles County.

Side judge Gary Cavaletto, whose job was to initially watch outside receiver Dan Arnold before shifting his focus once the ball was thrown to Lewis, lives in Santa Barbara, California. Back judge Todd Prukop, who was stationed in the end zone as an extra set of eyes on the controversial play, lives in Mission Viejo, California.
 

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You're an idiot. Literally the first official mentioned:

Referee Bill Vinovich, who led the game's officiating crew, lives in Newport Beach, California.
And he said he didn't see it, so they go onto the other three ... your original point was that since Vinovich had referreed two Rams losses, it was a non-story.

He wasn't involved with the call, it was the other three
 

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The tinfoil hatting here is that the four members of the crew, not Vinovich, who were closes to the call are from SoCal
And, to think, those same guys didn't call the facemask against Goff in preparation of blowing the call against the Saints. To give them cover.

Next level planning by the refs. I am impressed.
 

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And, to think, those same guys didn't call the facemask against Goff in preparation of blowing the call against the Saints. To give them cover.

Next level planning by the refs. I am impressed.
I'm telling ya ... they're crafty conspirators. Their TD signal is right out of the Nixon-Stone playbook
 

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And he said he didn't see it, so they go onto the other three ... your original point was that since Vinovich had referreed two Rams losses, it was a non-story.

He wasn't involved with the call, it was the other three
And Gary Cavaletto is on Vinovich's crew. So 2 of the 4 officials.
 

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The NFL is really bad at handling crisis management situations the past couple years. Like so bad they could be a case study in how not to handle bad PR situations.
 

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Was that Beast Mode run against New Orleans in the playoffs or to make the playoffs? That was another crazy, end of game loss in heartbreaking fashion.
It was in the playoffs a 4/5 game where the 7-9 Seahawks hosted a playoff game to great outrage. At the time of the run, the score was 34-30 Seahawks with less than 4 minutes to go, so it really just iced the game (although the Saints came back down and scored a TD with less than a minute left). I wouldn't say it's in the same category as the others. That Saints defense was just terrible.
 

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The local ties thing is interesting. It's easy to say "guys who live near a team shouldn't work that team". But then there are the guys that played in the league, most of them played for 4-5 teams. So on a midseason week with byes that's over half the NFL slate those guys and their crew would be ineligible for. Now add in a lot of guys in that situation and you have a scheduling nightmare. There are guys who grew up near a team and grew up rooting for them, and then moved at some point in their life to another NFL city. Do they mark both teams off the schedule?

The NFL didn't want to deal with it, so they told the officials: You tell us what teams you shouldn't work, and if anything pops up that is questionable, its your ass. I wonder where this ESPN story fits into that paradigm, because it does LOOK bad even if most rational people can realize there's probably nothing there.