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I don't care what he's done in Atlanta. He's better than Nugent.
In a couple of posts I was in favor of giving a sixth for him. If the Falcons were ready to release him, they surely would have taken a sixth, so it would tend to suggest that the Patriots were not interested in trading for him. Whether that means they would sign him as a FA is an interesting question.

"Are releasing" is interesting phraseology. If he has been cut, he's a FA. If he is cut tomorrow, he has to go through waivers. Not sure there is anyone out there that would claim him, but his cap is reasonable -- $750,000 -- and he is a UFA next year.

Player salaries for the week become vested on Tuesdays, but I'm not sure when on Tuesday. If the Falcons save the $44k by cutting him today before 4 pm, then he probably will be cut today and become a FA.
 

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Matt Bryant is like a Supercalifragilistic Vested Veteran to the extreme, so he won’t hit waivers. He’s a free agent.
 

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Matt Bryant is like a Supercalifragilistic Vested Veteran to the extreme, so he won’t hit waivers. He’s a free agent.
I thought even vested veterans cut after the trading deadline go through waivers. No?

Anyway -- back of envelope math of the cap cost of cutting Nugent and signing Bryant to a minimum contract ($1,015,000/year) = $133,737
 

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A few points after having caught up on this thread:
  1. Should Elway have made a play, or a bigger play, to keep Brock? I know he was pretty terrible from the minute he signed that contract with Houston, but he seemed to play very well in Denver’s system. It’s hard to imagine things would have turned out any worse.
  2. Regarding Marcus Mariota, the guy I keep thinking of as a comp is Alex Smith, even though they’re very different quarterbacks. High draft pick, lots of promise, terrible situation for multiple years, but ended up being a pretty serviceable quarterback once he found himself in a better situation.
Overall, I guess I agree with @bakahump’s premise that the league has soured on game managers. I think what complicates it is that the rules in the wake of CTE and fantasy have weighted heavily toward passing and moved away from ground and pound. So it would seem that there’s less value in these types, but it’s also made the whole quarterback premise sort of boom or bust.

It will be interesting to see what Bruce Arians does with Jameis Winston. My guess is if he can’t save Winston, nobody can.
 

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god, fuck this league. how much you want to bet they ended up faking some of the physical results? He should go take a physical at a local sports-medicine facility while his agent live-streams it on the internet. "they said my foot ligaments showed signs of strains... let's have an MRI, shall we?"
 

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He loses service time if injured? I thought he just had to report? Or is the claim that it's a non football injury?
 

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You guys all realize that this doesn't change his service time right? Because reading these posts makes it seem like you don't.

It has to do with activating him this week or waiting one more week. He has a roster exemption.
 

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Williams reportedly passed all parts of his physical until he tried on his helmet post-scalp surgery, which is considered part of his aforementioned physical. If the Redskins are unable to find the 31-year-old tackle a new helmet in the allotted time, he'll either play in pain (which is doubtful considering his despise for the organization) or be placed on the team's non-football injury list, which would keep his contract from tolling. It's a messy situation that leads to Williams' inevitable departure come hell or high water this offseason.”


Quote on Trent Williams from his rotoworld write up
https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/12684/trent-williams
 

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Williams reportedly passed all parts of his physical until he tried on his helmet post-scalp surgery, which is considered part of his aforementioned physical. If the Redskins are unable to find the 31-year-old tackle a new helmet in the allotted time, he'll either play in pain (which is doubtful considering his despise for the organization) or be placed on the team's non-football injury list, which would keep his contract from tolling. It's a messy situation that leads to Williams' inevitable departure come hell or high water this offseason.”


Quote on Trent Williams from his rotoworld write up
https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/12684/trent-williams
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The Washington football team is a dumpster fire.
 

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The R Words need to be relegated. Move them to the arena league that is folding and set up a new franchise in Oklahoma or Alabama.
 

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Any scuttlebutt on who, if anyone, is interested in putting a claim in on Gordon?
Watching Kenyan Drake last night, I'm starting to feel as though it would be surprising if he got past the Cardinals. The Cards are positioned to make out like bandits with Drake. They get to test drive a quality player and in the end, if he goes in free agency, they are likely actually to get more back as a comp pick than they gave up to get him.

Teams that are starting to get clued in on the compensatory picks are not going to let Gordon go, I wouldn't think -- and having had a front row seat to how it can work out when Drake went nuts last night puts the Cardinals in prime position to put in a claim. To be clear, I think there's a good chance he gets taken before it gets to Arizona, but I would be very surprised if it gets past Arizona.
 

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I sometimes wonder whether he will outlast Jimmy Garoppolo
 

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Any significant IR come back guys on playoff teams? For comparison purposes, as it would seem Wynn and Harry are huge for the Pats.
 

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Any significant IR come back guys on playoff teams? For comparison purposes, as it would seem Wynn and Harry are huge for the Pats.
I can't think of too many. Foles? And obviously they aren't quite in the playoff mix yet, though they actually are pretty good and could win some games.

I wonder if the Patriots value the roster spot more highly than other teams. You sort of wonder if Harry and Wynn really needed to go on IR and whether they maybe would have been ready earlier if they'd just been carried on the roster. I think many teams if they think a player is capable of returning in 8 weeks also imagine that it could be earlier, so they hold the spot for them rather than making it the full 8 weeks. Like the Chargers did with Hunter Henry. You sort of think if he had been a Patriot, maybe he goes on IR.
 

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I can't think of too many. Foles? And obviously they aren't quite in the playoff mix yet, though they actually are pretty good and could win some games.

I wonder if the Patriots value the roster spot more highly than other teams. You sort of wonder if Harry and Wynn really needed to go on IR and whether they maybe would have been ready earlier if they'd just been carried on the roster. I think many teams if they think a player is capable of returning in 8 weeks also imagine that it could be earlier, so they hold the spot for them rather than making it the full 8 weeks. Like the Chargers did with Hunter Henry. You sort of think if he had been a Patriot, maybe he goes on IR.
There have been other situations where they have carried guys for several weeks without IRing them. I kind of think they were defusing pressure around Wynn and Harry and when they return to practice, games, full reps, etc. I also think they remove temptation on both the player's and the team's part to get them on the field prematurely. Were rushing back from injury contributing factors to either Harry's or Wynn's injury? I can't say yes, but I can't rule it out, either. IR gave them plenty of time to get healthy. The difference between Wynn and Newhouse in Week 9 isn't going to sink the season, but the difference between Wynn and Newhouse in a playoff game might. I think this was a pretty unusual situation and not necessarily reflective of how they typically operate or how we'd expect them to operate moving forward.
 

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There have been other situations where they have carried guys for several weeks without IRing them. I kind of think they were defusing pressure around Wynn and Harry and when they return to practice, games, full reps, etc. I also think they remove temptation on both the player's and the team's part to get them on the field prematurely. Were rushing back from injury contributing factors to either Harry's or Wynn's injury? I can't say yes, but I can't rule it out, either. IR gave them plenty of time to get healthy. The difference between Wynn and Newhouse in Week 9 isn't going to sink the season, but the difference between Wynn and Newhouse in a playoff game might. I think this was a pretty unusual situation and not necessarily reflective of how they typically operate or how we'd expect them to operate moving forward.
Good point, and you also wonder if the schedule played into it a bit.
 

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London to the East, Dolphins to the South, Houston to the West?
Yes, or Chargers and Texans flipping and leaving Dolphins alone.

And re: scheduling:

The team in London would have to do multiple-game swings in America to address the travel issue, which would necessitate setting up a home base somewhere in the U.S. to practice. NFL schedule makers would have to be cognizant of the teams visiting London. For example, West Coast teams like the Rams and Seahawks would have to play as far east as possible the week before their London trip, and they would either practice somewhere on the East Coast or in London in the week leading up to that game.

Due to the timezone challenges, Sunday games in London would have to start at 6 p.m. or 9 p.m locally to fit in the American television windows. Monday night or Sunday night games would not be possible in London. Also, the quick turnaround nature of the playoffs could cause some scheduling gymnastics when it came to trying to get a U.S.-based team to London on short notice.
 

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I suspect we’d soon discover the playoff conundrum to be mostly irrelevant because free agents won’t sign there, draft picks will pull an Eli, and their home field advantage will be just as irrelevant at least in terms of the crowds. Not a recipe for hosting playoff games.

But the idea that a team could ever even be in position to play Oakland in Week 17, London in the WC Round, and...well, anybody in the Divisional Round, makes this completely untenable.